FYI, the whole alpha male thing is a myth made up from erroneous ecological research on wolves

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For those arguing that that alpha/beta personality archetypes are real can you point me to any tangible and definitive studies completed by a reputable group or person in the last 30 years

Or are we going to continue to base this stuff on anecdotal experience and "feelings"

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For those arguing that that alpha/beta personality archetypes are real can you point me to any tangible and definitive studies completed by a reputable group or person in the last 30 years

Or are we going to continue to base this stuff on anecdotal experience and "feelings"

:jbhmm:
Like I said nikkas really think they're smart when they're just a fukking google whore. Don't live life off the net smfh
 

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Anyone who uses the terms alpha, beta, cuck, sheep or drones unironically can have their opinions safely dismissed. Internet loser shyt.
I think that's funny you said this while saying unironically lol. I don't hear many black people use that term but white boys online though. Yep all day
 

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Like I said nikkas really think they're smart when they're just a fukking google whore. Don't live life off the net smfh

I'm asking because perspective is just one part of what makes up the facts and it can often be skewed and completely false because of life experience. Data and study allow for more detail and can remove the bias we all deal with because of our personal experience.

People thought the earth was flat because of perspective, we know it's a sphere because of science and data.

I've googled this several times and for a talking point that's been used since the 70s its interesting that all the definitive studies I've read about it point to it being false.

But believe what you want, if there is a true human study that isn't based on some guy trying to sell some marketing tool please post it. I'd like to read it.
 

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I mean yeah there's no strong scientific basis. But they do describe real life phenomena albeit in a very simplistic way.

The terms just seem like corny speak for men that are more "manly" and men that aren't manly (and are instead "soft" and sensitive).

We can't act like there aren't distinct pockets of men. I mean, look at how most older male virgins, incels, etc. All have VERY similar traits: social awkwardness, sensitivity, physical weakness, low self-esteem, shyness, low confidence, timidity, etc.

"Alpha" is usually just shorthand term meant to refer to guys who are "the man", usually very confident, assertive, has leadership qualities, isn't too sensitive, usually strong, and is taken seriously and respected by peers. Think of the most popular dude in your high school.

Obviously it changes by context. :yeshrug:

In short: alpha is a man that meets most markers of masculinity, and is treated and rewarded as such. (He is respected, and gets perks).

A "beta" is someone who doesn't meet those marks, and thus is either disrespected, ignored, or fails to get any perks.
 
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If nikkas can identify as women and it’s backed up by modern science and psychology
nikkas can be alpha males too
 

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I think that's funny you said this while saying unironically lol. I don't hear many black people use that term but white boys online though. Yep all day
We all not a monolith, breh. Plus, the word is so useful. Was the only breh in my undergrad history department's graduating class, heard those history honor society nerd cacs use the above mentioned words, like all the fukking time. To borrow a cac phrase, "that shyt really grinds my gears."
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Just thought I shared cause when I started seeing brehs on here talking that “alpha male/beta male” bullshyt years ago I knew this site was headed to incel/cacland.

Basically the whole “alpha male” thing came from a 1970 paper about how wolf packs are led by “alpha males” who establish dominance through physical aggression.

It has been suggested that this be taken to apply to humans, being that wolves are not that far from humans on the evolutionary tree and exhibit similar social behaviors.

And this concept has been co-opted by white internet losers to create pseudointellectual explanations for their insecurities and failures. It makes it easier and digestible to understand any they don’t get any p*ssy or just are not where they want to be life, or conversely that they’re something special just because they do think they possess “alpha male” traits or aspire to. There is an immutable, predetermined hierarchy of masculinity and that explains everything that is uncomfortable.

Only problem it wasn’t true and the writer of the original paper has detracted it. The wolf pack leaders weren’t wolves who earned leadership by winning fights. They were just the parents.

There's no such thing as an alpha male



All this “beta male” “alpha male” stuff is low esteem insecure little dikk cac shyt. You see this concept in action with Trump supporters. These MAGAs tuck their nuts and subordinate themselves to Trump cause they see him as an alpha, and they happily follow him in their beta role. And they guy they consider an alpha is in fact a trust find baby draft dodger who has probably never been in a fight in his life. But they subordinate themselves to him largely because he projects a false aura of strength or masculinity they see lacking in themselves, or under attack from outside forces. Some coli posters are the same with Tariq Nasheed. Get off that cac/red pill/MGTOW shyt. Stand on your own two, respect yourself. That is all.
No it isnt, its real, use your eyes common sense and street smarts they not lying to you

i dont know why people are trying to hard to “disprove” something that has existed from the beginning of time, its not happening
 

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I do think there is a clear difference in men who take control in their lives and men who are pushovers. But it’s a big ass gray area it’s not exactly black and white. I just live my life with principles and a code and don’t give a fukk about the next man. Whatever that makes me, so be it :yeshrug:
Not giving a fukk alone makes you alpha. The majority of people care what others think. That separates you. The OP cares that people thinks he’s a bytch. Therefore he made this goofy ass thread.
 
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