GIVE A TEAM A RING N FEED EM 4 A YEAR, GIVE EM A DYNASTY N FEED EM 4 A LIFETIME: 2021 LAKERS THREAD

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We barely got anyone that can put the ball on the floor and create their own shot but we ready to trade away THT n nem? Or trade the one of the last insurance policies we got in Kieff for inexperienced Mo or flat out retarded Whiteside? Y’all want Bron and Dennis’ knees to turn into talcum powder? :russ:

Man, if Bamba ain’t coming over for some cheap shyt like a pick then gtfoh. If they want more they gon need to add a shooter.


Some folks just wanna trade to make a trade.
 

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Yeah I think Bamba would flourish under Vogel and learning from Gasol.


I would give up Matthews and THT in a second for him.

THT has the potential to be a solid wing defender (7'1" wingspan). To me thats more important than a spot minutes 5. Bamba has been in the league 3 years and what exactly has he shown you? And he's yet another terrible ft shooter


I think the "we need a 5 :sadcam:" is starting to get a bit overstated in here. Lakers have the Number 1 defense in the league. Closing time in the playoffs AD will be at the 5 with Bron and Trez/Keiff on the court. Last year Dwight and McGee combined for 24mpg in the playoffs and were out for numerous games due to matchups. None of the real contending teams are paint scoring machines. You need people that can slow down wings and point guards. Only way you should make a serious move for a 5 is if you dont think AD is coming back this season, or wont be himself. Otherwise, just grab someone off the scrap heap that can play 8-10 minutes.

Paint scoring 2020-2021

1 Memphis 55.4
2 Cleveland 54.2
3 Sacramento 53.6
4 Indiana 52.9
5 New Orleans52.0
6 LA Lakers 51.7
7 Chicago 49.8
8 Minnesota 48.5
9 Milwaukee 48.3
10 Denver 48.1

11 Atlanta 47.8
12 Washington 47.5
13 Brooklyn 47.4
14 Houston 47.2
15 Philadelphia 46.9
16 New York 46.9
17 Charlotte 46.8
18 Golden State 46.2
19 Boston 46.0
20 Okla City 45.9
21 Detroit 45.4
22 San Antonio 44.8
23 Dallas 44.7
24 Phoenix 44.4
25 Utah 44.0
26 Miami 43.1
27 LA Clippers 42.6
28 Toronto 42.1
29 Orlando 40.2
30 Portland 37.2
 

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THT has the potential to be a solid wing defender (7'1" wingspan). To me thats more important than a spot minutes 5. Bamba has been in the league 3 years and what exactly has he shown you? And he's yet another terrible ft shooter


I think the "we need a 5 :sadcam:" is starting to get a bit overstated in here. Lakers have the Number 1 defense in the league. Closing time in the playoffs AD will be at the 5 with Bron and Trez/Keiff on the court. Last year Dwight and McGee combined for 24mpg in the playoffs and were out for numerous games due to matchups. None of the real contending teams are paint scoring machines. You need people that can slow down wings and point guards. Only way you should make a serious move for a 5 is if you dont think AD is coming back this season, or wont be himself. Otherwise, just grab someone off the scrap heap that can play 8-10 minutes.

Paint scoring 2020-2021

1 Memphis 55.4
2 Cleveland 54.2
3 Sacramento 53.6
4 Indiana 52.9
5 New Orleans52.0
6 LA Lakers 51.7
7 Chicago 49.8
8 Minnesota 48.5
9 Milwaukee 48.3
10 Denver 48.1

11 Atlanta 47.8
12 Washington 47.5
13 Brooklyn 47.4
14 Houston 47.2
15 Philadelphia 46.9
16 New York 46.9
17 Charlotte 46.8
18 Golden State 46.2
19 Boston 46.0
20 Okla City 45.9
21 Detroit 45.4
22 San Antonio 44.8
23 Dallas 44.7
24 Phoenix 44.4
25 Utah 44.0
26 Miami 43.1
27 LA Clippers 42.6
28 Toronto 42.1
29 Orlando 40.2
30 Portland 37.2




Stats are an illusion this season because of how the schedule is structured. There is a very low chance that the Lakers can win a championship with the production that they are currently getting from the 5. It's especially unlikely given the cloud of AD's injury.
 

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We're facing a huge luxury tax next season. :ohhh:

Keeping these Lakers together won't be cheap


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A championship team is usually an expensive one. In 2019, the Toronto Raptors paid $25 million in luxury tax. In 2018, the Golden State Warriors paid $32 million. When the Cleveland Cavaliers won it all in 2016, their bill was $54 million.

But the Los Angeles Lakers achieved a somewhat rare feat last season: They won the NBA title without paying the luxury tax.

And that's good, because trying to turn pairing LeBron James and Anthony Davis into some measure of a dynasty could get very expensive. How expensive? L.A.'s payroll and luxury tax bill could exceed a quarter of a billion dollars -- just for next season.

Free-agent-to-be Dennis Schroder became eligible to sign a contract extension on Feb. 16. And given how impactful a player he has been by easing the burden on James in the backcourt, the Lakers are incentivized to retain Schroder -- a guard they can't replace via free agency.

Schroder turned down a preseason offer from the Lakers, with the two sides expected to discuss again now, sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski in December. But as they enter into those talks, the Lakers have to keep an eye on the books, because the numbers could eventually force some difficult decisions.


Kentavious Caldwell-Pope -- plus the signing of Montrezl Harrell -- pushed the Lakers into the luxury tax for this season and for the first time since the 2013-14 campaign. Next year will see extensions signed by James and Kyle Kuzma hit their cap sheet.

Meanwhile, the bulk of the team's role players -- Harrell, Alex Caruso, Markieff Morris, Talen Horton-Tucker and Wesley Matthews -- can be free agents. The Lakers also still owe Luol Deng $5 million for next season, the last year of a waive-and-stretch decision made back in 2018.

The 2021 free-agent market has been stripped of many of the biggest names, as Giannis Antetokounmpo, Paul George, Rudy Gobert and James elected to sign extensions to stay with their current teams. But there still could be 10 teams with $20 million or more in cap space and another handful with more than $10 million.

That means the Lakers could have competition to keep their role players. As an athletic guard who can defend, unrestricted free agent Caruso will have suitors. League executives think he could draw interest at the full midlevel exception range, which is $9.5 million next season. (Caruso currently earns $2.7 million.)

Horton-Tucker is another player who could have an intriguing free agency next summer. He is averaging just 6.7 points and 2.5 assists, but teams are watching him with interest.

Jeremy Lin and Tyler Johnson have been included in such deals in the past.

In this case, a team that wants to maximize pressure on the Lakers could offer Horton-Tucker a deal in the range of four years and $60 million -- with the last two years coming in at $19.7 million and $20.7 million, respectively.

Then there's Harrell, who can opt out of his deal and be paid as much as $11.5 million by the Lakers if they opt to re-sign him. With Marc Gasol on the tail end of his career and few ways of replacing Harrell's production in free agency, keeping Harrell also could be a priority.


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Which brings back the decision sitting on Lakers general manager Rob Pelinka's desk at the moment: what to do with Schroder.

Last offseason, starter-quality combo guards such as Schroder did well in free agency. Bogdan Bogdanovic landed a four-year, $72 million deal from the Atlanta Hawks. Fred VanVleet got four years and $85 million from the Raptors. Two years ago, the San Antonio Spurs gave Dejounte Murray a four-year deal worth $64 million guaranteed, which might be the low end of a Schroder negotiation.

Keeping Caruso, Horton-Tucker, Schroder and Harrell at their potential market values could push the Lakers' payroll to $150 million. (Gasol's $2.7 million salary is already guaranteed.) That's without filling out the roster with other veterans or retaining Morris or Matthews.

Once that is done, even with just minimum salaries, the Lakers could be looking at a base payroll of around $170 million to keep the team intact. Add in more than $100 million in luxury taxes and their commitments for next season would land between $250 million and $270 million.

The Lakers are a deep-pocketed organization. They have the largest local television deal in the league, which pays in the range of $200 million annually. Spending hasn't been an issue in the past. Since the luxury tax began in the 2002-03 season, the Buss family has green-lighted more than $120 million in total for exceeding the salary-cap apron.

These numbers, though, are a new threshold that also will come off two years of losses from the COVID-19 pandemic.

No one should feel bad; the Lakers are one of the richest and most valuable franchises in the world. Their two future Hall of Famers are locked into deals.

But as the Lakers enter into a period when they have to make contractual decisions on the bulk of their team, there could be a tough decision or two at hand.

ESPN Front Office Insider Bobby Marks contributed to this story.

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ThT looked terrible as a ball handler you could easily replace what he brings with Caruso or some other guy. The only positive I’ve seen with THT is his ability to finish at the rim. I would easily trade him for Bamba.

Lol, you say that as if we have that kinda production in abundance. THT isn’t supposed to be a ball handler he’s a scoring punch off the bench. Of course he has to improve but the only other players that are as good at getting to the rim are Bron and Dennis. Caruso not doin that, LCP is back to woat status, Kuz is still up and down and his handles aren’t great either. So unless our 3pt shooting has reached a point where we don’t need slashing threats I don’t see how dealing THT makes sense at all right now.

If anything, we should see what we’ve got in Jones before we start committing to trades.
 

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Stats are an illusion this season because of how the schedule is structured. There is a very low chance that the Lakers can win a championship with the production that they are currently getting from the 5. It's especially unlikely given the cloud of AD's injury.
I guess my thinking is do you think Bamba is that guy though? Are you seeing him impact the game in a playoff series more than THT? You need bodies to throw at Kawhi, PG, Murray, KD, Harden, Kyrie, Lillard, Steph, Booker.

Plus its Jones SZN :troll:

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I’m sayin tho, as raw as THT still is its very apparent that we’ve got a gem on our hands. He has the chance to develop into anything from a very solid contributor to an all star. His defensive potential is especially interesting imo. Offensively he just needs more experience and needs to get more under control and get out the tunnel vision shyt.

It’s cool to get Bamba to shore things up but with Jones already showing a spark it shows that we don’t have to act desperate and overpay. What we really need is a shooter. And depending on if we’re just in a mid season slump we might not even need a shooter.
 

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LA needs to give ATL a call and inquire about the availability of C.Capela.I know the chances of them trading clint is low, but you never know. Atlanta just fired their HC, and J.Collins is going to be looking for near max money this offseason.
 

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LA needs to give ATL a call and inquire about the availability of C.Capela.I know the chances of them trading clint is low, but you never know. Atlanta just fired their HC, and J.Collins is going to be looking for near max money this offseason.


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