General Elon Musk Fukkery Thread

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That's not a Honda, that's a Chevy Blazer.

I want a fully Honda EV not some rebadged Chevy. I would prefer an electric Accord or Civic, but I might be open to a smaller cuv

Honda Saloon is gonna be their flagship EV but that won't be out for another couple years.

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Elon Musk is a ‘promoter of evil,’ EU rule-of-law chief says​

“I’m really scared by digital platforms in bad hands,” Věra Jourová tells POLITICO.

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Elon Musk has been on a collision course with European officials, fighting regulators and governments on multiple fronts. | Apu Gomes/Getty Images

October 16, 2024 3:13 pm CET

By Sam Clark and Barbara Moens

BRUSSELS — Elon Musk, unlike other tech bosses, "is not able to recognize good and evil,” a European Union top official said Wednesday.

The multibillionaire tech mogul and boss of X, Tesla and SpaceX is amplifying hatred, outgoing European Commission Vice President Věra Jourová told POLITICO in an interview, calling him a “promoter of evil.”

Musk has been on a collision course with European officials, fighting regulators and governments on multiple fronts. The tech mogul bought Twitter in April 2022, rebranding it as X shortly after, and he has attracted criticism for his management of the platform, with European politicians and civil society saying he has allowed hate speech to fester on the site.
“We started to relativize evil, and he's helping it proactively. He's the promoter of evil,” Jourová said.

The Czech politician, who was the EU’s justice chief from 2014-2019 and has been in charge of “values and transparency” since 2019, has had regular contact with many of the world’s largest technology companies over the last decade on issues like privacy, disinformation and content moderation.

Big tech companies have “monstrous power in their hands,” Jourová said. “I'm really scared by digital platforms in bad hands."

X is “the main hub for spreading antisemitism now,” Jourová said, adding that she warned ministers from EU capitals on Tuesday to be vigilant to the possibility of online antisemitism spilling over into the real world.

“Now we are in the situation where the member states’ law enforcement powers have to protect the people who are under threat, under physical threat,” she said. “This is what I mean ... This new chapter, new intensity of antisemitism, where we don't see sufficient action from the side of the platforms.”

Jourová has never met Musk in person, but said that “even without this personal meeting, I would say that out of all the bosses I met, he is the only one who is not able to recognize good and evil.”

The EU’s former internal market chief Thierry Breton did meet Musk in California in 2022, and since clashed with him publicly over Musk’s approach to online content moderation.

X did not respond to a request for comment.

Regulation vs. innovation​


Jourová also dismissed the increasingly popular narrative that Brussels' overregulation has stifled tech innovation.

The EU passed a raft of digital legislation over the last five years, leading some of the world’s largest technology companies to argue that they cannot launch AI tools and other innovative products in the bloc because they don’t know how the new laws work together or how they will be enforced.

But innovation for innovation’s sake is not necessarily desirable, Jourová said: “We have to be sure that the innovations are developed to do good to people.”

She said she wondered why innovation was typically "described as something absolutely good, [and] regulations as something which is bad … It's not black and white."

Big tech companies’ vast profits should not be at the expense of Europeans, Jourová said — even if that means product-launch delays. “Nobody says that Google and others cannot introduce new technologies in Europe. Maybe, one, two months, half a year later than somewhere else, but we want to be sure,” she said.

Jourová led work on the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), a landmark privacy regime that went into force in 2018 and remains one of the EU’s most famous — and infamous — laws.

Though the EU recently passed the Artificial Intelligence Act, the Digital Services Act and the Digital Markets Act, the GDPR often remains the main target of tech companies' ire, particularly because of how it is interpreted. The question of whether the law will need to be changed in the next five years is a key issue for incoming Commission tech chief Henna Virkkunen, Jourová said.

“I think in [terms of] GDPR, we will have to look again at how to better enforce under the principle of one continent, one law,” she said.

Jourová, who is leaving Brussels after 10 years at the Berlaymont, joked that she was returning to Prague as a “dissident,” given she left her own ANO party, which has turned more illiberal under former Czech Prime Minister Andrej Babiš.

The return of the Euroskeptic Babiš, who is currently leading the polls ahead of next year's Czech election, would strengthen the illiberal forces in the EU, given Babiš’ ties to Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán.

Jourová dismissed rumors that she would start her own political movement to take on her former boss. Instead, she will return to her alma mater, Charles University in Prague, in a management and teaching role.
 

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1/11
@RonFilipkowski
This particular company has proven to be somewhat litigious in the past.



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2/11
@Hoover5454
He must want to donate 7 or 800 million to Dominion.



3/11
@daggerdaggerHS
Dominion owned space company would be cool lol



4/11
@tindale_hayley
Oh , he went there ?? Didn’t work too well for FOX .



5/11
@MaximEffort433
I know Dominion doesn't need my money but I'd still kind of like to chip in on a GoFundMe or something.



6/11
@valerie5462
I shared this with dominion



7/11
@MaileOnX
I heard him say that and gasped



8/11
@Suzierizzo1
Elon has enough troubles lately with all the Teslas blowing up in people’s garages because of the lithium batteries mixing with saltwater. He’s gonna be bankrupt.



9/11
@SaintLaurant
Hope Dominion is paying attention, who knows maybe "Leon" will have to sell twitter to help pay them in a settlement.



10/11
@Texas4Progress
These people have claimed to "have the truth!" against Dominion for about 4 years now. Yet this truth hasn't been demonstrated and wasn't used in the $1b lawsuit that Fox lost for peddling this claim. Elon is a dumbass for this. He should have put the dude in check with reality.



11/11
@paulprosseda




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1/31
@WUTangKids
How is this legal….isn’t this just straight up buying votes….started at $45 and now $100



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2/31
@brob88888
@TheJusticeDept

What say you? This seems pretty not f-ing OK?



3/31
@semidegen
It’s a petition for a non ballot initiative that they are getting paid to sign so that’s how they are skirting around this. But it’s 100% buying influence and crosses ethical boundaries.



4/31
@KittieKatt408
@DOJCrimDiv
@PAStateDept
@PAAttorneyGen
@GovernorShapiro

Can we get some oversight/enforcement here?

Is this not a campaign violation, this man buying/gifting an election?

What if he offers $1,000 per person if they sign a pledge and then his app can confirm they voted??



5/31
@StockSquirrel23
Such a scam



6/31
@DanTansky
I'd take Elons money and sign his bullshyt petition.

He can't force you to vote for Trump, but you can separate an idiot from his money.



7/31
@apathetic_NY
Don’t worry guys! Merrick’s going to drop the hammer on them!



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8/31
@cpips23




9/31
@judelawmiami
The legality of offering financial incentives for signing political petitions, like the one described in your X post, hinges on several key distinctions within both federal and state election laws:

Federal Law: Under federal law, it is illegal to pay or offer to pay someone to vote or register to vote in a federal election. However, paying people to encourage others to engage in political activities (like signing petitions) is not explicitly prohibited. This can be seen as a form of compensation for political activism or canvassing, which is generally allowed as long as it's reported as an expenditure.

State Laws: States have varying regulations regarding paying for signatures on petitions:

Pay-per-Signature Bans: Some states ban paying circulators on a per-signature basis to avoid incentivizing fraud, but they might allow payment based on time worked or other metrics. If America PAC structures its payment not directly for the signature but for the referral or effort in getting signatures, this might navigate around such bans.

Petition Circulator Regulations: States might require paid petition circulators to register, wear badges, or provide affidavits, but these rules focus on transparency and accountability rather than banning payments outright.

Campaign Finance Regulations: The key here is disclosure and purpose. If the money given is disclosed as an expenditure for campaign activities (like voter engagement or list building for campaign purposes), and not explicitly for voting for a candidate, it falls within legal parameters. The purpose should be documented as promoting political engagement or advocacy rather than quid pro quo for voting.

First and Second Amendment Advocacy: The petition in question supports constitutional amendments, which might be viewed differently from direct campaign activities for a candidate. Advocacy for issues, even when aligned with a candidate's platform, can sometimes navigate around stricter campaign finance laws if it's not directly tied to influencing the vote for a candidate.

Legal Precedents and Interpretations: Campaigns and PACs often operate in gray areas where legal interpretations can allow for innovative tactics. If there's no direct law prohibiting payment for referral to sign a petition (especially one not directly linked to immediate voting), and if such payments are correctly reported, then America PAC might argue they are within legal bounds.

When posting on X or any platform about this initiative:

Clarify the Purpose: Make sure to clarify that the payment is for the effort of engaging potential voters in political advocacy, not for the act of voting itself.

Transparency: Mention that this practice complies with applicable laws, emphasizing transparency in campaign finance reporting.

Avoid Direct Vote Buying Language: Ensure the language does not imply that the payment is for voting or registering to vote but for participation in a political advocacy effort.

Remember, while this outlines how such an action could be legal, it's crucial for legal teams to review specific state laws where the activity takes place and ensure compliance with all federal regulations. Always encourage interested parties to consult with a legal expert for the most accurate advice.



10/31
@edavidds
It’s close!



11/31
@Ra5Rebel
Let’s see. @cnn, @Lawrence @msnbc @IAmPoliticsGirl @marceelias @nytimes @wsj @dojphofficial /search?q=#ElectionInterference @NewsHour @UniNoticias



12/31
@radiokaos666
Maybe the @FEC could enlighten us on this matter?



13/31
@MisinfoFact
That can not be legal.



14/31
@LauriceF
I guess the $45 wasn't enough to entice people. lol so pathetic



15/31
@KiraPDX
Do we even have a DOJ any more?!



16/31
@HangleyJr
sounds like their internal polls aren’t good. if the price hits $200 they’re toast



17/31
@SmallBizRealist
If he has to keep increasing the amount, it’s flailing.



18/31
@Eviemlovas
Your vote is private. Take the money and run?



19/31
@MattMojoMan
Too bad that merrick garland is an empty suit.



20/31
@4fourme
Hey @TheJusticeDept , you up and listening? You going to keep letting this go on? Do your job!



21/31
@chimeposts
That reeks of desperation from team trump



22/31
@xsizzell
It is



23/31
@Bgzgt
It's often required you be a voter for you're opinions or voice to count. Many things, my opinion or signature was denied. It was useless, my voice wouldn't be heard if I wasn't able to vote. He's having a consequential petition signed. Illegal's votes are being bought.



24/31
@NPCTE22
You drank your Kool-aid today?



25/31
@1blueshirtgirl
I hope they take Elon’s money and vote for Kamala.

You know you’re a loser when you are so desperate you’re paying for votes.

This will backfire.



26/31
@DeepState_sat
I believe in free speech & the right to bear arms. And obviously as someone who believes in those things I voted for Kamala.

The problem is you have to give a ketamine addict your personal information.

Anyone signing this and voting trump is not being honest with their beliefs



27/31
@tRumpnado2016
Paying people to "find" people is sketchy but maybe legal.
Paying people to "sign a petition" like this is vote buying.
Period.
Elon is now buying votes.
Elon is gambling the election will be over & Trump will pardon him before he gets indicted.

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How is this legal….isn’t this just straight up buying votes….started at $45 and now $100


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28/31
@reflection_semi
He’s being investigated too



29/31
@SimpleHuman419
As he said before,

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Tucker Carlson to Elon Musk

“If he loses, you’re f****d dude!”

Elon- “if he loses, I’m f****d!”

If Trump loses, we are all f****d.”


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30/31
@Progressspecies
Well .. after we win this election .. We the People shall recover all that has been stolen from us by the billionaires, corporations and the inherited wealthy ..



31/31
@TomJoad2Night
Oligarchs do what they want especially when the government is dependent on them. Sad state of affairs




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1/4
NEW: The federal judge in Texas overseeing Elon Musk's suit against Media Matters made more Tesla stock transactions than previously known, new records show

U.S. District Judge Reed O'Connor continues to deliver pro-Musk rulings as an investor in Tesla

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/16/g-s1-28620/texas-judge-elon-musk-x-case-tesla-shares



2/4
When Media Matters asked that Musk reveal all parties who could have a financial interest in outcome, O’Connor dismissed request and made MM pay for X’s attorneys fees over the disclosure request. O’Connor called it an attempt at forcing “a backdoor recusal”



3/4
Wow: Twitter's new ToS says all disputes will be heard in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas located in Tarrant County (Tesla investor Reed O'Connor's court)

Truly remarkable, considering Twitter's new HQ is NOT in this district, but in western Texas.



4/4
Update with comment from @steve_vladeck

“Are we going to allow companies to ... stack the deck in their favor whenever they have the power to get you to agree to terms of service?”

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/16/g-s1-28620/texas-judge-elon-musk-x-case-tesla-shares




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Half a Million Users Flooded to Twitter Competitor After Elon Musk Handed Creeps the Keys​


Frank Landymore

Updated Fri, October 18, 2024 at 3:22 AM EDT·3 min read
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Surprise, surprise. X-formerly-Twitter owner Elon Musk is implementing yet another brain-meltingly dumb change to his social media platform by rendering the block function completely pointless and opening the floodgates for even more harassment.

In its new form, "blocking" someone still allows them to view your posts and your profile, tearing down an important way for some users to protect themselves against abuse on the site.

And it appears that for many users on the fence about staying on the site, this was the last straw.



Right after the changes were announced, BlueSky, a competing platform founded by former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey, proclaimed that it had received more than 100,000 new users. Barely twelve hours later, that tally climbed to half a million, the company said Thursday — and it's not showing signs of slowing down.

In fact, the influx of signups grew so feverish that the website temporarily experienced an outage.

Bluesky, for its part, is relishing in rubbing in Musk's blunder.

"At Bluesky, we take online safety seriously," the social media platform's official account wrote on X. "If you want to block someone, you can!"

This is definitely not the first time that there's been an exodus of Twitter users under Musk's leadership. A similar wave of people tried to join Bluesky the moment it hit the Apple and Android stores last year. And in general, X's user base has been steadily declining since his takeover.

But the single most impactful incident was probably Musk's dispute with Brazil's top court, which led to Twitter being banned in the country after the billionaire magnate refused to comply with a judge's orders to remove accounts accused of spreading misinformation.

Musk blinked first and eventually complied to get the ban lifted. But the damage was done: Bluesky gained over three million new users within days of the ban, the overwhelming majority of whom were Brazilian.

Such is Musk's proclivity for shooting himself — and his businesses — in the foot, while handing his competitors an advantage. Bluesky developers even reportedly have a name for when one of Musk's decisions leads to a deluge of newbies, according to journalist Joshua J Friedman: an EME, or "Elon Musk Event."

In a long list of questionable stuff Musk has done with the platform, the change to the block function is definitely up there. The feature will now only prevent blocked accounts from liking, replying, and reposting your tweets. But if your account is public, they can still see anything you post.

This is a decision that Musk has been mulling over for at least a year, tweeting last summer that blocking, in its typical form, "makes no sense."

We're now getting treated to some additional insight as to why that's the case. Apparently, it's the people who are doing the blocking that are the real problem, because they can use the feature "to share and hide harmful or private information about those they've blocked," the platform's engineering team tweeted.

People who would rather not get harassed or stalked see it differently. Blocking is pretty much the only tool for people to protect themselves against malicious individuals on social media. While users facing a barrage of harassment on X still have the ability to go fully private, some need to stay public for job reasons. Now, those accounts have lost a useful way to stay under the radar.
 

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1/7
@FrakerMonica
If you live in Texas, this right here is very disturbing. 👀

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1/Looking increasingly like Musk is setting up the option to pursue a Russia-backed TEXIT strategy. One possible scenario is to spark a deep rift (over the election, perhaps), have Texas secede, but also claim the mantle of “the real America.”


2/7
@RandVegan
Texit has no support and isn’t popular with anyone here. Even without Dems holding one or the legislature bodies this won’t grow anywhere beyound Twitter fringe accounts



3/7
@FrakerMonica
You are right, but this guy is up to no good and must be stopped.



4/7
@boxcarmurphy
Would Texas really secede if it meant losing all those government contracts it currently enjoys?



5/7
@GaryHar70258384
God I hate Musk



6/7
@FerrellsLaw
This is troubling.



7/7
@Ninainnac
I live in Texas and will keep an eye out for this bs. Trump and Musk are destroying democracy.




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1/11
@davetroy
1/Looking increasingly like Musk is setting up the option to pursue a Russia-backed TEXIT strategy. One possible scenario is to spark a deep rift (over the election, perhaps), have Texas secede, but also claim the mantle of “the real America.”

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Scoop:

Elon Musk quietly created two new entities this month — one called "United States of America Inc," which names him as its sole director.

This follows his $75M America PAC donations, dark money reports and the "government efficiency commission."
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2/11
@davetroy
2/More background on the long-festering, Russia-backed Texit plan here.

To Texas With Love: What Russia's support of TEXIT tells us about the frayed nature of U.S. politics



3/11
@davetroy
3/Steady drumbeat of this crap from Musk and his proxies over the last year. Promises to “Fight for America,” while basing all his assets in Texas and doing his best to capture government there. Pay attention.



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4/11
@davetroy
4/First the America handle, then America? Looking plausible.

“Elon Musk takes over ‘America’ handle on X to promote pro-Trump PAC: report”

Elon Musk takes over ‘America’ handle on X to promote pro-Trump PAC: report



5/11
@davetroy
5/I wrote in more detail about Musk and TEXIT a few weeks ago, but these new developments add further evidence in this direction.

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🔴 Elon Musk: A Dangerous ‘Evolution’

Has the X owner simply lost his marbles or been ‘radicalised’ by his own platform? @davetroy traces his beliefs and behaviour to paint an altogether more concerning picture of Musk’s political and cultural journey

bylinetimes.com/2024/10/02/e…


6/11
@davetroy
6/Also note re: his filing of United States of America, Inc. that he has said, “government is just a corporation at the limit,” borrowing a math term suggesting government is just an infinitely large corporation. He says that and many other idiotic things here.

https://invidious.poast.org/live/Zwx_7XAJ3p0?si=SkIEq66GRjnQlq_k



7/11
@davetroy
7/For the record: a TEXIT effort doesn't need to be successful to cause damage. Even starting down this path is enough to cause chaos, and because it would likely be done in an unconstitutional way, it isn't possible to know how it would play out. Best to be forewarned.



8/11
@davetroy
8/And I would bet that Greg Abbott, Ken Paxton, Elon Musk, and Daniel Miller (the TEXIT guy) would be the ones at the forefront of this. Along with any CSPOA allies that they can round up. Also would anticipate people "moving to Texas" to be "part of this." 🤪



9/11
@davetroy
9/Abbott, Paxton, Musk start making declarations of secession. "Allies" start moving to (and supporting) Texas. Conflict and chaos ensue. Then you see what's possible once that scenario is in place. Repeat. A road into the unknown.



10/11
@davetroy
10/Recall that Abbott has already challenged the Federal government’s authority this year. Expect border autonomy to be the rallying cry, should this come together. This isn’t hard to see.

Texas Gov Abbott defies Biden administration amid border battle over island used by cartels



11/11
@davetroy
11/And I would encourage folks to focus more on this as part of a Putin-led strategy to destabilize and then dissolve the United States than to obsess on the specific mechanics of Texas secession. If they pursue this, it will be the tip of a spear.




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