Georgia 6th Congressional District Special Election - (Handel WINS 52%-48% over Ossoff)

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Democrats are wasting their time trying to one up each other on strategy. There are people out there who seriously think you can run an election in 435 congressional districts in the same way using the same strategy etc. It doesn't work, even the Montana race where Quist lost the election there was much talk about how he had closed the gap from the Trump-Clinton race and yet in the Governor's race the body-slam guy lost to a Democrat in 2016. Every race has different dynamics, even Bernie recognizes this when he campaigned for Heath Mello despite the guy taking positions that are considered to the right of the Democrats. Feingold,Teachout,and Quist lost their races and so did Ossof, that guy in South Carolina as well. Liberals have lost, centrists have lost and what people forget is they are all under the same Dem umbrella and brand. The fact that these losses occur to all wings of the party should tell them that maybe the electorate perceives the Dem brand in a similar manner regardless of who has been running in these special elections.
 

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Democrats are wasting their time trying to one up each other on strategy. There are people out there who seriously think you can run an election in 435 congressional districts in the same way using the same strategy etc. It doesn't work, even the Montana race where Quist lost the election there was much talk about how he had closed the gap from the Trump-Clinton race and yet in the Governor's race the body-slam guy lost to a Democrat in 2016. Every race has different dynamics, even Bernie recognizes this when he campaigned for Heath Mello despite the guy taking positions that are considered to the right of the Democrats. Feingold,Teachout,and Quist lost their races and so did Ossof, that guy in South Carolina as well. Liberals have lost, centrists have lost and what people forget is they are all under the same Dem umbrella and brand. The fact that these losses occur to all wings of the party should tell them that maybe the electorate perceives the Dem brand in a similar manner regardless of who has been running in these special elections.

Re-branding is a huge deal. The Nancy Pelosi ads against Ossoff and Quist are really an effective attack method by the right
 

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Re-branding is a huge deal. The Nancy Pelosi ads against Ossoff and Quist are really an effective attack method by the right
The right has talk radio that has built up bogeyman on the Left like Pelosi, Obama, and Hillary. They did that to the EPA as well. Using Pelosi is a signal to simply project whatever policies they oppose from taxes to social issues. Never mind that Quist never campaigned or signalled that Pelosi would assist him but their voters already knew what time it is the moment she is put in their ads. I also read that Ossoff didn't even reside in that district too, wonder how he thought he could get around that one.Evan Byah and Teachout got hammered on the same issue in Indiana and New York, its like the party is oblivious to some of the most basic red flags.
 

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Like I said. If the left wants to win they need to run a candidate that cares about the economy and doesn't (at least not outright) promote too much social liberalism. You're not going to win by throwing trannies in people's faces or touting how much you like to kill babies.

You will win if tell people you want to lower their taxes, you want universal healthcare. You want small business loans. You want unions. You will win if you put multinational corporations in their place (or not because they won't fund you).

It's the economy. It always has been. It always will be. You need economic populism and a charismatic person to push it. Everything else is nonsense.
 
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From FAH's article:

Jon Ossoff’s Loss Should Be a Lesson to Corporate Democrats

My own reservations about Ossoff were about strategy, not tactics. As we were reminded time and again by the media, an Ossoff win would have also been a victory over the left. It would have been trumpeted as vindication of “a decidedly un-Sanders-like vision of the future” and cited as proof that Democrats who “want to win” should follow his model and explicitly rule out raising taxes on the wealthy and firmly oppose “any move” towards single-payer health care. It’s tempting to argue that wasn’t Ossoff’s fault. After all, it was former Clinton aide Brian Fallon, not Ossoff, who came up with the “Panera Bread strategy”—essentially a rationale for appealing to suburban voters in swing districts rather than spending time or money trying to expand the Democratic party’s base among working-class voters, minorities, or millennials—which is really just a new name for the kind of triangulation that put Bill Clinton in the White House. As the career of its current master Rahm Emanuel suggests, that kind of politics can still be effective. But it was never progressive, and not even the backing of Daily Kos or the Working Families Party—who both worked hard, and effectively, on Ossoff’s behalf—can change that.

Nobody forced Ossoff to dismiss single payer, or held a gun to his head and made him use dog-whistle language about “both parties in Washington” wasting taxpayer dollars. Those messages weren’t aimed at Georgia voters; they were aimed at funders, like the supposed pragmatists at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee who stiffed James Thompson in Kansas and spent a paltry $340,000 on Rob Quist’s race in Montana, but lavished millions on Ossoff’s equally doomed campaign.
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I have no faith that the Democratic Party will improve itself in time for the 2018 and 2020 elections.

Not a good look at all.

Drumpf Republicans have demonstrated that they are in it to win it. The DNC needs to examine itself and oust its handlers and long-serving leaders. A refresh has long been needed.
 

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I have no faith that the Democratic Party will improve itself in time for the 2018 and 2020 elections.

Not a good look at all.

Drumpf Republicans have demonstrated that they are in it to win it. The DNC needs to examine itself and oust its handlers and long-serving leaders. A refresh has long been needed.

the Democrats have a lower approval rating than president cheetoh, who has a historically low rating

Bernie Sanders has the highest approval rating in the country at over 60%

common sense says you adopt the policies of the popular person, and reject the unpopular bullshyt, but the centrist dems are so stuck in their losing ways, they can't.
 

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the Democrats have a lower approval rating than president cheetoh, who has a historically low rating

Bernie Sanders has the highest approval rating in the country at over 60%

common sense says you adopt the policies of the popular person, and reject the unpopular bullshyt, but the centrist dems are so stuck in their losing ways, they can't.

The Clintons, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and the remnants of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz need to be removed from the Party.

And Tom Perez's racist ass can go too.
 
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