Glaring black female hypocrisy on IR/LGBT representation.

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Hey op you make one hell of a point with your question

It seems This is a question that no one has even thought of

But its a great point.

Issa ray comes of kinda gay to me as a matter of fact

Issa ray seems like she eats p*ssy its just sonething about her that seems masculine to me

Yet she is pushing her gayness onto black men

You are right black women want to see black men as gay but want to be under white male patriarchy

There is no real push for black women to be gay with each other

There should be more black lesbian couples in these tv shows that are coming out

Where are the black lesbian couples in media brehs?
 

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First of all, thank you for taking the time to actually read over the post and provide actual answers to the questions posed.

I’d just like to know when black women claimed control over the media? When we bring up how biracial actresses mainly represent black women in media, people want to claim it’s all the white man’s fault, but now that you aren’t paired as much with non-black women in the media, it’s black women’s fault?

I thought it would be easily implied from my point about white male patriarchal hegemony that white males run the show behind the scenes when it comes to film, not black women. But, if I wasn't clear enough then, then let me say it now: The media, in all of it's forms are, by and large, are produced, funded, distributed, screened, and showcased by people, companies, and theaters owned by white men.

HOWEVER, I do have a gripe with black women, in their lack of integrity in how they choose to selectively endorse certain types of lgbt and IR relationships in film- Namely black male homosexuality and black female interracial heterosexuality, them seeming to be okay with & even ENDORSING white male patriarchal hegemony given that they're included in it, and how they use these issues of IR & lgbt representation in media as an avenue to publicly shame and attack black men. Thus, I see it fit to call them out to task on their hypocrisies as well. I only wish I had a bigger medium to do so on.

That being said:

1. Of course, all types of black women should be represented. Like you said, we aren’t represented unless we’re on a white man’s arm. Even though I couldn’t really get into “She’s Gotta Have It”, I find it interesting how she has a female lover, too. I personally would support a show based on black female lovers, especially if it has a good plot and interesting characters.


I see. Great.

I wonder why we don't see more black women pushing for black female lgbt roles, anywhere near as hard as they push for black male lgbt, when they're so underrepresented, especially since they claim, as you stated, to want to see more BLACK WOMEN in the media- So, why are they so focused on black male lgbt? Any thoughts on that?

2. I think it came out of left-field, so yes. It reinforces the white male patriarchal hegemony because white men are the ones backing these shows, advertisements, and commercials, so they’re obviously going to portray themselves as the ideal mate. Shonda Rhimes and Amma Asante are the only two black women I can think of that really push IR in film and they develop characters in interracial couplings for both genders, not just BWWM pairings. Grey’s Anatomy and A United Kingdom, to be specific.

Great.

But, here's another instance where you differ from the majority(or at least most vocal) of black women, who seem to cheer, celebrate, and endorse black female heterosexual interracial pairings on screen. To paraphrase, they seem to look it as affirming black female attractiveness, desirability, and femininity to have men of other races, particularly white men, shown perusing and/or having relationships with them. I take it they wouldn't view black female lgbt as satisfying the same purpose. They may even view black lesbianism as detrimental to it.

Actress Nia Long herself did so in an interview on her role on The Best Man Holiday.
Nia Long Says She Wanted A White Love Interest In “The Best Man Holiday” And It’s No Disrespect To Black Men

Why do you think that is? I can't think of a black male actor who specifically requested a white female love interest, despite the pairing being FAR under represented in film, especially MAJOR film productions.

3. No, y’all can push for black men and non-black women pairings if that’s what you want to see on your screens. I push for proper representation of black women, not IR dating.

Cool, so you see black male heterosexual IR under representation as black men's issue to deal with then, correct? Just so we're clear.

So, then, by the same token you(black women) should leave the issue of black male homosexual representation up to black men as well, and stop butting your noses in trying to shame us for supposedly not accepting it(which makes no sense seeing as it's over represented when compared to their pop size), and trying to shove it down our throats in whatever way you or the white media please, when you have the issue of black female lgbt under representation to deal with, correct?

And if we do push for more black male heterosexual IRRs you wont boycott it like ya'll did with the Red Tails movie, correct?
 
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yea even wit transgenders :dame:

how often u see the media promoting female to male??

its usually the male to female ones out in front...

Yeah, I thought about that too after I made the post.

Female to male transgenderism is another conveniently neglected representation by these anti-bm, black female, pro-lgbt activist. I wonder why that is.
 
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i wonder why we are even "pushing" for black representation in cac media.

we have the means to create our own media - tariq proves this on a regular basis.


Oh, trust me. I was never one to tug at the jeans of mainstream hollywood, and beg them for more representation of black people/men. In fact I'd rather them NOT have them in control of the black male image in the mass media for them to malign, humiliate, & distort as they please, and then call that "diverse representation". Better for them to leave black men/boys out of their works altogether, and we focus on building our own entertainment/news media to represent us. I'll leave the mainstream begging up to black women.

I'm just tired of this issue of lgbt representation being used as a weapon for black women to attack and shame us with, while they neglect black female lgbt, and prance up & down for black female heterosexual interracialism. It's almost as if they want us, black men solely, to shoulder the burden of lgbt representation, while they enjoy the table scraps of white male patriarchal hegemony via heterosexual IR black female representation, and they need to be called out on it.
 
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heterosexual black men and heterosexual black women are a threat to white power when we're on the same page. the white men who own and control the media know what they're doing. blavity, afropunk, madame noir etc they know what they're doing.

what i can't figure out is how short sighted sisters are about this. it's all going to backfire in so many different ways idk how anyone can't see whats going on

even in that thread last week about BW cosigning bisexual black men i thought brehs like @Poitier was kinda reaching but then you see something like that Issa Rae deal with HBO and the reaction is crazy. idk how we're going to reverse this
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