1/31
@WUTangKids
How is this legal….isn’t this just straight up buying votes….started at $45 and now $100
2/31
@brob88888
@TheJusticeDept
What say you? This seems pretty not f-ing OK?
3/31
@semidegen
It’s a petition for a non ballot initiative that they are getting paid to sign so that’s how they are skirting around this. But it’s 100% buying influence and crosses ethical boundaries.
4/31
@KittieKatt408
@DOJCrimDiv
@PAStateDept
@PAAttorneyGen
@GovernorShapiro
Can we get some oversight/enforcement here?
Is this not a campaign violation, this man buying/gifting an election?
What if he offers $1,000 per person if they sign a pledge and then his app can confirm they voted??
5/31
@StockSquirrel23
Such a scam
6/31
@DanTansky
I'd take Elons money and sign his bullshyt petition.
He can't force you to vote for Trump, but you can separate an idiot from his money.
7/31
@apathetic_NY
Don’t worry guys! Merrick’s going to drop the hammer on them!
8/31
@cpips23
9/31
@judelawmiami
The legality of offering financial incentives for signing political petitions, like the one described in your X post, hinges on several key distinctions within both federal and state election laws:
Federal Law: Under federal law, it is illegal to pay or offer to pay someone to vote or register to vote in a federal election. However, paying people to encourage others to engage in political activities (like signing petitions) is not explicitly prohibited. This can be seen as a form of compensation for political activism or canvassing, which is generally allowed as long as it's reported as an expenditure.
State Laws: States have varying regulations regarding paying for signatures on petitions:
Pay-per-Signature Bans: Some states ban paying circulators on a per-signature basis to avoid incentivizing fraud, but they might allow payment based on time worked or other metrics. If America PAC structures its payment not directly for the signature but for the referral or effort in getting signatures, this might navigate around such bans.
Petition Circulator Regulations: States might require paid petition circulators to register, wear badges, or provide affidavits, but these rules focus on transparency and accountability rather than banning payments outright.
Campaign Finance Regulations: The key here is disclosure and purpose. If the money given is disclosed as an expenditure for campaign activities (like voter engagement or list building for campaign purposes), and not explicitly for voting for a candidate, it falls within legal parameters. The purpose should be documented as promoting political engagement or advocacy rather than quid pro quo for voting.
First and Second Amendment Advocacy: The petition in question supports constitutional amendments, which might be viewed differently from direct campaign activities for a candidate. Advocacy for issues, even when aligned with a candidate's platform, can sometimes navigate around stricter campaign finance laws if it's not directly tied to influencing the vote for a candidate.
Legal Precedents and Interpretations: Campaigns and PACs often operate in gray areas where legal interpretations can allow for innovative tactics. If there's no direct law prohibiting payment for referral to sign a petition (especially one not directly linked to immediate voting), and if such payments are correctly reported, then America PAC might argue they are within legal bounds.
When posting on X or any platform about this initiative:
Clarify the Purpose: Make sure to clarify that the payment is for the effort of engaging potential voters in political advocacy, not for the act of voting itself.
Transparency: Mention that this practice complies with applicable laws, emphasizing transparency in campaign finance reporting.
Avoid Direct Vote Buying Language: Ensure the language does not imply that the payment is for voting or registering to vote but for participation in a political advocacy effort.
Remember, while this outlines how such an action could be legal, it's crucial for legal teams to review specific state laws where the activity takes place and ensure compliance with all federal regulations. Always encourage interested parties to consult with a legal expert for the most accurate advice.
10/31
@edavidds
It’s close!
11/31
@Ra5Rebel
Let’s see. @cnn, @Lawrence @msnbc @IAmPoliticsGirl @marceelias @nytimes @wsj @dojphofficial
/search?q=#ElectionInterference @NewsHour @UniNoticias
12/31
@radiokaos666
Maybe the @FEC could enlighten us on this matter?
13/31
@MisinfoFact
That can not be legal.
14/31
@LauriceF
I guess the $45 wasn't enough to entice people. lol so pathetic
15/31
@KiraPDX
Do we even have a DOJ any more?!
16/31
@HangleyJr
sounds like their internal polls aren’t good. if the price hits $200 they’re toast
17/31
@SmallBizRealist
If he has to keep increasing the amount, it’s flailing.
18/31
@Eviemlovas
Your vote is private. Take the money and run?
19/31
@MattMojoMan
Too bad that merrick garland is an empty suit.
20/31
@4fourme
Hey @TheJusticeDept , you up and listening? You going to keep letting this go on? Do your job!
21/31
@chimeposts
That reeks of desperation from team trump
22/31
@xsizzell
It is
23/31
@Bgzgt
It's often required you be a voter for you're opinions or voice to count. Many things, my opinion or signature was denied. It was useless, my voice wouldn't be heard if I wasn't able to vote. He's having a consequential petition signed. Illegal's votes are being bought.
24/31
@NPCTE22
You drank your Kool-aid today?
25/31
@1blueshirtgirl
I hope they take Elon’s money and vote for Kamala.
You know you’re a loser when you are so desperate you’re paying for votes.
This will backfire.
26/31
@DeepState_sat
I believe in free speech & the right to bear arms. And obviously as someone who believes in those things I voted for Kamala.
The problem is you have to give a ketamine addict your personal information.
Anyone signing this and voting trump is not being honest with their beliefs
27/31
@tRumpnado2016
Paying people to "find" people is sketchy but maybe legal.
Paying people to "sign a petition" like this is vote buying.
Period.
Elon is now buying votes.
Elon is gambling the election will be over & Trump will pardon him before he gets indicted.
[Quoted tweet]
How is this legal….isn’t this just straight up buying votes….started at $45 and now $100
28/31
@reflection_semi
He’s being investigated too
29/31
@SimpleHuman419
As he said before,
[Quoted tweet]
Tucker Carlson to Elon Musk
“If he loses, you’re f****d dude!”
Elon- “if he loses, I’m f****d!”
If Trump loses, we are all f****d.”
https://video-ft.twimg.com/amplify_video/1846567829966897152/vid/avc1/720x1220/tSI4YgQ4mx4eMscd.mp4
30/31
@Progressspecies
Well .. after we win this election .. We the People shall recover all that has been stolen from us by the billionaires, corporations and the inherited wealthy ..
31/31
@TomJoad2Night
Oligarchs do what they want especially when the government is dependent on them. Sad state of affairs
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