General Elon Musk Fukkery Thread

[that guy]

Twitter was a dumpster fire before Elon took over. What he's talking about making it into it can never be because human beings are incapable of having a place where the masses can speak freely and meaningful debate can be had. What he's going to find out if he already doesn't know is many people aren't interested in free speech they're interested in giving their controversial or shytty hot takes with no consequences and they don't really wanna hear opposing viewpoints.

When caucasians say free speech they really mean hate speech. That’s why the n-word was trending the first day he purchased twitter. Any time you have a social media outlet where caucasians can speak freely w/o repercussions it turns into a cesspool of hatred.

 

[that guy]

How soon is this acquisition going to crash and burn and major advertisers pull out of the platform?

GM already pulled their ads because Tesla is a competitor

 

[Spidey Man]

Musk's maga outreach won't save the platform after he alienates everybody. Twitter is gonna hit the iceberg

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

It’s simple, Kids don’t use twitter and celebrities don’t use twitters

They are the ones that drive engagement.

What? Celebrities clearly use twitter, 50% of pop culture fodder comes from celebrity tweets and news postings. And not every platform has to appeal to kids, this isnt 2002, it's 22022, you now have 4 generations who are digital natives/digitally fluent and we all have different preferences for engaging on the net. Gen X is on FB and Twitter, Millennials on Twitter, Pinterest and IG, Younger Millennials and Gen Z on TikTok, Gen Z on discord....and gen alpha will have their preference.

Twitter's number 1 issue has always been about not being able to monetize, but it clearly has a niche in being the place for real time news, reaction, and trending conversation. Sure you don't have to be on twitter to for it's trends and memes to hit other places like IG, reddit and thecoli, but no other platform sets shyt off the same as twitter

 

[CrimsonTider]

What? Celebrities clearly use twitter, 50% of pop culture fodder comes from celebrity tweets and news postings. And not every platform has to appeal to kids, this isnt 2002, it's 22022, you now have 4 generations who are digital natives/digitally fluent and we all have different preferences for engaging on the net. Gen X is on FB and Twitter, Millennials on Twitter, Pinterest and IG, Younger Millennials and Gen Z on TikTok, Gen Z on discord....and gen alpha will have their preference.

Twitter's number 1 issue has always been about not being able to monetize, but it clearly has a niche in being the place for real time news, reaction, and trending conversation. Sure you don't have to be on twitter to for it's trends and memes to hit other places like IG, reddit and thecoli, but no other platform sets shyt off the same as twitter

Celebrities don’t really use twitter anymore. It’s just to announce some or blatant PR

They have learned over the years that tweeting can only hurt you publicly (see kyrie)

And you absolutely need kids using your platform to grow your user base

Twitter is great for breaking news and promoting only fans

 

[Crayola Coyote]

Sweet, I can get my banned account back

 

[MushroomX]

Musk doing a Pay 4 Play with Verification: $20 a Month, workers have until Nov. 7 to finish this or they are fired.

Addendum: Some reporting it as $5 per month to keep badge.

Twitter is planning to start charging soon for verification

“The whole verification process is being revamped right now,” Musk tweeted.

www.theverge.com

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Celebrities don’t really use twitter anymore. It’s just to announce some or blatant PR

They have learned over the years that tweeting can only hurt you publicly (see kyrie)

And you absolutely need kids using your platform to grow your user base

Twitter is great for breaking news and promoting only fans

that's literally not the name of the game anymore. no platform is reaching younger users because there is something else that pops up that is more appealing and relevant to each micro generation.

this isnt 2005-2015 anymore when something like FB was able to tap college kids, HS kids, then gen x and finally boomers. social media is a mature category and with that comes fragmentation. it's all about monetizing your base, whatever that base may be. pinterest users have been declining for the past few quarters and it was never a huge platform to begin with, but they've figured out how to get their users to spend money and thus keep advertisers buying, their revenue is increasing. nothing created prior to 2015 is going to attract younger users, we'll only see young users churn to new platforms even faster - word to snapchat.

 

[drifter]

that's literally not the name of the game anymore. no platform is reaching younger users because there is something else that pops up that is more appealing and relevant to each micro generation.

this isnt 2005-2015 anymore when something like FB was able to tap college kids, HS kids, then gen x and finally boomers. social media is a mature category and with that comes fragmentation. it's all about monetizing your base, whatever that base may be. pinterest users have been declining for the past few quarters and it was never a huge platform to begin with, but they've figured out how to get their users to spend money and thus keep advertisers buying, their revenue is increasing. nothing created prior to 2015 is going to attract younger users, we'll only see young users churn to new platforms even faster - word to snapchat.

You're both right but you're downplaying the significance of the youth. Tiktok exploded off young people and is the most popular platform today. We'd been trending that way but the fashion world bent a knee to the Y2K designs they pushed, Ed Hardy shirts are popular again because of the youth. They're the culture setters/tastemakers

You always make sure the platform or whatever is accessible for them, they're the ones most easily manipulable and accepting to new routines. Get a cult following with them and they'll make sure the older generations know who you are. When they start looking for the new flash in the pan the idea is to have enough of them plus the older brackets to survive then thrive. If you're bigger than you were before they left many will come back once other flashs flicker out because they're already familiar with your brand, adaptation is the key

You don't need a Twitter account to start/run a business, it's mandatory you have a IG and Tiktok. You could probably get by with just TikTok, that's how many more eyes are on the platform than IG, but IG's just better for intimate communication. The youth have passed everyone but millennials in luxury spending so imagine if they had the wallets older gens had. 18-24 is one of if not your most important market if you want to make money/have a solid platform and they don't use Twitter that much except to make stan accounts

 

[bnew]

Celebrities don’t really use twitter anymore. It’s just to announce some or blatant PR

They have learned over the years that tweeting can only hurt you publicly (see kyrie)

And you absolutely need kids using your platform to grow your user base

Twitter is great for breaking news and promoting only fans

celebrities share their thoughts & opinions about a myriad of things on twitter everyday!

what you think twitter is great for speaks volumes about what content you seek on it and not what others use it for.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Twitter was a dumpster fire before Elon took over. What he's talking about making it into it can never be because human beings are incapable of having a place where the masses can speak freely and meaningful debate can be had. What he's going to find out if he already doesn't know is many people aren't interested in free speech they're interested in giving their controversial or shytty hot takes with no consequences and they don't really wanna hear opposing viewpoints.

Something I respect about TheColi is that even if someone is shook of opposing views or having their hot take challenged, they really can't duck the fade. On platforms like Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Quora, etc., the prominence of a reply is driven by its popularity, so if someone shares a B.S. hot take and the rebuttal isn't popular, most people won't even see it and OP can just ignore because only the popular shyt floats to the top. But on TheColi all responses get equal treatment and it's not solely a popularity contest.

Message board formats like TheColi, so long as they are decently moderated, seem to be more conducive to debate than other social media formats that base prominence on popularity.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I want to buy Twitter to "save humanity and elevate consciousness".

Starts Spamming Hilary Clinton replies with Q/Pizzagate level conspiracies:

And this is his response:





He owns the platform and he's still trolling and trying to drive discourse downwards.

 

[bnew]

Something I respect about TheColi is that even if someone is shook of opposing views or having their hot take challenged, they really can't duck the fade. On platforms like Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Quora, etc., the prominence of a reply is driven by its popularity, so if someone shares a B.S. hot take and the rebuttal isn't popular, most people won't even see it and OP can just ignore because only the popular shyt floats to the top. But on TheColi all responses get equal treatment and it's not solely a popularity contest.

Message board formats like TheColi, so long as they are decently moderated, seem to be more conducive to debate than other social media formats that base prominence on popularity.

I find when I start asking basic questions, posters just abandon the thread.

but yeah, no buried comment threads makes it easy for others to see you get called out.

some of the funniest threads on here was when OP abandoned their own thread when they were called out.

Something doesn't feel right about this

:patrice::mjtf:

www.thecoli.com

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I find when I start asking basic questions, posters just abandon the thread.

I mean, that's a pretty big W to drive them out of their own thread as opposed to other platforms where unless you have a big following, they can just ignore it and most posters will likely never see it.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Nice simple article on the various ways Twitter could potentially go down:

Sources described a few nightmare scenarios that could legitimately hobble Twitter, which is still used by more than 200 million people every day:

1. Outside hackers and/or hostile foreign governments focus their hacking efforts on Twitter. Because of the massive layoffs and org-chart chaos, Twitter is unable to adequately address the attacks, causing catastrophic breaches, loss of personal information, or extended outages.

2. A stripped-down trust-and-safety team is unable to deal with government subpoenas or complex law-enforcement requests. A bare-bones team might, for example, accidentally assist outside efforts to identify anonymous dissidents and activists in foreign countries.

3. The trust-and-safety team is unable to stop coordinated efforts from fraudsters orchestrating low-level scams. Similarly, a strapped trust-and-safety department is unable to combat or monitor child-sexual-abuse material, sex-trafficking efforts, nonconsensual pornography, and copyright violations.

4. An inexperienced engineer pushes some buggy code and part of the site’s functionality goes down, but the people with expertise in that area of site reliability are not there to help restore it.

5. Musk does indeed roll back Twitter’s content-moderation rules and reduces tools for monitoring and reporting abuse on the platform. As Kate Klonick, an associate professor at St. John’s University Law School who studies content moderation, argued recently, a lack of speech governance, or a dismantled trust-and-safety apparatus, will result in a bad product, less engagement, lower ad revenue for the company, and, ultimately, more radicalized communities.

How Elon Musk Could Actually Kill Twitter

There’s more than one way to sink a social network.

www.theatlantic.com

Also had this money quote:

"The tech journalist Ryan Broderick suggested in his newsletter that “Twitter has never been able to deal with the fact its users both hate using it and also hate each other."