Fueled by Bribes, Somalia’s Election Seen as Milestone of Corruption (Farmaajo is Somali President!)

Karb

Veteran
Joined
Nov 20, 2016
Messages
12,295
Reputation
15,985
Daps
73,101
Were looking at 50 years of turmoil.if we manage to survive the first 25 years. We can start looking at ways.in which to reach the status of a developing country.

50 years of turmoil? :Farmajo:

We should be on our way to recovery in a decade if things are managed properly.

People are so pessimistic, but compare the country today to how it was ten years ago and you'll see huge improvements.
 

Tribaligenesis

All Star
Joined
Nov 17, 2016
Messages
2,187
Reputation
1,075
Daps
6,888
50 years of turmoil? :Farmajo:

We should be on our way to recovery in a decade if things are managed properly.

People are so pessimistic, but compare the country today to how it was ten years ago and you'll see huge improvements.

Investment in infrastructure alone will take a good 20 years. I'm actually being optimistic, with the 50 years. We've missed the boat with breaking into the markets during China's ascendancy in the 90's. There are several developmental traps as a country we'd have to overcome first. With Farmaajo's election, we at least have a pragmatist and nationalist,who'll steer the ship in the right direction. However it would entail enforcing policies which in the long term will help the country in regards to growth, but cause a lot of resentment in the process of enforcing it. In any other country, this would not pose as much of an issue, but when we add the potential tinderflash of tribalism, it becomes imperative that any potential dissent be dealt with in the most efficient manner.

I've been back to the motherland a few times, it has hugely improved, but how do improvements made in Mogadishu, translate to improvements made in our countryside? A large proportion of the Mogadishu–Villabruzzi Railway, has been looted. But even that can be alleviated through investment by foreign powers, We'll have to probably look East to China for that. Our location alone makes us a hotbed for geopolitical strife, the UAE,Ethiopia and Kenya will all try to gain a foothold in Somali affairs, through subterfuge and creating dissent within the populace by way of misinformation. Let's not be mistaken here, a strong and stable Somalia could potentially change the power structure in that region, by way of our location and natural resources. But Rome wasn't build in a day and a country that has been ravaged by civil war for nigh on 30 years and still in a precarious situation will have to go though decades of good policy making and iplementation of it to recover.
.
 

FAH1223

Go Wizards, Go Terps, Go Packers!
Staff member
Supporter
Joined
May 16, 2012
Messages
72,229
Reputation
8,197
Daps
218,628
Reppin
WASHINGTON, DC
Investment in infrastructure alone will take a good 20 years. I'm actually being optimistic, with the 50 years. We've missed the boat with breaking into the markets during China's ascendancy in the 90's. There are several developmental traps as a country we'd have to overcome first. With Farmaajo's election, we at least have a pragmatist and nationalist,who'll steer the ship in the right direction. However it would entail enforcing policies which in the long term will help the country in regards to growth, but cause a lot of resentment in the process of enforcing it. In any other country, this would not pose as much of an issue, but when we add the potential tinderflash of tribalism, it becomes imperative that any potential dissent be dealt with in the most efficient manner.

I've been back to the motherland a few times, it has hugely improved, but how do improvements made in Mogadishu, translate to improvements made in our countryside? A large proportion of the Mogadishu–Villabruzzi Railway, has been looted. But even that can be alleviated through investment by foreign powers, We'll have to probably look East to China for that. Our location alone makes us a hotbed for geopolitical strife, the UAE,Ethiopia and Kenya will all try to gain a foothold in Somali affairs, through subterfuge and creating dissent within the populace by way of misinformation. Let's not be mistaken here, a strong and stable Somalia could potentially change the power structure in that region, by way of our location and natural resources. But Rome wasn't build in a day and a country that has been ravaged by civil war for nigh on 30 years and still in a precarious situation will have to go though decades of good policy making and iplementation of it to recover.
.

China built the only highway connecting the major cities in the country in the 1970s

They are concerned with stability because when they do their development projects they bring their people into the country.

With Turkey and China, you get tangible results.

The Arabs and others :camby:

 

thatrapsfan

Superstar
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
17,674
Reputation
1,833
Daps
53,674
Reppin
NULL
China built the only highway connecting the major cities in the country in the 1970s

They are concerned with stability because when they do their development projects they bring their people into the country.

With Turkey and China, you get tangible results.

The Arabs and others :camby:



Anti-Arabism is popular on Somali social media but its reactionary. They are still our top market for our goods and huge percentage of imports into Somalia come through Dubai. Giving their proximity and wealth, we will always be interlinked with the Gulf for better or worse. They will be a source of investment. The point is to better leverage it, its not a zero-sum competition where you should have to choose between one or the other.


Somalis love Trumpist trade concepts :mjgrin:
 

Karb

Veteran
Joined
Nov 20, 2016
Messages
12,295
Reputation
15,985
Daps
73,101
Our location is a blessing and a curse. Too many nations have a say in what goes on in our country and that number just keeps on increasing.

Even langaab Arabs like the UAE and Qatar want their slice of the pie :snoop:

On the bright side, maybe it's a good thing that Ethiopia and Kenya (and by extension the US and the EU) aren't the only players that are politically involved in Somalia.

If managed properly, we could play them against each other and have them compete for access to investment opportunities.

But we'll need a strong, savvy political leadership to be able to pull that off and I have little faith in the neefs we have as politicians.

Maybe the only thing that can save us is a benevolent dictator. Like a Paul Kagame :to:
 

Karb

Veteran
Joined
Nov 20, 2016
Messages
12,295
Reputation
15,985
Daps
73,101
Anti-Arabism is popular on Somali social media but its reactionary. They are still our top market for our goods and huge percentage of imports into Somalia come through Dubai. Giving their proximity and wealth, we will always be interlinked with the Gulf for better or worse. They will be a source of investment. The point is to better leverage it, its not a zero-sum competition where you should have to choose between one or the other.


Somalis love Trumpist trade concepts :mjgrin:

Tbh we need to diversify away from the gulf as our main trade partners. They've been screwing us over for decades.
 

Grano-Grano

The Bando
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
3,685
Reputation
-34
Daps
8,173
Reppin
Skrilla
Somalia needs a dictator. Democracy doesn't work for us and guys what's the word on this new PM? Is he corrupt like the interweb rumors are implying?
 

Tribaligenesis

All Star
Joined
Nov 17, 2016
Messages
2,187
Reputation
1,075
Daps
6,888
China built the only highway connecting the major cities in the country in the 1970s

They are concerned with stability because when they do their development projects they bring their people into the country.

With Turkey and China, you get tangible results.

The Arabs and others :camby:



Agreed, the Arab's are also the main sponsors of terrorism in our region.
 

FAH1223

Go Wizards, Go Terps, Go Packers!
Staff member
Supporter
Joined
May 16, 2012
Messages
72,229
Reputation
8,197
Daps
218,628
Reppin
WASHINGTON, DC
Somalia needs a dictator. Democracy doesn't work for us and guys what's the word on this new PM? Is he corrupt like the interweb rumors are implying?

Hard to say, the UN Monitoring Group and Matt Bryden said he has links with Al-Shabaab

But the UN Monitoring Group report on Khaire hasn't been confirmed..
 

Tribaligenesis

All Star
Joined
Nov 17, 2016
Messages
2,187
Reputation
1,075
Daps
6,888
Hard to say, the UN Monitoring Group and Matt Bryden said he has links with Al-Shabaab

But the UN Monitoring Group report on Khaire hasn't been confirmed..

I would not be surprised. It comes from the age old play book of divide and conquer. Of which oil companies, have been the main beneficiaries, for at least the past century. You only need to look at the Secretary of State. Rex Tillerson.to see the truth in the matter.
 

thatrapsfan

Superstar
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
17,674
Reputation
1,833
Daps
53,674
Reppin
NULL
The vast majority of Shabab's funding comes from tax extortion of businesses and illicit trade in charcoal and sugar.

They are a domestic group through and through. Its comforting to think theyre simply a foreign problem, but doesnt match up with reality.
 

Karb

Veteran
Joined
Nov 20, 2016
Messages
12,295
Reputation
15,985
Daps
73,101
Hard to say, the UN Monitoring Group and Matt Bryden said he has links with Al-Shabaab

But the UN Monitoring Group report on Khaire hasn't been confirmed..

That nikka Bryden is anti-somalia though. His wife is a Somaliland separatist.

The PM was cleared of all allegations as far as I recall.

These claims are ridiculous. Some even claim that he has links to al-shabaab simply because of his clan. Apparently most shabaab supporters are from his clan.
 
Top