‘Game Of Thrones’ Spinoff ‘House Of The Dragons’ Gets Straight To Series Go-Ahead From HBO

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As I remember fire and blood, he did most of his damage after the dance of the dragons. So, what, spinoff maybe??:ohhh:

The nine voyages of the targaryean cousin.


Hmm? needs work.
 
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fukk this spinoff. Not fukking with GoT until all the books release.
 

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White people are so ridiculous. This is why I prefer shows about Ancient Rome. Almost all of those shows will have blacks, biracials, middle eastern people and arabs, and eurasians in the cast somewhere. Because it was acknowledged that Rome was a melting pot. Greek movies have similar diversity too. But when you get into feudal Europe they think the entire continent somehow turned lily white 500 years later. There has always been people traveling to different continents, enough to justify writing a character being a different race. And this sh*t isn’t even real or based on actual European history. Westeros is fake. You can just say his line was from a 3rd or 4th son who wouldn’t inherit anything, so they moved to the Summer Isles, married a black chick and had biracial kids and black grandkids. How difficult is that?
 

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White people are so ridiculous. This is why I prefer shows about Ancient Rome. Almost all of those shows will have blacks, biracials, middle eastern people and arabs, and eurasians in the cast somewhere. Because it was acknowledged that Rome was a melting pot. Greek movies have similar diversity too. But when you get into feudal Europe they think the entire continent somehow turned lily white 500 years later. There has always been people traveling to different continents, enough to justify writing a character being a different race. And this sh*t isn’t even real or based on actual European history. Westeros is fake. You can just say his line was from a 3rd or 4th son who wouldn’t inherit anything, so they moved to the Summer Isles, married a black chick and had biracial kids and black grandkids. How difficult is that?

Joe Abercrombie's books are eurocentric too but he's one of the few fantasy authors I know about that make the effort to not make their world 100% CACed out.

I hope him and the Malazan authors get their work picked up for TV or the big screen one day.
 

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White people are so ridiculous. This is why I prefer shows about Ancient Rome. Almost all of those shows will have blacks, biracials, middle eastern people and arabs, and eurasians in the cast somewhere. Because it was acknowledged that Rome was a melting pot. Greek movies have similar diversity too. But when you get into feudal Europe they think the entire continent somehow turned lily white 500 years later. There has always been people traveling to different continents, enough to justify writing a character being a different race. And this sh*t isn’t even real or based on actual European history. Westeros is fake. You can just say his line was from a 3rd or 4th son who wouldn’t inherit anything, so they moved to the Summer Isles, married a black chick and had biracial kids and black grandkids. How difficult is that?
Its based on the war of the roses, between the ruling families of Lancaster and York. Are their any last names on the show that sound like those two?
Wars of the Roses - Wikipedia
 

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Its based on the war of the roses, between the ruling families of Lancaster and York. Are their any last names on the show that sound like those two?
Wars of the Roses - Wikipedia

Only towards the end when you get into Robert’s Rebellion. He mixed in the War of the Roses with the Iliad. The Lannisters are the Warwicks (Richard Warwick was the kingmaker in real life like Tywin). The Baratheons are the Yorks (in real life there were three brothers, one a drunk, one a weakling, one who killed his own family and called them illegitimate). The Targaryens are the Plantagents/Lancasters (the previous dynasty that ruled for centuries who lost to the Yorks (Baratheons) but later produced a King that came back for the throne and avenged the family name. That was Henry Tudor, who became Henry the VII, King of England. He was gender bent to become Dany in the books). The Starks are the Woodvilles, the Warwicks (Lannisters) hated them and killed their father in real life (think Ned). The daughter was married to the previous York King but wasn’t liked because of her background (think Rhaegar and Lyanna). Just like Cersei didn’t like Lyanna considering her to be some bumpkin from the North. Their daughter was Elizabeth of York, both Woodville (Stark) and York (I know I said the Yorks were Baratheon but the comparison fits for having a Royal/King father), so Henry Tudor married her when he took back the throne to unite the York and Plantagenet/Lancaster bloodlines and end the wars for good. Alot of people thought Sansa was inspired by her but really Elizabeth of York was gender bent in the show to be Jon Snow. It would’ve tied up nicely had Dany and Jon married but the show took a swerve). You have to really dig to find the comparisons because he mixed and mashed multiple people and multiple stories together and switched details around but the links are there. The real life stories are much more dope though.
 
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Only towards the end when you get into Robert’s Rebellion. He mixed in the War of the Roses with the Iliad. The Lannisters are the Warwicks (Richard Warwick was the kingmaker in real life like Tywin). The Baratheons are the Yorks (in real life there were three brothers, one a drunk, one a weakling, one who killed his own family and called them illegitimate). The Targaryens are the Plantagents/Lancasters (the previous dynasty that ruled for centuries who lost to the Yorks (Baratheons) but later produced a King that came back for the throne and avenged the family name. That was Henry Tudor, who became Henry the VII, King of England. He was gender bent to become Dany in the books). The Starks are the Woodvilles, the Warwicks (Lannisters) hated them and killed their father in real life (think Ned). The daughter was married to the previous York King but wasn’t liked because of her background (think Rhaegar and Lyanna). Just like Cersei didn’t like Lyanna considering her to be some bumpkin from the North. Their daughter was Elizabeth of York, both Woodville (Stark) and York (I know I said the Yorks were Baratheon but the comparison fits for having a Royal/King father), so Henry Tudor married her when he took back the throne to unite the York and Plantagenet/Lancaster bloodlines and end the wars for good. Alot of people thought Sansa was inspired by her but really Elizabeth of York was gender bent in the show to be Jon Snow. It would’ve tied up nicely had Dany and Jon married but the show took a swerve). You have to really dig to find the comparisons because he mixed and mashed multiple people and multiple stories together and switched details around but the links are there. The real life stories are much more dope though.
All that is right here, they shoved thirty years in one season


I'm still mad I never got to read the Iliad in high school, best book ever written, considering technically its the first book. Diomedes was a beast. He's basically Tormund.
 

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White people are so ridiculous. This is why I prefer shows about Ancient Rome. Almost all of those shows will have blacks, biracials, middle eastern people and arabs, and eurasians in the cast somewhere. Because it was acknowledged that Rome was a melting pot. Greek movies have similar diversity too. But when you get into feudal Europe they think the entire continent somehow turned lily white 500 years later. There has always been people traveling to different continents, enough to justify writing a character being a different race. And this sh*t isn’t even real or based on actual European history. Westeros is fake. You can just say his line was from a 3rd or 4th son who wouldn’t inherit anything, so they moved to the Summer Isles, married a black chick and had biracial kids and black grandkids. How difficult is that?

The planet is partially mapped out. Martin basically copied our Earth's setup brother, there are blacks, asians, etc. However, we just haven't had a chance to travel to that part of the world yet. And trust me, all of the other continents sound way way more interesting than Westeros.

 

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All that is right here, they shoved thirty years in one season


I'm still mad I never got to read the Iliad in high school, best book ever written, considering technically its the first book. Diomedes was a beast. He's basically Tormund.


That was my show :obama: Yep, all of it is in this show. You watch it and you can immediately pick out where GRRM got inspiration for his books. The Iliad is super dope too. Lyanna takes some inspiration from Helen of Troy, except instead of being the conventional beautiful dime, she’s the wild savage warrior chick from the North. Rhaegar is the noble prince Hector. Robert in his prime takes inspiration from Achilles but also from Menelaus who was married to Helen. Rhaegar’s kids were thrown from the walls like Hector’s kids :mjcry: even Aerys is inspired by Priam of Troy but instead of being the great king everyone loved and respected, he was a lunatic tyrant who didn’t groom himself and liked burning people. GRRM would be the GOAT if he knew how to finish a series.
 
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