I don't' know why people take Russia's bluffing so seriously
They got tricked in WW3 talk
Gas attack in Syria kills dozens: US forces launch strike on Shayrat Airbase in Homs (4+ dead)
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They got tricked in WW3 talk
thatrapsfan
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Why would Saddam gas the Kurds in Halabja? It doesnt make tactical sense 
This doesn't add up He has the suppor of the Gulf States, the U.S. and the French? What does he gain? *Social media and the internet in the 80's*
This doesn't add up He has the suppor of the Gulf States, the U.S. and the French? What does he gain? *Social media and the internet in the 80's*Why would Saddam gas the Kurds in Halabja? It doesnt make tactical sense
thatrapsfan
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The Obama Doctrine, R.I.P.
Good piece comparing Obama and Trump's approach to Syria.
But now that the playbook is back off the shelf and in use, it is worth considering just why Obama was so hesitant to confront Syria, and its sponsors in Moscow and Tehran, militarily. In 2013, Obama feared, not without justification, the second- and third-order consequences of an American missile strike on the regime. Even before he became president, Obama worried greatly about slippery slopes in the Middle East. In Syria, he understood that Assad would most likely survive an American missile strike on his airbases; the day after such strikes ended, Assad, Obama believed, would have emerged from his hiding place, and declared victory: The greatest power in the world tried to destroy him, and failed. Obama was acutely aware that a one-off strike (a theoretical strike described as “unbelievably small” by his secretary of state, John Kerry), could possibly have served as a convincing brush-back pitch, but he was also aware that such a limited strike could have been wholly ineffectual, and even counterproductive. Assad and his allies, understanding that the appetite of average Americans for yet another Middle Eastern war was limited, could have tried to provoke Obama into escalation. An all-out war against the Syrian regime would have been, in many ways, Obama’s Iraq. And Obama wasn’t interested in having his own Iraq.
The curious thing is that Donald Trump is also not interested in having his own Iraq. And yet here he is. Obama was known for an overly cerebral commitment to the notion of strategic patience. Trump seems more committed to a policy of glandular, non-strategic impatience. Obama may have been paralyzed by a phobic reaction to the threat posed by the slippery slope. Donald Trump now finds himself dancing at the edge of the slippery slope his predecessor so assiduously avoided.
Good piece comparing Obama and Trump's approach to Syria.
But now that the playbook is back off the shelf and in use, it is worth considering just why Obama was so hesitant to confront Syria, and its sponsors in Moscow and Tehran, militarily. In 2013, Obama feared, not without justification, the second- and third-order consequences of an American missile strike on the regime. Even before he became president, Obama worried greatly about slippery slopes in the Middle East. In Syria, he understood that Assad would most likely survive an American missile strike on his airbases; the day after such strikes ended, Assad, Obama believed, would have emerged from his hiding place, and declared victory: The greatest power in the world tried to destroy him, and failed. Obama was acutely aware that a one-off strike (a theoretical strike described as “unbelievably small” by his secretary of state, John Kerry), could possibly have served as a convincing brush-back pitch, but he was also aware that such a limited strike could have been wholly ineffectual, and even counterproductive. Assad and his allies, understanding that the appetite of average Americans for yet another Middle Eastern war was limited, could have tried to provoke Obama into escalation. An all-out war against the Syrian regime would have been, in many ways, Obama’s Iraq. And Obama wasn’t interested in having his own Iraq.
The curious thing is that Donald Trump is also not interested in having his own Iraq. And yet here he is. Obama was known for an overly cerebral commitment to the notion of strategic patience. Trump seems more committed to a policy of glandular, non-strategic impatience. Obama may have been paralyzed by a phobic reaction to the threat posed by the slippery slope. Donald Trump now finds himself dancing at the edge of the slippery slope his predecessor so assiduously avoided.
Obama knows he fukked up in 2013 too.
These fukkin senators are adamant about this going to war shyt. We're fukked
MVike28
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Why would Saddam gas the Kurds in Halabja? It doesnt make tactical sense
so are you gonna hop on trumps dikk? for consistency's sake, of courseRussia fell back so hard
Yo he's all over the place with his views. Arm chair general assso are you gonna hop on trumps dikk? for consistency's sake, of course
@4d 6f 6e 65 79 has little to no integrity when it comes to defending his stancesYo he's all over the place with his views. Arm chair general ass
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