Full Post-Ether Interview with an Emotional Jay Z on Hot 97

[Bxblaze]

Jay sounded hurt ... He made himself look like the loser out of it

 

[Urbanmiracle]

Nas came out with the science. He got into Jays soul. All jay did was talk about smashing his baby moms who he wasn't even with at the time. So yea it was sloppy seconds. It's understandable if nas was still with her but he wasn't. He moved on but jay like a child was on some hahaha I smashed a girl you had on some real fan boy shyt. Nas didn't give a fukk.


Only little boys and teenagers would say super ugly had better dissed than Ether or eye for an eye or Stillmatic freestyle.

 

[smoking man]

so how did nas end up working with jay after the babyseat line??

 

[Klos2God]

so how did nas end up working with jay after the babyseat line??

"Wanted to be on every last one of my classics"

 

[smoking man]

"Wanted to be on every last one of my classics"

what?

 

[Big Boss]

What people have to understand is that the way Nas handled the entire battle, from start to finish, is what ultimately led to him not only winning, but being PERCIEVED overall as the victor. Jay-Z's Takeover is a classic diss record, hell like be said himself its a "figure four leg lock" a lessor MC DOES NOT come back from Takeover (I.e. Prodigy)

But Jay-Z did NOT PREPARE himself to go 12 rounds. Chalk this up to arrogance, over-confidence, thinking he had the golden bullet in smashing Carmen, or what have you.

Nas took all "surprise" out of the "you know who did you know what" line in a Source interview MONTHS before Ether-Superugly when he candidly explained that that specific line was code for "I banged your baby mother". People tend to rewrite history either due to ignorance or lack of proper research but Nas was NOT somewhere being quiet as a church mouse while people were hailing him as "dead". The TRUTH of the matter is that within two weeks of Jay's SummerJam call out Nas dropped the Stillmatic freestyle. The Stillmatic freestyle is what caused Jay to write the additional bars going at Nas on Takeover (he explains this in a 2009 XXL cover story on the Making Of Blueprint) Nas admitted that he really gave no fukks about Jay's Summer Jam diss, but the streets were buzzing and Jungle wouldn't allow him NOT to respond (he speaks on this in both the MTV Sway interview he and Jay did jointly in 2005 as well as his recent Behind The Music episode) so he responded.

Nas already showed he was ready for war but he didn't show his BEST hand until A). It was time for Stillmatic to drop and it was on HIS terms and B). The initial hype from Takeover's early year release died down. Then he dropped his napalm bomb....

The Hot 97 poll was actually MUCH more in Nas's favor according to Fat Joe, who was there at Hot 97 the day the poll was going on, he claims that Angie was screening calls in Jay's favor so that it wouldn't be lopsided. Take that as you will...

Jay was, according Beanie Sigel, stumbled by Ether. He couldn't come up with a response. According to Irv Gotti, Jay was depressed becuase people were shouting out "fukk JAY-Z!" At him as SOON as Ether dropped. Again, Jay wasn't ready for REAL WAR. It was Irv who lit the fire under Jay to record Super ugly as fast as possible to have a response out there to attempt to stem the tide in Nas's favor.

After Super ugly failed to gain proper traction and the poll was conducted, New York decided that Nas won. Jay immediately went on his pity party spree while Nas went into boss mode. The two concurrent interviews are widely available to listen too, we all know how each MC hanged themselves during this period. Jay HANDLED HIMSELF like a loser, which is if that's how your going to portray YOURSELF is how others are going to view you.

Nas didnt get overly emotional until a year later, when hot 97 wouldn't allow him to hang the Jay-Z robot. Again, he was more angry at the Hot 97 bias then he was at Jay. The video has recently leaked of what the hanging would've entailed, its clear that Nas was going for the end of Jay's career. For better or worse, it didn't go down and we got the infamous Power 105 rant. Again LISTENING to the interview Nas's beef is clearly with Hot 97, he disses Flex (take the cizzock out his mizzouth) Angie (she's getting slaughtered in the ratings, they begged me to come up there to save her job) and their payola system. He wasn't stuttering and stammering about "did I deserve that?" Or how "vulgar" it was or any of that. Its actually one of his more clear and precise interviews of that time...


Again all.of this is to show that attitude and the way one carries themselves had just as much impact on the outcome of that battle as did the actual disses. Nas handled himself almost perfectly in the way he mapped out the battle. Jay didn't have anything left after Takeover, he played his best hand and thought it was a wrap, which was ultimately to his detriment.

The REAL fascinating aspect of this entire thing is that both Jay-Z and Nas were such phenomenonal MC's that BOTH could survive wh wouldve been career killers for other rappers. THATS why in the end its the greatest battle of all time, because even though there was indeed a clear winner (Nas) the loser (Jay) didn't really LOSE anything but some cool points and a few knocks off his ego. Both of them dropped classics afterwards and have since reconciled and gone on to bigger and better things for the betterment of the genre and culture..

#TPC

i believe that to be true

 

[Da King]

i believe that to be true

The 58% number seemed just to make jay feel better


Still haven't met one person in real life that thought jay won or thought take over was a better diss

 

[machine01]

Ether was the first song I heard out of the whole feud.

How anyone could even say that "Takeover" was the better song or diss is beyond me.

It's just a better piece of music in all facets, period.

 

[Klos2God]

Its comical to see Jay stans try to remotely defend this... Yeah that nicca rich as fukk but he needs heart burn meds every time he see's Nas...

 

[PiffMOE7000]

...............

 

[UserNameless]

It's like he's soul was literally burning slow and he couldn't grasp what had happened to him.

So true.

Think about somebody in your profession/craft/whatever that you truly admire, and this person has had a real influence on how you do what you do...

Putting all the financial success aside, you want this person to respect you as an ARTIST like him (not all that fake "I like him because he is a good businessman/hustler garbage), basically your soul needs this person to validate your craft, and put his stamp of approval on it...You need this happen...

So you make attempts to collaborate and break bread with your "artistic hero," and you have all money in the world to make this happen...

Unfortunately, this person rejects you...Over time you become bitter, and when you reach the height of your popularity in the game, you start thinking to yourself, "F+ck him, I am rich, I am the hottest thing right now, I can destroy this person, everybody loves me"

So, You go on a full out war with this person, and instead of you getting the best of him, he exposes your true identity, and the useless motive for this beef...

He reminds you that even with all the financial success you have, he is still your father, and he can spank you whenever he wishes, because ARTISTICALLY, you are still not on his level, and to make matters worse, the public agrees with him...

To understand why "Ether" is so effective, you have to think about it this way...

Look at what is happening with the Muslims and Jews, it is because of "Ether" a.k.a rejection from somebody you admire and respect...

Have you read "The Great Gatsby" that's another example of why the theme of "Ether" is so effective...

Have you watched "Casino" DeNiro was in love with Sharon Stone's character and willing to give her everything she wanted, but she rejected him for some no good loser, again, this why the theme of "Ether" is so effective...

If you don't understand why "Ether" is so "vulgar" and demoralizing, thank your fortune, because people who have felt it know how deeply it hurts...

It burns the soul...

...Powerful.


*sniff*



*sniff*


Smells the stench of burning soul wafting...

 

[Gravity]

No he's not...he's telling it damn near exactly like it happened...hot 97 having favortism towards Jay was a pure fact...even other artists at the time spoke about it...and yes Jay was emotional after Ether...it was confirmed by Fat Man Scoop..who said Jay wouldnt even speak to him for 4 years cause he outright said he felt Ether was the better diss...and Irv GottI said that Jay would come in his office everyday and would just sit and talk cause he was kinda depressed about the whole Ether shyt and how people was treating him...he said that he's the one who told him to do SuperUgly but it was supposed to be so Jay could get shyt off his chest cause of how he was feelin at the time...I dont know if u from NY or not...but Hot 97 was on the bullshyt from the start till the end of that battle...and Jay legit lost cause other radio stations did a poll as well and Jay got swept across the board. .and it wasnt bout rooting for the underdog like these lames try to rewrite history and say cause everyone counted Nas out...but even nikkas who was so called die hard Jay fans who I would argue wit about Jay not bein the best even before the battle even gave it to Nas...Nas took a lot of Jay's fans around that time and that's the dead ass truth...Jay couldnt handle the disrespect...

You're nothing but a Nas fanboy too, 1 of the biggest in fact. The problem is that you Nas fanboys are still cheerleading. The battle has long been over, take the tennis skirt off and put the pom poms down. The reason that these Nas-Jay discussions always devolve into lame stan-wars is because you Nas fans can't stand seeing someone with an opposing opinion. If you get offended because you see someone say that they think that Jay won then check yourself because you're a lame. I don't agree with you cats and you're not going to convince me that I'm "wrong" and you're "right". My opinion isn't changing so miss me with all that BS about Jay being emotional and Nas winning radio polls, I couldn't care less. I'm not a "popular opinion" type of guy. My opinion is based on the music/lyrics, and if you're going to debate me then that's what you need to talk about.

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

Calling someone "cockafella" is worse than fukking his wive and exposing nas as a fake gangster?

Yeah but mocking a man for naming his company after a dead friend is

 

[smoking man]

nas lost... i think its safe to say...

 

[spliz]

You're nothing but a Nas fanboy too, 1 of the biggest in fact. The problem is that you Nas fanboys are still cheerleading. The battle has long been over, take the tennis skirt off and put the pom poms down. The reason that these Nas-Jay discussions always devolve into lame stan-wars is because you Nas fans can't stand seeing someone with an opposing opinion. If you get offended because you see someone say that they think that Jay won then check yourself because you're a lame. I don't agree with you cats and you're not going to convince me that I'm "wrong" and you're "right". My opinion isn't changing so miss me with all that BS about Jay being emotional and Nas winning radio polls, I couldn't care less. I'm not a "popular opinion" type of guy. My opinion is based on the music/lyrics, and if you're going to debate me then that's what you need to talk about.

Blah blah blah..shut the fukk up nikka...everything I spit was unbiased facts from being around at the time and from people who was around the station and knew Jay personally...im a fan of Jay..now u can go on a tangent about all that extra shyt all u want to...ive been on record on this site defending Jay im not no bullshyt poster nikka...so bring that shyt somewhere else...u the one who has a problem with other peoples opinions...which is why u running around callin everyone a fanboy who dont share urs..which is an unpopular one in the first place ..if the roles was reversed u would STILL be defending Jay...u have alotta nerve to call anyone a fanboy ..