even memphis bleek said it was a quiet day at Roc A Fella Records
Full Post-Ether Interview with an Emotional Jay Z on Hot 97
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That's why I don't understand with guys here.
Jay-z cried on the radio
Bleek admitted it was a quiet day at Roc
The streets voted for Ether
but nooooooo, Jay won
THIS x 1,000,000
PIFF101
Bring back the Golden Era
That's why I don't understand with guys here.
Jay-z cried on the radio
Bleek admitted it was a quiet day at Roc
The streets voted for Ether
but nooooooo, Jay won
That's my G.O.A.T.
Forreal Nas won!
Check the facts above.
Ya, Jigga sounded like OSU fans after last weekend...
(Gets in OSU shots early, before Meyer crushes the buildings)
Ya, Jigga sounded like OSU fans after last weekend...
(Gets in OSU shots early, before Meyer crushes the buildings)
Still hurts
Still hurts
I want to be sympathetic to your L @Buckeye Fever. But knowing what Urban is building at OSU, and the likely hood of you guys going to be in the BCS Championship game. And knowing how unbearable you are going to become come College football season.
I am going to enjoy your L... :KDotahh:
quack quack quack
(I lost a shyt load of money on that OSU Wichita State game. OSU football is going to make it back for me this year)
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What people have to understand is that the way Nas handled the entire battle, from start to finish, is what ultimately led to him not only winning, but being PERCIEVED overall as the victor. Jay-Z's Takeover is a classic diss record, hell like be said himself its a "figure four leg lock" a lessor MC DOES NOT come back from Takeover (I.e. Prodigy)
But Jay-Z did NOT PREPARE himself to go 12 rounds. Chalk this up to arrogance, over-confidence, thinking he had the golden bullet in smashing Carmen, or what have you.
Nas took all "surprise" out of the "you know who did you know what" line in a Source interview MONTHS before Ether-Superugly when he candidly explained that that specific line was code for "I banged your baby mother". People tend to rewrite history either due to ignorance or lack of proper research but Nas was NOT somewhere being quiet as a church mouse while people were hailing him as "dead". The TRUTH of the matter is that within two weeks of Jay's SummerJam call out Nas dropped the Stillmatic freestyle. The Stillmatic freestyle is what caused Jay to write the additional bars going at Nas on Takeover (he explains this in a 2009 XXL cover story on the Making Of Blueprint) Nas admitted that he really gave no fukks about Jay's Summer Jam diss, but the streets were buzzing and Jungle wouldn't allow him NOT to respond (he speaks on this in both the MTV Sway interview he and Jay did jointly in 2005 as well as his recent Behind The Music episode) so he responded.
Nas already showed he was ready for war but he didn't show his BEST hand until A). It was time for Stillmatic to drop and it was on HIS terms and B). The initial hype from Takeover's early year release died down. Then he dropped his napalm bomb....
The Hot 97 poll was actually MUCH more in Nas's favor according to Fat Joe, who was there at Hot 97 the day the poll was going on, he claims that Angie was screening calls in Jay's favor so that it wouldn't be lopsided. Take that as you will...
Jay was, according Beanie Sigel, stumbled by Ether. He couldn't come up with a response. According to Irv Gotti, Jay was depressed becuase people were shouting out "fukk JAY-Z!" At him as SOON as Ether dropped. Again, Jay wasn't ready for REAL WAR. It was Irv who lit the fire under Jay to record Super ugly as fast as possible to have a response out there to attempt to stem the tide in Nas's favor.
After Super ugly failed to gain proper traction and the poll was conducted, New York decided that Nas won. Jay immediately went on his pity party spree while Nas went into boss mode. The two concurrent interviews are widely available to listen too, we all know how each MC hanged themselves during this period. Jay HANDLED HIMSELF like a loser, which is if that's how your going to portray YOURSELF is how others are going to view you.
Nas didnt get overly emotional until a year later, when hot 97 wouldn't allow him to hang the Jay-Z robot. Again, he was more angry at the Hot 97 bias then he was at Jay. The video has recently leaked of what the hanging would've entailed, its clear that Nas was going for the end of Jay's career. For better or worse, it didn't go down and we got the infamous Power 105 rant. Again LISTENING to the interview Nas's beef is clearly with Hot 97, he disses Flex (take the cizzock out his mizzouth) Angie (she's getting slaughtered in the ratings, they begged me to come up there to save her job) and their payola system. He wasn't stuttering and stammering about "did I deserve that?" Or how "vulgar" it was or any of that. Its actually one of his more clear and precise interviews of that time...
Again all.of this is to show that attitude and the way one carries themselves had just as much impact on the outcome of that battle as did the actual disses. Nas handled himself almost perfectly in the way he mapped out the battle. Jay didn't have anything left after Takeover, he played his best hand and thought it was a wrap, which was ultimately to his detriment.
The REAL fascinating aspect of this entire thing is that both Jay-Z and Nas were such phenomenonal MC's that BOTH could survive wh wouldve been career killers for other rappers. THATS why in the end its the greatest battle of all time, because even though there was indeed a clear winner (Nas) the loser (Jay) didn't really LOSE anything but some cool points and a few knocks off his ego. Both of them dropped classics afterwards and have since reconciled and gone on to bigger and better things for the betterment of the genre and culture..
#TPC
But Jay-Z did NOT PREPARE himself to go 12 rounds. Chalk this up to arrogance, over-confidence, thinking he had the golden bullet in smashing Carmen, or what have you.
Nas took all "surprise" out of the "you know who did you know what" line in a Source interview MONTHS before Ether-Superugly when he candidly explained that that specific line was code for "I banged your baby mother". People tend to rewrite history either due to ignorance or lack of proper research but Nas was NOT somewhere being quiet as a church mouse while people were hailing him as "dead". The TRUTH of the matter is that within two weeks of Jay's SummerJam call out Nas dropped the Stillmatic freestyle. The Stillmatic freestyle is what caused Jay to write the additional bars going at Nas on Takeover (he explains this in a 2009 XXL cover story on the Making Of Blueprint) Nas admitted that he really gave no fukks about Jay's Summer Jam diss, but the streets were buzzing and Jungle wouldn't allow him NOT to respond (he speaks on this in both the MTV Sway interview he and Jay did jointly in 2005 as well as his recent Behind The Music episode) so he responded.
Nas already showed he was ready for war but he didn't show his BEST hand until A). It was time for Stillmatic to drop and it was on HIS terms and B). The initial hype from Takeover's early year release died down. Then he dropped his napalm bomb....
The Hot 97 poll was actually MUCH more in Nas's favor according to Fat Joe, who was there at Hot 97 the day the poll was going on, he claims that Angie was screening calls in Jay's favor so that it wouldn't be lopsided. Take that as you will...
Jay was, according Beanie Sigel, stumbled by Ether. He couldn't come up with a response. According to Irv Gotti, Jay was depressed becuase people were shouting out "fukk JAY-Z!" At him as SOON as Ether dropped. Again, Jay wasn't ready for REAL WAR. It was Irv who lit the fire under Jay to record Super ugly as fast as possible to have a response out there to attempt to stem the tide in Nas's favor.
After Super ugly failed to gain proper traction and the poll was conducted, New York decided that Nas won. Jay immediately went on his pity party spree while Nas went into boss mode. The two concurrent interviews are widely available to listen too, we all know how each MC hanged themselves during this period. Jay HANDLED HIMSELF like a loser, which is if that's how your going to portray YOURSELF is how others are going to view you.
Nas didnt get overly emotional until a year later, when hot 97 wouldn't allow him to hang the Jay-Z robot. Again, he was more angry at the Hot 97 bias then he was at Jay. The video has recently leaked of what the hanging would've entailed, its clear that Nas was going for the end of Jay's career. For better or worse, it didn't go down and we got the infamous Power 105 rant. Again LISTENING to the interview Nas's beef is clearly with Hot 97, he disses Flex (take the cizzock out his mizzouth) Angie (she's getting slaughtered in the ratings, they begged me to come up there to save her job) and their payola system. He wasn't stuttering and stammering about "did I deserve that?" Or how "vulgar" it was or any of that. Its actually one of his more clear and precise interviews of that time...
Again all.of this is to show that attitude and the way one carries themselves had just as much impact on the outcome of that battle as did the actual disses. Nas handled himself almost perfectly in the way he mapped out the battle. Jay didn't have anything left after Takeover, he played his best hand and thought it was a wrap, which was ultimately to his detriment.
The REAL fascinating aspect of this entire thing is that both Jay-Z and Nas were such phenomenonal MC's that BOTH could survive wh wouldve been career killers for other rappers. THATS why in the end its the greatest battle of all time, because even though there was indeed a clear winner (Nas) the loser (Jay) didn't really LOSE anything but some cool points and a few knocks off his ego. Both of them dropped classics afterwards and have since reconciled and gone on to bigger and better things for the betterment of the genre and culture..
#TPC
Fake_AGent
Pro
Happy Birthday Camel ( Ether Day came early brehs )
For real, Jay should have came back with some dirt from like Cormega or some shyt.
For real, Jay should have came back with some dirt from like Cormega or some shyt.
Jay should have took his time more on a diss than be so emotion based. If BP2 + decent diss lyrics dropped a couple weeks after Ether this whole thing would be different.
So thats why he retired? To get the attention off his faults and recreate himself..Nas had THAT much power.
So thats why he retired? To get the attention off his faults and recreate himself..Nas had THAT much power.
HipHopStan
Top 113 Poster
I'm sure that it's been said in these nine pages, but what about Angie?
She sounds like she's about to cry to and Nas didn't even diss her in the song.
She sounds like she's about to cry to and Nas didn't even diss her in the song.
spliz
SplizThaDon
Funny thing about the pink suit line is Jay has a video up wearin one of the corniest pink outfits a nikka could rock..lol...
spliz
SplizThaDon
No he's not...he's telling it damn near exactly like it happened...hot 97 having favortism towards Jay was a pure fact...even other artists at the time spoke about it...and yes Jay was emotional after Ether...it was confirmed by Fat Man Scoop..who said Jay wouldnt even speak to him for 4 years cause he outright said he felt Ether was the better diss...and Irv GottI said that Jay would come in his office everyday and would just sit and talk cause he was kinda depressed about the whole Ether shyt and how people was treating him...he said that he's the one who told him to do SuperUgly but it was supposed to be so Jay could get shyt off his chest cause of how he was feelin at the time...I dont know if u from NY or not...but Hot 97 was on the bullshyt from the start till the end of that battle...and Jay legit lost cause other radio stations did a poll as well and Jay got swept across the board. .and it wasnt bout rooting for the underdog like these lames try to rewrite history and say cause everyone counted Nas out...but even nikkas who was so called die hard Jay fans who I would argue wit about Jay not bein the best even before the battle even gave it to Nas...Nas took a lot of Jay's fans around that time and that's the dead ass truth...Jay couldnt handle the disrespect...
Is this legit? Or is someone like fukking with it and making him repeat himself over and over again? I never heard this guy stutter like that
Nah....there's no way that's the REAL untouched interview, RIGHT? That BETTER be a remix of someone making fun of him or some shyt.
Nah....there's no way that's the REAL untouched interview, RIGHT? That BETTER be a remix of someone making fun of him or some shyt.
Rufus Dufus
All Star
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