GGG vs Kell Brook September 10th R.I.P Kell Brook/Chocolatito-Cuadras & JSK-Kamegai 2

[1986]

how could u hate ggg,



dudes one of hte most entertaining boxers

He does have an entertaining style of fighting, yes, but that's not the reason why I (and plenty other posters here) don't fukk with him.

I don't hate him, but I've developed a great amount of distaste for him by being an overhyped fighter who's fought nothing but bums and him being content with that didn't make it better.

All the antics when he supposedly wanted to fight Ward and then backtracking like a bytch didn't make it better.

His trainer saying its part of Canelo's memo to fight a guy like Khan only to turn around and secure a fight with Kell Shook didn't make it better.

Him having despicable people within boxing media riding his nuts and writing desperate articles about how many nachos were sold at his fights, making him to be a top 3 P4P without a resume to back it up etc etc.
I can't wait for the day when this Borat fukker gets his first L, I hope its on saturday.

 

[reservoirdogs]

He does have an entertaining style of fighting, yes, but that's not the reason why I (and plenty other posters here) don't fukk with him.

I don't hate him, but I've developed a great amount of distaste for him by being an overhyped fighter who's fought nothing but bums and him being content with that didn't make it better.

All the antics when he supposedly wanted to fight Ward and then backtracking like a bytch didn't make it better.

His trainer saying its part of Canelo's memo to fight a guy like Khan only to turn around and secure a fight with Kell Shook didn't make it better.

Him having despicable people within boxing media riding his nuts and writing desperate articles about how many nachos were sold at his fights, making him to be a top 3 P4P without a resume to back it up etc etc.

Yeah that's pretty much the problem

I also don't really like his style though cause I was always more impressed with speed, dynamism and ring IQ than about power and GOlovkin only has the latter from these, he is too mechanic and methodical for my taste.

I'm rather an exception though and I doN't hate his style. I actually understand why it is so popular and I also understand why the whole persona is popular.

1. People like KO artists/ferocious offense fighters
2. People like "people's champion" good guys and Golovkin (just like Pacquiao did) being sold like that

they especially like when the 2 appears at the same time, they like this strange duality that the guys who are such monsters inside the ring act all nice outside of it. That's also how Pac's persoa was built up.

Problem is that the dikk riding went way over the top.
You don't see boxing writers and some casuals stan fighters with easily better resumes than Golovkin the way they stan GGG.
I guess this is always the case with these "people's champion", Pac fanbase was also unbearable, and a partof them now (after May 2nd) turned into Golovkin fans. I Pac's case however at least nobody could deny that he has a resume to back up the big hype.

A large portion of his fans and plenty of media workers who dikkride Golovkin just give him a pass from ANYTHING. Other fighters are constantly shytted on and criticized for every little things but Golovkin can never be blamed...
Nothing is his fault but the opponents' who duck him, the promoters', the circumstances, etc...

Danny Garcia (28) : widely criticized fighter, has names on his resume like Matthysse, Peterson or Khan
Mayweather (39) : widely criticized fighter, has names on his resume like Pac, Canelo, Maidana, Mosley, Cotto, DLH... (I doN't have to go further)
Broner (27): widely criticized fighter, has names on his resume like Maidana and Porter
Ward (32) : gets many critics, has names on his resume like Froch, Kessler, Bika, Abraham, Dawson
Canelo (26) : everybody is at him right now, has names on his resume like May, Lara, Trout, Cotto

Golovkin (34): gets all the love in the world by the media, has names on his resume like Murray, Monroe or Geale


See the double standards? I don't even say that some of those fighters don't deserve criticism. Hell... I criticize Broner and Danny pretty much but the problem is when people give constant shyt to all these fighters from different reasons but give no criticism at all for a supposed P4P great who is 34 years old with a resume which not all that impressive.
His best win is probably Monroe or Murray but they still like to rate him in P4P top 5... How's that? Do we deal P4P places now based on someone is supposedly being ducked?

Also now the same people who slandered Canelo for the Khan fight (rightfully) now giving a pass to Golovkin for fighting Brook and call the skeptical people "haters" or "detractors".

@OC's finest

 

[DrX]

Kell about to get his fukking head knocked off

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

I have a good feeling the ref will stop the fight before kell takes a battering.

 

[firemanBk]

I have a good feeling the ref will stop the fight before kell takes a battering.

Well, the fight is in the UK. They stop fights early as fukk there. shyt, if Brook even slightly wobbles GGG at any point, all he needs to do is move his hands in GGG's general direction for a few seconds and the fight is over Joe C/Manfredo style

 

[George's Dilemma]

Yeah that's pretty much the problem

I also don't really like his style though cause I was always more impressed with speed, dynamism and ring IQ than about power and GOlovkin only has the latter from these, he is too mechanic and methodical for my taste.

I'm rather an exception though and I doN't hate his style. I actually understand why it is so popular and I also understand why the whole persona is popular.

1. People like KO artists/ferocious offense fighters
2. People like "people's champion" good guys and Golovkin (just like Pacquiao did) being sold like that

they especially like when the 2 appears at the same time, they like this strange duality that the guys who are such monsters inside the ring act all nice outside of it. That's also how Pac's persoa was built up.

Problem is that the dikk riding went way over the top.
You don't see boxing writers and some casuals stan fighters with easily better resumes than Golovkin the way they stan GGG.
I guess this is always the case with these "people's champion", Pac fanbase was also unbearable, and a partof them now (after May 2nd) turned into Golovkin fans. I Pac's case however at least nobody could deny that he has a resume to back up the big hype.

A large portion of his fans and plenty of media workers who dikkride Golovkin just give him a pass from ANYTHING. Other fighters are constantly shytted on and criticized for every little things but Golovkin can never be blamed...
Nothing is his fault but the opponents' who duck him, the promoters', the circumstances, etc...

Danny Garcia (28) : widely criticized fighter, has names on his resume like Matthysse, Peterson or Khan
Mayweather (39) : widely criticized fighter, has names on his resume like Pac, Canelo, Maidana, Mosley, Cotto, DLH... (I doN't have to go further)
Broner (27): widely criticized fighter, has names on his resume like Maidana and Porter
Ward (32) : gets many critics, has names on his resume like Froch, Kessler, Bika, Abraham, Dawson
Canelo (26) : everybody is at him right now, has names on his resume like May, Lara, Trout, Cotto

Golovkin (34): gets all the love in the world by the media, has names on his resume like Murray, Monroe or Geale


See the double standards? I don't even say that some of those fighters don't deserve criticism. Hell... I criticize Broner and Danny pretty much but the problem is when people give constant shyt to all these fighters from different reasons but give no criticism at all for a supposed P4P great who is 34 years old with a resume which not all that impressive.
His best win is probably Monroe or Murray but they still like to rate him in P4P top 5... How's that? Do we deal P4P places now based on someone is supposedly being ducked?

Also now the same people who slandered Canelo for the Khan fight (rightfully) now giving a pass to Golovkin for fighting Brook and call the skeptical people "haters" or "detractors".

@OC's finest

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

GGG never seen hand speed like this in his life

 

[The axe murderer]

Yeah that's pretty much the problem

I also don't really like his style though cause I was always more impressed with speed, dynamism and ring IQ than about power and GOlovkin only has the latter from these, he is too mechanic and methodical for my taste.

I'm rather an exception though and I doN't hate his style. I actually understand why it is so popular and I also understand why the whole persona is popular.

1. People like KO artists/ferocious offense fighters
2. People like "people's champion" good guys and Golovkin (just like Pacquiao did) being sold like that

they especially like when the 2 appears at the same time, they like this strange duality that the guys who are such monsters inside the ring act all nice outside of it. That's also how Pac's persoa was built up.

Problem is that the dikk riding went way over the top.
You don't see boxing writers and some casuals stan fighters with easily better resumes than Golovkin the way they stan GGG.
I guess this is always the case with these "people's champion", Pac fanbase was also unbearable, and a partof them now (after May 2nd) turned into Golovkin fans. I Pac's case however at least nobody could deny that he has a resume to back up the big hype.

A large portion of his fans and plenty of media workers who dikkride Golovkin just give him a pass from ANYTHING. Other fighters are constantly shytted on and criticized for every little things but Golovkin can never be blamed...
Nothing is his fault but the opponents' who duck him, the promoters', the circumstances, etc...

Danny Garcia (28) : widely criticized fighter, has names on his resume like Matthysse, Peterson or Khan
Mayweather (39) : widely criticized fighter, has names on his resume like Pac, Canelo, Maidana, Mosley, Cotto, DLH... (I doN't have to go further)
Broner (27): widely criticized fighter, has names on his resume like Maidana and Porter
Ward (32) : gets many critics, has names on his resume like Froch, Kessler, Bika, Abraham, Dawson
Canelo (26) : everybody is at him right now, has names on his resume like May, Lara, Trout, Cotto

Golovkin (34): gets all the love in the world by the media, has names on his resume like Murray, Monroe or Geale


See the double standards? I don't even say that some of those fighters don't deserve criticism. Hell... I criticize Broner and Danny pretty much but the problem is when people give constant shyt to all these fighters from different reasons but give no criticism at all for a supposed P4P great who is 34 years old with a resume which not all that impressive.
His best win is probably Monroe or Murray but they still like to rate him in P4P top 5... How's that? Do we deal P4P places now based on someone is supposedly being ducked?

Also now the same people who slandered Canelo for the Khan fight (rightfully) now giving a pass to Golovkin for fighting Brook and call the skeptical people "haters" or "detractors".

@OC's finest

 

[keepemup]

I'm just contemplating if a full blow 'I told you so' thread will be appropriate?

 

[The axe murderer]

I'm just contemplating if a full blow 'I told you so' thread will be appropriate?

I'm not liking Brooks chances but holy hell will that turn the boxing world upside down.

 

[OC's finest]

He's an entertaining KO artist inside of the ring, but a full blown BS artist outside of it......

I mean...... he said, ON CAMERA, he wouldn't fight Brook because he's too small, right after berating Canelo about his bout with Khan.

The 2016 US Olympic gymnastics team can't even follow the mental acrobatics with this guy.

fair enough

at the same time, GGG is at a dilemma cuz aint no one trying to fight him, and u cant even argue it

if u hang around gyms, and talk to actual trainers/managers, aint NO one puttin their prospects against him

and the only fighters that are challenging him (hint hint) are puttin in crazy things in contracts knowing that it will make it impossible to get the fight

i can see the hate for fighting brook (btw, brook been weighting more than GGG at these weigh ins lol)

but it was probably the only money fight he had, considering brooks pull in the UK


who do you propose he should have fought?

 

[OC's finest]

He does have an entertaining style of fighting, yes, but that's not the reason why I (and plenty other posters here) don't fukk with him.

I don't hate him, but I've developed a great amount of distaste for him by being an overhyped fighter who's fought nothing but bums and him being content with that didn't make it better.

All the antics when he supposedly wanted to fight Ward and then backtracking like a bytch didn't make it better.

His trainer saying its part of Canelo's memo to fight a guy like Khan only to turn around and secure a fight with Kell Shook didn't make it better.

Him having despicable people within boxing media riding his nuts and writing desperate articles about how many nachos were sold at his fights, making him to be a top 3 P4P without a resume to back it up etc etc.
I can't wait for the day when this Borat fukker gets his first L, I hope its on saturday.

fair enough, and i think its fair to say hes over-rated based on his resume

but at the same time, ppl within boxing (actual fighters, trainers, etc) know hes the real deal. dudes amateur record speaks for itself, dudes one of the most decorated amateur boxers. he also got silver in the olympics in 04 i think.

and as for ducking ward, thats fair enough to criticize him. however, due to canelo obviously duckin on him, ggg hasnt even cleared out his division and become the "undisputed" champ at his weight. if ggg were to beat canelo (which i think he would do), and were to duck ward, then i'd say the same criticism. its harder to criticize him at this point when he hasnt cleared out his division too.

if anything, we should give ward the most credit for not waiting around for ggg, and stepping up against a killer in kovalev, whose also avoided by everyone.

i also agree i woudln put ggg top p4p based on his resume. kov, ward, chocalitito, rigo, lomachenko,crawford are all clearly ahead of him

 

[R=G]

Kell about to get his fukking head knocked off

Lol

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Yeah that's pretty much the problem

I also don't really like his style though cause I was always more impressed with speed, dynamism and ring IQ than about power and GOlovkin only has the latter from these, he is too mechanic and methodical for my taste.

I'm rather an exception though and I doN't hate his style. I actually understand why it is so popular and I also understand why the whole persona is popular.

1. People like KO artists/ferocious offense fighters
2. People like "people's champion" good guys and Golovkin (just like Pacquiao did) being sold like that

they especially like when the 2 appears at the same time, they like this strange duality that the guys who are such monsters inside the ring act all nice outside of it. That's also how Pac's persoa was built up.

Problem is that the dikk riding went way over the top.
You don't see boxing writers and some casuals stan fighters with easily better resumes than Golovkin the way they stan GGG.
I guess this is always the case with these "people's champion", Pac fanbase was also unbearable, and a partof them now (after May 2nd) turned into Golovkin fans. I Pac's case however at least nobody could deny that he has a resume to back up the big hype.

A large portion of his fans and plenty of media workers who dikkride Golovkin just give him a pass from ANYTHING. Other fighters are constantly shytted on and criticized for every little things but Golovkin can never be blamed...
Nothing is his fault but the opponents' who duck him, the promoters', the circumstances, etc...

Danny Garcia (28) : widely criticized fighter, has names on his resume like Matthysse, Peterson or Khan
Mayweather (39) : widely criticized fighter, has names on his resume like Pac, Canelo, Maidana, Mosley, Cotto, DLH... (I doN't have to go further)
Broner (27): widely criticized fighter, has names on his resume like Maidana and Porter
Ward (32) : gets many critics, has names on his resume like Froch, Kessler, Bika, Abraham, Dawson
Canelo (26) : everybody is at him right now, has names on his resume like May, Lara, Trout, Cotto

Golovkin (34): gets all the love in the world by the media, has names on his resume like Murray, Monroe or Geale


See the double standards? I don't even say that some of those fighters don't deserve criticism. Hell... I criticize Broner and Danny pretty much but the problem is when people give constant shyt to all these fighters from different reasons but give no criticism at all for a supposed P4P great who is 34 years old with a resume which not all that impressive.
His best win is probably Monroe or Murray but they still like to rate him in P4P top 5... How's that? Do we deal P4P places now based on someone is supposedly being ducked?

Also now the same people who slandered Canelo for the Khan fight (rightfully) now giving a pass to Golovkin for fighting Brook and call the skeptical people "haters" or "detractors".

@OC's finest

 

[Formerly known as...]

GGG will probably break him down by round 7-9.