Get married or become a rest haven?

[BigMan]

Men can love any woman. It doesn't matter if she's short, it doesn't matter if she's overweight, it doesn't matter if she's broke, it doesn't matter if she's unemployed, it doesn't matter if she's as dumb as a sack of rocks. There will be a man who will love that woman completely unconditionally. This is what men are taught, we have the message of 'outer beauty is not that important, love someone for who they are not for what they look like or what you think they can do for you' the men who wholeheartedly believe that message are the ones who end up becoming simps. They're willing to take a woman in warts and all.

Women are rarely like that with us. There are countless reasons I've seen give for curving an otherwise good guy.

• He's too short. He needs to be much taller than I am.
• he makes less money than me. He needs to make more
• he's bald
• He's too handsome
• he's too sexual
• he's not sexual enough
• He spends too much time with his friends and doesn't invite me, but when he does it feels awkward when I'm around them. That's somehow his fault.
• he's boring
• he's too spontaneous
• he's too serious
• he plays too much
• Other women flirt with him whenever we're out
• he's too smart
• he's too dumb
• he's fat and it's embarrassing to be seen with him
• he's too fit and it's embarrassing to be seen with him
• he chews too loudly
• he's too kind and it makes her feel uncomfortable
• he's too busy with his job even though he told you he has a busy job when you met him.
• You had a dream he cheated on you and now you can't trust him
• he reminds you too much of your ex but you can't say in which way

Anyone who posts in this thread knows someone or has experienced rejection for one of these reasons. The only people who actually bought into that 'what matters is the person' narrative are the ones who suffer from the harsh reality all the more. What we're seeing now though is those men who would just have to settle for these women regardless of whatever baggage they have are now starting to ask "why? if I wasn't good enough back then, why am I suddenly good enough now?" It's a salient question that I've seen internet feminists just euro-step entirely, same with the questions of "what's wrong with a father wanting to know that his child is his?" and "what is wrong with men trying to protect themselves from a potential false allegation?" or "what's wrong with men exercising their right to leave a relationship if they don't agree with his partner's past choices and overall decision making?"

Disagree 100% with your first paragraph

the rest I can agree with

 

[ZEupTWN]

I hear what he saying but stand firm, stay solid, no worries

those type of women know the type of dudes to seek out stable or not and they are usually what naive or vain ass nikkas for the most part…

If you not giving off those vibes they will more than likely stay away, but that’s the things low key a lot brehs still want that attention/validation despite shytting on these hoes every chance they get it

 

[seabreeze80]

Men can love any woman. It doesn't matter if she's short, it doesn't matter if she's overweight, it doesn't matter if she's broke, it doesn't matter if she's unemployed, it doesn't matter if she's as dumb as a sack of rocks. There will be a man who will love that woman completely unconditionally. This is what men are taught, we have the message of 'outer beauty is not that important, love someone for who they are not for what they look like or what you think they can do for you' the men who wholeheartedly believe that message are the ones who end up becoming simps. They're willing to take a woman in warts and all.

Women are rarely like that with us. There are countless reasons I've seen give for curving an otherwise good guy.

• He's too short. He needs to be much taller than I am.
• he makes less money than me. He needs to make more
• he's bald
• He's too handsome
• he's too sexual
• he's not sexual enough
• He spends too much time with his friends and doesn't invite me, but when he does it feels awkward when I'm around them. That's somehow his fault.
• he's boring
• he's too spontaneous
• he's too serious
• he plays too much
• Other women flirt with him whenever we're out
• he's too smart
• he's too dumb
• he's fat and it's embarrassing to be seen with him
• he's too fit and it's embarrassing to be seen with him
• he chews too loudly
• he's too kind and it makes her feel uncomfortable
• he's too busy with his job even though he told you he has a busy job when you met him.
• You had a dream he cheated on you and now you can't trust him
• he reminds you too much of your ex but you can't say in which way

Anyone who posts in this thread knows someone or has experienced rejection for one of these reasons. The only people who actually bought into that 'what matters is the person' narrative are the ones who suffer from the harsh reality all the more. What we're seeing now though is those men who would just have to settle for these women regardless of whatever baggage they have are now starting to ask "why? if I wasn't good enough back then, why am I suddenly good enough now?" It's a salient question that I've seen internet feminists just euro-step entirely, same with the questions of "what's wrong with a father wanting to know that his child is his?" and "what is wrong with men trying to protect themselves from a potential false allegation?" or "what's wrong with men exercising their right to leave a relationship if they don't agree with his partner's past choices and overall decision making?"

Men can love any woman? Are you sure about this breh? You could love Precious?

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

Men can love any woman? Are you sure about this breh? You could love Precious?

I couldn't, but he can.


My point is regardless of how little she's got going for her, a woman will always be able to access a man who is genuinely attracted to her and wants to take care of her regardless of how much baggage and problems she brings into his life, let alone how poorly she may compare to other women that this man could potentially attract.

Women aren't dying alone because nobody is interested, they're dying alone because they don't want to settle and when they get to the point where they are willing to overlook a man's income, weight, height, or whatever, it might be too late. That same man that she thought she was too good for when she had options might rebuff her advances and ignore her for a younger woman that shows more enthusiastic interest in him.

People can sense when someone is condescending to them and patronizing them and the women of today have either become too sloppy at hiding the fact that they're settling for these men, or the men are saying "nope. Not interested in being your 33rd choice" but I think it's actually a combination of both.

For all it's flaws, extremists, and grifters, I'll give that redpill movement ONE THING: They're telling men to rediscover their self-esteem and sense of value. It's asking men to stop and ask themselves "am I fulfilled with the life I'm living, and am I okay with who I am and how I'm treated?" they're triggering conversations within men about what constitutes a good life and if that man is willing to build a life he's happy with, but let a woman with baggage come into it because he's been poisoned with messages from hollywood about how being a bachelor is the worst thing ever(unless you smash a diff. woman every other night) and you should be paired up and have kids by the age of 35.

Men who get stuck in it are doing themselves a disservice, but there is room for conversations about men's pain, self-esteem, and how best to live one's life in a way he can be proud of. It's a good place to start, but men should carve out their own path and figure things out instead of consuming red-pill content all day.

 

[seabreeze80]

I couldn't, but he can.


My point is regardless of how little she's got going for her, a woman will always be able to access a man who is genuinely attracted to her and wants to take care of her regardless of how much baggage and problems she brings into his life, let alone how poorly she may compare to other women that this man could potentially attract.

Women aren't dying alone because nobody is interested, they're dying alone because they don't want to settle and when they get to the point where they are willing to overlook a man's income, weight, height, or whatever, it might be too late. That same man that she thought she was too good for when she had options might rebuff her advances and ignore her for a younger woman that shows more enthusiastic interest in him.

People can sense when someone is condescending to them and patronizing them and the women of today have either become too sloppy at hiding the fact that they're settling for these men, or the men are saying "nope. Not interested in being your 33rd choice" but I think it's actually a combination of both.

For all it's flaws, extremists, and grifters, I'll give that redpill movement ONE THING: They're telling men to rediscover their self-esteem and sense of value. It's asking men to stop and ask themselves "am I fulfilled with the life I'm living, and am I okay with who I am and how I'm treated?" they're triggering conversations within men about what constitutes a good life and if that man is willing to build a life he's happy with, but let a woman with baggage come into it because he's been poisoned with messages from hollywood about how being a bachelor is the worst thing ever(unless you smash a diff. woman every other night) and you should be paired up and have kids by the age of 35.

Men who get stuck in it are doing themselves a disservice, but there is room for conversations about men's pain, self-esteem, and how best to live one's life in a way he can be proud of. It's a good place to start, but men should carve out their own path and figure things out instead of consuming red-pill content all day.

Breh have you forgot about all the broke bummy short unattractive men with wives and girlfriends?

 

[Phitz]

He's right. Why get married to someone because they are "marriage material" but cheat with the ones you really want?

Men dont cheat with women they really want... usually starts out as just lust.

 

[Phitz]

yeah men need to ask more questions. Her past is important because it teaches you about her behavior patterns, how she's 'progressed'(good or bad) and what she's really aiming for.

Don't be somebody's last resort, regardless of their race/ethnicity.

Alot of you deal with these old white women in public too much, or these black women who used to be hot and have fallen off. Find your lane and investigate as much as possible before you decide to commit.

Stop being the last resort and stop being proud of it. Better to use your hands than be somebody's last resort.

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

TRUTH

many folks simply don’t want who wants them and end up chasing all the wrong things

And too many fukk up the best years of their lives doing so and instead of confronting that pain with the ones who hurt them, they cowardly take that energy to everybody they meet afterwards.
Meanwhile, the actual person that messed over em don’t even know they exist.

 

[Ozymandeas]

Modern society is seriously going down the tubes.

 

[keon]

learning to love yourself, is the greatest love of all..word to George Benson

 

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[Field Marshall Bradley]

Love is formed through finding someone who fulfills your selfish desires.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

I get what you mean in a literal sense but for me again OBVIOUSLY I would want her to feel the same way about the relationship. Ideally we both be getting the same perceived long term benefit.

In reality there is a "winner" in most relationships or a person who feels more happy/content. I personally think relationships work better when the woman loves the man more because it allows for fluctuations without the commitments shaking. From what I've seen when it's even all it takes is her losing a few pounds, buddy losing his job, a lurking work bf, etc. to tip the scales. I don't want to say women are more fickle in relationships but I've always perceived it that way if the man and the woman are entering the relationship based off love/attraction/enjoyment of company vs. a guy looking for consistent sex with a woman that isn't too bothersome, or a guy that wants someone to cook and clean for him, etc.

I think women are way more fickle because how they feel in the moment typically doesn't last any longer than that moment. I know me as a guy, when I love a women I don't just fall out of love with her. If I tell a woman I love her in March I'm not going to be out of love with her by April but I've experienced that with women.