Gilbert Arenas | All The Smoke Interview - UPDATE: Kwame Brown starts his own Podcast!

[AnonymityX1000]

I get it...but look at the first page of The Coliseum

Most threads are talking about ancillary issues.

and I would bet most people here are more serious than the avg sports fan.

Part of the genius of boxers like Ali and Mayweather...
...they understood what the game really was about.

And he's doing the same in kind just x 10 more funny and personal. It's just on youtube where anyone can ignore it if you have no interest. They got to eat it or apologize if they want it to stop.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Imo.. SAS was super cool with Kobe. Now I'm not saying Kobe was telling SAS to shyt on Kwame in public, but I am saying SAS hated that Kobe's prime was being wasted with guys like Kwame. Kobe was saying this about Kwame. He basically said what Gil said about his hands.

“I got to say, it was tough doing it that year. I was playing with guys, God bless them — God bless them — but Kwame Brown. Smush Parker. We had one game right before…by the way, what I say here, I say directly to them, see what I’m saying, I don’t talk behind people’s back. Things that I say to you, I’m comfortable saying this to them and I’ve said this to them...But like, the game before we traded for Pau, were playing Detroit and I had like 40 points towards the end of the game. This is back when Detroit had Rasheed [Wallace], Chauncey [Billups] and those guys, so we had no business being in the game. So down the stretch of the game, they put in a box and one. So I’m surrounded by these players, Detroit players, and Kwame is under the basket, all by himself. Literally, like all by himself. So I pass him the ball, he bobbled it and it goes out of bounds.

“So we go back to the timeout and I’m [upset], right? He goes, ‘I was wide open.’ ‘Yeah, I know.’ This is how I’m talking to him, like, during the game. I said, ‘You’re going to be open again, Kwame, because Rasheed is just totally ignoring you.’ He said, ‘Well, if I’m open don’t throw it to me.’ I was like, ‘Huh?’ He said, ‘Don’t throw it to me.’ I said, ‘Why not?’ He said, well, ‘I’m nervous. If I catch it and they foul me, I won’t make the free throws.’ I said, ‘Hell no!’

“I go to Phil [Jackson], I say, ‘Hey Phil, take him out of the game.’ He’s like, ‘Nah, let him figure it out.’ So, we lose the game, I go the locker room, I’m steaming. Steaming. I’m furious. Then, finally I get a call, they said, ‘You know what, we got something that’s happening with Pau.’ I was like, ‘Alright. Cool.’…That’s what I had to deal with the whole year.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...e-brown-story/2011/10/07/gIQAgsdnSL_blog.html

Now tbf Kwame responded years later about it. However, the real venom Kwame had received was from his Laker days. Yes, people were disappointed in his struggles with Jordan. However, he later got traded for Caron Butler. Thats when those expectations really hit. I got no problem with Kwame going at SAS. However, he's not being accurate when he keeps saying I was an 18 year old this and that. They buried you once you struggled in the biggest basketall market in sports.

 

[42 Monks]

what do you want SA & Skip to talk about everyday?

Im with Kwame on nearly everything except his views on them.

Pro sports needs those talking heads...its part of the ecosystem.

w/o the daily gossip youre left with only numbers and facts...it would be like PBS for sports.

People dont want to watch that...they want to talk about the side stories.

Its the same reason they were trying to get SA into MMA even though he doesnt know anything about it..
...they arent bringing in the same revenue as the major sports because nobody cares about it outside of the main fights.
Look at the biggest draws in mma...people who make for good headlines.

The exact reason Mayweather had to turn into Money May...the character sells the event

don't remember stuart scott ever talking shyt on people like those dudes did - and he basically laid the foundation for ESPN's style of commentary and coverage

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Now that I think about the people who went at Kwame the hardest at 19 probably was PTI (Wilbon/Kornheiser)

They wanted Jordan to draft Shane Battier. Then Wilbon was on the trade for Elton Brand talk (from Jordan most likely with hindsight)

Once he struggled early they kept bringing up Shane Battier.

I remember that draft. I was a Jordan stan and wanted him to draft Eddie Griffin (R.I.P) that year.

 

[Black Lightning]

"It's okay for you to be a man.
America don't want you to be a man.
Look at what boys are going through in schools.
Boys are not even learning
Black boys are reading at a 4th grade reading level.
It ain't because the teachers are bad it's because they're not paying teachers decent enough wage.
I'm an athlete why did you pay me so much to entertain?
What are you trying to distract the people from?
If the kids are our next generation why ain't the focus on their education?
You would rather teach them about their gender or their identity before you teach them about coding."

 

[jilla82]

don't remember stuart scott ever talking shyt on people like those dudes did - and he basically laid the foundation for ESPN's style of commentary and coverage

that doesnt change the facts about what people gravitate to.

the consumers dictate where things go.

like...look at the quote above this post.
He ask "why did I (athletes) get paid so much"

we know the answer to that...because athletes generate billions of dollars.

Issues are starting to get confused.

 

[NatiboyB]

Now that I think about the people who went at Kwame the hardest at 19 probably was PTI (Wilbon/Kornheiser)

They wanted Jordan to draft Shane Battier. Then Wilbon was on the trade for Elton Brand talk (from Jordan most likely with hindsight)

Once he struggled early they kept bringing up Shane Battier.

I remember that draft. I was a Jordan stan and wanted him to draft Eddie Griffin (R.I.P) that year.

Exactly Eddie Griffin was seen as a future stud. Battier suffered from actually going to college and being an upperclassman he wasn’t relevant at that high in the draft. Guys were looking for potential and the next big high schooler.

eddy curry, Tyson Chandler, Kwame brown, Kendrick, diop etc. teams were after a high Schooler so bad that the bulls were willing to trade brand for any of the top 2 picks. And pau gasol was just sitting there.

 

[42 Monks]

that doesnt change the facts about what people gravitate to.

the consumers dictate where things go.

no it actually does the growth those guys brought didn't only help the league but coverage as a whole in all sports

stu scott, dan, those other second generation faces on ESPN literally brought ESPN up from being some struggling broadcast to the brand they are today. those dudes made sports entertainment and created the formats ESPN been rocking with for decades now

this other shyt ESPN been doing since? a big reason why they've been bleeding money. they can't market their own product well anymore and its a problem because they're actually on the TV deals now instead of just complimentary. the consumer not fukkin with ESPN has kinda been a theme hence all these layoffs and production restructures

 

[Fortunate Lee]

His best one yet, no cussing, etc..just facts



that part about Owens tho

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Exactly Eddie Griffin was seen as a future stud. Battier suffered from actually going to college and being an upperclassman he wasn’t relevant at that high in the draft. Guys were looking for potential and the next big high schooler.

eddy curry, Tyson Chandler, Kwame brown, Kendrick, diop etc. teams were after a high Schooler so bad that the bulls were willing to trade brand for any of the top 2 picks. And pau gasol was just sitting there.

Yep. Pau turned out to be the goldmine that year. Ironic that they were traded for each other years later. So Pau's success (already having post moves, great hands) did apply pressure to Kwame his rookie year. However, yea after Miles success his rookie year everyone was back on the HS hype/freshman.

The crazy thing about Kwame is that he sort of came out of nowhere. Eddie Griffn was viewed as the top college player w/potential. 6'10" shot blocker that can shoot 3s. Shane looked like the guy who would be solid, but not much upside. Eddy Curry was viewed as a lock #1 pick a year ago. I remember watching him on Preps. However, when he and Chandler faced each other thats when doubt crept in. Eddy wasnt in shape and neither were scoring like you'd hope.

That opened the door for Kwame was viewed as the guy if he gets development at Florida for a couple of years he could be the best one. He had size, quickness and was older than the normal HS player. Still his game wasnt there as I think he only avg 18 in HS. Then once Kwame started dominating in McDonald's game and workouts he passed up everyone. Diop was only averaging like 10. However, potential started getting used more for them.

That was the draft that really got the NBA ball rolling on forcing kids to go to college. It took a few years but that was the origin.

 

[BXKingPin82]

LeBron smoke!!

 

[BXKingPin82]

"Goat cheese
Peanuts
Raisins."



Im sorry.
He might be country as hell.
But he also might be from the BRONX.

 

[frush11]

See this is what I’m talking about

how you make 60+ million in your career if you’re a trash ?

How do you play over a decade of you were trash?

Why isn’t Hasheem Thabeet ,Adam Morrison ,Darko Millicic ,Derrick Williams under that pressure ? They washed out in their PRIMES.
We have nikkas who NEVER seen Kwame play for the wizards laughing and joking around about Kwame Brown because of what the media did to him for HALF HIS LIFE.


How can a nikka who played ball but didn’t even sniff the D league or overseas call Kwame trash constantly?

How can role playing ass Matt Barnes laugh and giggle about Kwame Brown when they were the same tier of player ?


Stephen Jackson laughing and giggling about him when based on NBA career earnings the league valued both damn near the same ?

If Shaq or any other nikka on that tier wanna clown...fine but THESE nikkas ?Bro c’mon.

shyt is beyond goofy

Cut it out, Kwame was not a good player. Simple as.

 

[NatiboyB]

Yep. Pau turned out to be the goldmine that year. Ironic that they were traded for each other years later. So Pau's success (already having post moves, great hands) did apply pressure to Kwame his rookie year. However, yea after Miles success his rookie year everyone was back on the HS hype/freshman.

The crazy thing about Kwame is that he sort of came out of nowhere. Eddie Griffn was viewed as the top college player w/potential. 6'10" shot blocker that can shoot 3s. Shane looked like the guy who would be solid, but not much upside. Eddy Curry was viewed as a lock #1 pick a year ago. I remember watching him on Preps. However, when he and Chandler faced each other thats when doubt crept in. Eddy wasnt in shape and neither were scoring like you'd hope.

That opened the door for Kwame was viewed as the guy if he gets development at Florida for a couple of years he could be the best one. He had size, quickness and was older than the normal HS player. Still his game wasnt there as I think he only avg 18 in HS. Then once Kwame started dominating in McDonald's game and workouts he passed up everyone. Diop was only averaging like 10. However, potential started getting used more for them.

That was the draft that really got the NBA ball rolling on forcing kids to go to college. It took a few years but that was the origin.

That’s exactly how I recall it also. Eddy curry was literally listed at the top of the draft along with Griffin just about the whole season up until the McDonald’s game time frame. Kwame came on strong and killed it during the predraft workouts. I also recall brown having a broken hand at one point. Chandler was seen as what he ended up as a future defensive star. But eddy curry was supposed to be the one. The big guy on the blocks who couldn’t be stopped. Battier was collecting college accolades but no one really cared as he was just seen as a future role player. I remember at one point even Kendrick brown was getting more talk.

like you stated this draft is what got the NBA off of the high school tip. Arguably just about all of these high schoolers were over drafted based on their sheer youth and belief in potential.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

His best one yet, no cussing, etc..just facts



that part about Owens tho

The breakdown of Fortnite and parenting is the best thing he's said yet.