Fueled by Bribes, Somalia’s Election Seen as Milestone of Corruption (Farmaajo is Somali President!)

[Grano-Grano]

Hassan Sheikh has advantages but I'm
seeing so much conflicting reports and the money changing hands

Farmaajo and Sharif want to form a coalition once one of them gets past the 1st round

Farmaajo is the ideal candidate, we need a nationalist running shyt. I'm tired of these spinless pricks backed up by Gaalo. The quicker we can find a populist and re-engage Al Shabaab and neutralize their appeal and then rebuild to go to war with Ethiopia, the better.

 

[thatrapsfan]

Farmaajo is the ideal candidate, we need a nationalist running shyt. I'm tired of these spinless pricks backed up by Gaalo. The quicker we can find a populist and re-engage Al Shabaab and neutralize their appeal and then rebuild to go to war with Ethiopia, the better.

This dude is pumped on the delusional rah-rah nationalism. How on earth do you expect Somalia to operate in the modern world without dealing with "gaalo"? Entire Somali territories combined bring less revenue than Omaha, Nebraska and you think a war with a neighbour that will always be there is a priority.


That 70s war propaganda did a number on Somalis :facelpalm:

 

[theworldismine13]

interesting

 

[Grano-Grano]

This dude is pumped on the delusional rah-rah nationalism. How on earth do you expect Somalia to operate in the modern world without dealing with "gaalo"? Entire Somali territories combined bring less revenue than Omaha, Nebraska and you think a war with a neighbour that will always be there is a priority.


That 70s war propaganda did a number on Somalis :facelpalm:

Ethiopia is a national security threat to all Somalis, whether it be the dams that block our rivers which we depend on for food, to the extra-judicial killings of Somalis in the guise to "fight" terrorism, Ethiopia is a menace to Somalia, they see us as enemies, why shouldn't I? I don't see the threat of fellow Somalis due to clan delusions, I see geo-politics as more interesting. Plus I hate UAE too, they want to dominate and kill our markets in the strategic area we inhabit in the Somali Peninsula. Lastly, AMISOM is still in my capital and Kenya is trying to finesse us for our water rights. Somalia needs a rational nationalist governing it. Somalia needs it's own Mao Zedong, these are perilous times for the homeland.

 

[thatrapsfan]

Ethiopia is a national security threat to all Somalis, whether it be the dams that block our rivers which we depend to kill extra-judicial killings of Somalis in the guise to "fight" terrorism, Ethiopia is a menace to Somalia, they see us as enemies, why shouldn't I? I don't see the threat of fellow Somalis due to clan delusions, I see geo-politics as more interesting. Plus I hate UAE too, they want to dominate and kill our markets in the strategic area we inhabit in the Somali Pennisula. Lastly, AMISOM is still in my capital and Kenya is trying to finesse us for our water rights. Somalia needs a rational nationalist governing it.

There will never be any instance where Somalia will be able to impose its will militarily on Ethiopia which is quadruple its size in population and geography. The Cold War was an anomaly and the size of Somalia's army and build up was entirely because the Horn was considered an area of interest by the Soviets and Americans. Even then, the huge arms buildup and decision to go to war ended up guaranteeing ruin for Somalia.

If you rationally accept that Somalia has to share the region with Ethiopia and cant impose its will through force, then you need to start considering other avenues to pursue its interest. Is the preferred solution a permanent state of war?

There is no instance where Somalia can operate without dealing with foreign powers, regardless of who leads it. Its solely on Somali politicians that the country cant leverage foreign interests to stabilize its politics. Also what do you think will happen after an AMISOM withdrawal? AS would takeover the entire country in few months time. Things would easily get worse.

 

[Max B]

SL parties are subclan coalitions To SL's credit theyve decided to fight their qabil battles in the political arena and have a consensus on security.

No shyt that's why I said somalis. But atleast sland had minority president for 8 years.

 

[Grano-Grano]

There will never be any instance where Somalia will be able to impose its will militarily on Ethiopia which is quadruple its size in population and geography. The Cold War was an anomaly and the size of Somalia's army and build up was entirely because the Horn was considered an area of interest by the Soviets and Americans. Even then, the huge arms buildup and decision to go to war ended up guaranteeing ruin for Somalia.

If you rationally accept that Somalia has to share the region with Ethiopia and cant impose its will through force, then you need to start considering other avenues to pursue its interest. Is the preferred solution a permanent state of war?

There is no instance where Somalia can operate without dealing with foreign powers, regardless of who leads it. Its solely on Somali politicians that the country cant leverage foreign interests to stabilize its politics. Also what do you think will happen after an AMISOM withdrawal? AS would takeover the entire country in few months time. Things would easily get worse.

A weaker Ethiopia is in my interests. A Somali leader with the support of the populace can reduce AS's potency. Anyways. A non habesha govt would be in my interests. Oromos are a useful tool to destabilize your country. An alliance of Egypt, Sudan, and Somalia would isolate your country that again favors my interests. Again, that's what a rational leader would do. IC is easily dealt with by promoting pro business interests while at the same time getting infrastructure from the Chinese bloc. You have no seaport, how can you compete with us? That's why you need a weaker Somalia to use our ports at dirt cheap prices or even for free. It's again disgusting that you're in Berbera without getting checked for it. Again my friend, I'm not on that rah rah shyt, I'm on that Gurey, Sayidka, Siyad Barre wave. Not good for you Ethio-Semities.

 

[thatrapsfan]

A weaker Ethiopia is in my interests. A Somali leader with the support of the populace can reduce AS's potency. Anyways. A non habesha govt would be in my interests. Oromos are a useful tool to destabilize your country. An alliance of Egypt, Sudan, and Somalia would isolate your country that again favors my interests. Again, that's what a rational leader would do. IC is easily dealt with by promoting pro business interests while at the same time getting infrastructure from the Chinese bloc. You have no seaport, how can you compete with us? That's why you need a weaker Somalia to use our ports at dirt cheap prices or even for free. It's again disgusting that you're in Berbera without getting checked for it. Again my friend, I'm not on that rah rah shyt, I'm on that Gurey, Sayidka, Siyad Barre wave. Not good for you Ethio-Semities.

Your country Im not Ethiopian. Take it easy on the internet realpolitik where everything is zero-sum game. The first step to fixing Somalia is acknowledging its limitations. Why would it be in Somalia's interest to blockade the access of the biggest economy in the region to the sea? The whole point of the geographic location being attractive, is to leverage it.

Do you seriously think it's in China's interest to build infrastructure in Somalia that doesnt allow it to access Ethiopia ? The same China that just built a railway from Ethiopia to Djibouti? Ethiopia's political leadership will eventually change but the country, its population, and its economic potential wont. It will always be next door no matter what strategy you pursue. One that's focused on war or tries to take cues from 10 centuries ago or from Barre regime that left country in economic ruin is destined to fail.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Such a tragedy. Turks and Khaleejis will control Somalia.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

A weaker Ethiopia is in my interests. A Somali leader with the support of the populace can reduce AS's potency. Anyways. A non habesha govt would be in my interests. Oromos are a useful tool to destabilize your country. An alliance of Egypt, Sudan, and Somalia would isolate your country that again favors my interests. Again, that's what a rational leader would do. IC is easily dealt with by promoting pro business interests while at the same time getting infrastructure from the Chinese bloc. You have no seaport, how can you compete with us? That's why you need a weaker Somalia to use our ports at dirt cheap prices or even for free. It's again disgusting that you're in Berbera without getting checked for it. Again my friend, I'm not on that rah rah shyt, I'm on that Gurey, Sayidka, Siyad Barre wave. Not good for you Ethio-Semities.

Somalia could make billions by being Ethiopia's access to the sea as their economy/population expands. Don't be pawns to Egyptian/Sudanese interests.

 

[RadaMillz]

Unfortunately the winner has been decided, the neighboring countries and the corrupt politicians want their man Hassan smiley back.

There's no hope.

I don't even know why farmaajo even tries? He stands no chance against ethiopian stooges.

 

[thatrapsfan]

Such a tragedy. Turks and Khaleejis will control Somalia.

Khaleejis aren't really competing with Ethiopians. Saudis invest a ton in Ethiopia and are more interested in it after their recent beef wit Egypt. They don't really have interests that are at odds. Their direct competitors are actually the Turks ( especially the UAE) based on their divide. Regardless the reason Somali politics is a mess has as much to do with Somali politicians. Not the only country in the world that attracts foreign interests.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Khaleejis aren't really competing with Ethiopians. Saudis invest a ton in Ethiopia and are more interested in it after their recent beef wit Egypt. They don't really have interests that are at odds. Their direct competitors are actually the Turks ( especially the UAE) based on their divide. Regardless the reason Somali politics is a mess has as much to do with Somali politicians. Not the only country in the world that attracts foreign interests.

UAE/Qatar are also Khaleejis

 

[FAH1223]

Such a tragedy. Turks and Khaleejis will control Somalia.

To be fair the Turks actually brought something. They renovated the airport, built hospitals and schools and have done more than most countries have done to help the poor Somali people

They want something and it's the potential of oil in the country as Turkey wants cheap energy

The UAE wants to monopolize Dubai Ports all over the place.

Somali politicians are the most useless people on earth

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

To be fair the Turks actually brought something. They renovated the airport, built hospitals and schools and have done more than most countries have done to help the poor Somali people

They want something and it's the potential of oil in the country as Turkey wants cheap energy

The UAE wants to monopolize Dubai Ports all over the place.

Somali politicians are the most useless people on earth

You're right, the Turks have done things. Too bad it means Somalis losing political autonomy for airports, hospitals and schools. Not even the Chinese do that.