Black_Jesus
Superstar
Pac isnt guaranteed anything being a free agent though. Fighters make more money signed to a long term deal... Floyd signed exclusively to showtime, why weren't you bytching then??
Freddie Roach on Chris Algieri: He's nothing special....Pacquiao is gonna KO him
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Pac isnt guaranteed anything being a free agent though. Fighters make more money signed to a long term deal... Floyd signed exclusively to showtime, why weren't you bytching then??
Black_Jesus
Superstar
And most of them are free agents, Are they not?? Why wont they work with TR?
TheProfessor
Pro
It's really not about Floyd. Pacquiao is fighting Chris Algieri because he has no other options. Had he remained a free agent he could have a choice of many, many opponents.But Floyd doesn't use GB for certain fights.. he uses them for evey fight. Floyd new he was never fighting Pac when refused to give up a percentage of ppv revenue.. Nobody is standing in the way of that fight happening except for Floyd, GB willing to work with TR, but dumb nikkas like you still think Pac being signed to TR is why the fight aint happen yet
Black_Jesus
Superstar
It doesn't matter, Pac getting paid a guaranteed minimum purse regardless who he fights. Just like Floyd who signed a 6 fight deal with Showtime, and didn't have any good options outside of Pac who he refuses to share ppv revenue with. Only reason you're bytching is cause its Pacquiao. Is it pacs fault JMM refuse to fight him?
TheProfessor
Pro
I'm pretty sure Pacquiao would be paid handsomely for fighting a Thurman or Garcia or anyone else he fought. Kinda like Cotto, who made a career high purse against Floyd. The purse is dependent on name power and, as a free agent, Pacquiao would have been able to cut his middle man out.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Garcia or Thurman dont really want to fight Pacquiao though..
TheProfessor
Pro
Really? When did they say that?
Black_Jesus
Superstar
They said that by signing to Al Haymon and letting him take.full.control of their careers.. Just take a look at who their fighting next
TheProfessor
Pro
At least they aren't charging us $70 for it.They said that by signing to Al Haymon and letting him take.full.control of their careers.. Just take a look at who their fighting next
But anyway, the reverse argument would be to say that Pacquiao keeps re-signing with Arum because he avoided them too.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Pac is in the position to charge you 70 bucs.. and he is the WBO ww champ..
TheProfessor
Pro
Not with his sh*tty ass PPV sales lately
Anyway, that's what we get in exchange for him re-upping with Top Rank.
Not with his sh*tty ass PPV sales lately
Anyway, that's what we get in exchange for him re-upping with Top Rank.
You beat me to it. Arum even admitted the numbers for Bradley/Pac II were disappointing, and with that said, one has to wonder why Algieri got the nod. The only thing I can think of is because he's the only one available via Top Rank/HBO. The Cold War appears to be coming to an end, especially in light of Hopkins and Kovalev reaching a deal to bang on HBO at that. Still, the cream of the crop from 140-147 is signed to Haymon, and there's nothing to indicate he's willing to deal with HBO, or maybe it's the other way around with HBO not wanting to work with him. After the Kellerman Ether, I'm under the impression HBO and Haymon aren't exactly willing to play nice. If that's the case, Manny really doesn't have many options.
On another note, since the homie brought up Thurman and Garcia not being willing to fight Manny by default of their decision to sign with Haymon, (which is ludicrous IMO) I have to wonder why was Broner barking loudly for a fight with Manny as he's a Haymon fighter too? That fight would surely do numbers at least on par with Bradley/Manny II, possibly better. Bob Arum shut down any thoughts of that happening real quick though and I wonder why? Is it because of Haymon?
Nope...Haymon doesn't decide who AB fights as an end all, be all.
We fought Maidana against Haymon's wishes and would jump at the opportunity to fight Pacquiao like AB said. Arum didn't wanna make that fight though...he'd rather match Pacquiao with Rios and Algeri even though Broner is a much bigger draw than either of them
Black_Jesus
Superstar
And thats what we get for for them nikkas signing with Al Haymon... every last one of them nikkas are fighting nobodies right now.. At least Pac gets to fight on ppvNot with his sh*tty ass PPV sales lately
Anyway, that's what we get in exchange for him re-upping with Top Rank.
Nope...Haymon doesn't decide who AB fights as an end all, be all.
We fought Maidana against Haymon's wishes and would jump at the opportunity to fight Pacquiao like AB said. Arum didn't wanna make that fight though...he'd rather match Pacquiao with Rios and Algeri even though Broner is a much bigger draw than either of them
You may have misunderstood me, when I asked was it Haymon, what I meant was is Haymon the reason Arum didn't want to make that fight happen? Also, is HBO not willing to do business with Haymon? I'm under the impression the answer is yes to both questions.