Freddie Gibbs: “We ain’t gon have rap in 5 years if u nikkaz don’t start rapping again”

[Pop123]

You'll still have rap...it's just gonna be so far removed (stylistically) from traditional rap as we knew it that it will deviate into something totally different maybe 10 more years down the line. 5 years is too soon, you'll still have some people holding on for dear life.

Rapping itself isn't the issue (you can argue it), it's the style of rapping that's "changing". To mid-80's babies like myself and earlier it's changing for the worse...we're old heads tho so who cares what we think? What's spooky is 15-20 years from now, the 15 year olds of today will be "old heads"...this shyt that they're jackin right now will probably sound like washed outdated shyt to the 15 years old then.... This shyt is linearly gonna devolve into a whole new something in like 15 years, watch.

 

[I'm Blackman]

I agree with Freddie Gibbs goofy ass. The past year I've been discovering jazz and besides that have been listening to soul, old r and b, funk, and 90s rap. When I turn on the radio, check for popular rappers, or top of the chart hiphop on my youtube music app...all I hear is singing/meldoy shyt. In 2022, I'm looking for just a popular mainstream group of new rappers. Just rappers. I dont care how good they are. (which is sad to say) but just bars. shyt changes tho and this new shyt aint for me for the most part. I check for -surprise-people I grew up on like Nas, Cube, Face, Lox, Juvenile, then go back to other shyt.

I might spin this tommorrow.

I don't necessarily agree with him but people are listing a bunch of random ass rappers that don't really have any kind of presence in the mainstream.

Cordae did 20k first week. Rome Streetz probably went double card board.

No hate because I like both rappers but people are confusing "I can find stuff on Google" with "this is the state of rap in 2022".

If the internet ceased to exist tomorrow, and you were left with who is currently rapping in the mainstream....regardless of whether or not you like their music....most mainstream rappers are not actually trying to rap.

Whether or not you care about that....is another topic entirely.

Fred.

This.

 

[Wild self]

it's just the way ears work

singing will always be preferred

so if you can get the cultural content you are looking for wrapped in harmony & melody then that's gonna naturally be the first choice

rap will always exist because most people will not be able to sing well but still desire to express themselves

but the hierarchy is permanently set

*

Most People brains cannot comprehend a 16 bar verse. Too many worda, lack of vocal range, and lacking emotion at times.

Thats why old school Hip Hop is so unique: cause people spitting concepts, storytelling, and abstract thoughts that traditionally could not be sang.

 

[010101]

Most People brains cannot comprehend a 16 bar verse. Too many worda, lack of vocal range, and lacking emotion at times.

Thats why old school Hip Hop is so unique: cause people spitting concepts, storytelling, and abstract thoughts that traditionally could not be sang.

right

it's like the audio version of a wall of text

instead of being able to just enjoy the feel of the sound now you have to decipher what's going on & that's where a lot of people get lost

*

 

[ISO]

I remember seeing the shift in 2016 when the Highbridge Vol. 1 tape came out (also one of the last original NYC style street tapes where a chunk of songs were freestyles over other ppl beats)

A boogie was riding high off the success of the Artist mixtape which hit the streets like wildfire. The fans were anticipating his next release.

It turns out this guy named “Don Q” was on almost every song since it was a label comp not a solo tape which pissed off a lot of fans they were calling him an “old nikka” and all types of shyt despite killing every song on the tape channeling B.I.G. on their version of ”Fukkin You Tonight” and annihilating trap beats in a double time multisyllabic delivery

Don wouldn’t get his respect until he went on Funk Flex a few weeks after the tape dropped in what’s now the most watched Funk Flex freestyle


In interviews A boogie always made sure to highlight that Don was a rapper and he was an artist. The fans preferred Boogie melodies and vocal tempo switch ups but they made for a mean duo in style contrast in songs they made together

Flash forward to today and Don career has fizzled out and Atlantic determined he wasn’t worth investing in anymore. One of the last of the Mohicans for real lyrical NYC street rappers.

Now we have a bunch of drill rappers with limited vocabularies and lyrical dexterity rapping in Batman voices and G Herbo deliveries with limited substance

All of A boogies sons (JI, Lil Tjay, Stunna G) can all rap well bar to bar even better than Boogie can but the melodic sound is what pays the bills they won’t switch up not even for a song

 

[Izanami]

We going to look back Drake, Cole and Kenny and realize how good we really had it

 

[ISO]

We going to look back Drake, Cole and Kenny and realize how good we really had it

shyt is a trip listening to their early work

Young nikkas really rapping

 

[FunkDoc1112]

I remember seeing the shift in 2016 when the Highbridge Vol. 1 tape came out (also one of the last original NYC style street tapes where a chunk of songs were freestyles over other ppl beats)

A boogie was riding high off the success of the Artist mixtape which hit the streets like wildfire. The fans were anticipating his next release.

It turns out this guy named “Don Q” was on almost every song which pissed off a lot of fans they were calling him an “old nikka” and all types of shyt despite killing every song on the tape channeling B.I.G. on their version of ”Fukkin You Tonight” and annihilating trap beats in a double time multisyllabic delivery

Don wouldn’t get his respect until he went on Funk Flex a few weeks after the tape dropped in what’s now the most watched Funk Flex freestyle


In interviews A boogie always made sure to highlight that Don was a rapper and he was an artist. The fans preferred Boogie melodies and vocal tempo switch ups but they made for a mean duo in style contrast in songs they made together

Flash forward to today and Don career has fizzled out and Atlantic determined he wasn’t worth investing in anymore. One of the last of the Mohicans for real lyrical NYC street rappers.

Now we have a bunch of drill rappers with limited vocabularies and lyrical dexterity rapping in Batman voices and G Herbo deliveries with limited substance

All of A boogies sons (JI, Lil Tjay, Stunna G) can all rap well bar to bar even better than Boogie can but the melodic sound is what pays the bills they won’t switch up not even for a song

Now you see what I've been telling you before

 

[MIC Que]

Maaane real live matter fact fr I’m better than that goofy ass Gibbs. I’ma make sure rap still here 5 years from now Ima drop a album then just to make sure . See more threads about this nikka antics than music

I did a rappity rap song over sum Madlib just cause and of cause thread was dry af but my shyt more John Blaze than that nikka *Madd Rapper voice* .



but back to what I was saying I see more threads bout this nikka tweets and antics than the music but that’s the section in general. New music rarely gets discussed/brought up/or supported. Honestly tho I think it’s cause younger fans were brought up on the internet so it’s easy for them to find new artists and support them while the older heads who would like that real rap shyt ain’t really out there looking like that and they’re expecting the hip-hop blogs/media and labels to put that out there for em like I mentioned earlier

 

[I'm Blackman]

I remember seeing the shift in 2016 when the Highbridge Vol. 1 tape came out (also one of the last original NYC style street tapes where a chunk of songs were freestyles over other ppl beats)

A boogie was riding high off the success of the Artist mixtape which hit the streets like wildfire. The fans were anticipating his next release.

It turns out this guy named “Don Q” was on almost every song which pissed off a lot of fans they were calling him an “old nikka” and all types of shyt despite killing every song on the tape channeling B.I.G. on their version of ”Fukkin You Tonight” and annihilating trap beats in a double time multisyllabic delivery

Don wouldn’t get his respect until he went on Funk Flex a few weeks after the tape dropped in what’s now the most watched Funk Flex freestyle


In interviews A boogie always made sure to highlight that Don was a rapper and he was an artist. The fans preferred Boogie melodies and vocal tempo switch ups but they made for a mean duo in style contrast in songs they made together

Flash forward to today and Don career has fizzled out and Atlantic determined he wasn’t worth investing in anymore. One of the last of the Mohicans for real lyrical NYC street rappers.

Now we have a bunch of drill rappers with limited vocabularies and lyrical dexterity rapping in Batman voices and G Herbo deliveries with limited substance

All of A boogies sons (JI, Lil Tjay, Stunna G) can all rap well bar to bar even better than Boogie can but the melodic sound is what pays the bills they won’t switch up not even for a song

Batman voices...why they do that shyt

 

[ISO]

Batman voices...why they do that shyt

I guess they think it makes them sound hard

 

[Trot LaRoc]

All genres have their rise and fall and eventually plateau....hiphop has been around over 40 yrs now and has been prob the most popular global genre for the last 25 yrs.

Jazz was that hot shyt from the 40s to 70s and then that shyt got watered down until it became Kenny G and Wyntin Marsalis....weak imitations of the real thing

Same goes for rock, rnb etc.

Rap is just background music to sell shyt now....
There will always be young dudes who rap but theyre gonna be underground and stay underground. Support them instead of all this woe is me. Saba is a young dude that is actually rapping rapping and about thoughtful shyt and with substance but i bet half of yall aint bump his new album

"Lyrical" rap aint gonna be maindtream Gain for many reasons......our society has developed ppl to have lower attention spans. Ppl dont wanna decipher multis and all that....they want easily repeatable choruses and catchphrases.

Label owners either purposefully or subconsciously push negativity....the nihilism of a 19 yr old rapping bout smokin opps is seen as more exciting than someone rapping about....group economics

Just keep supporting the rappers that rap in the style you like or start branching out into other genres.

I still fw hiphop but its old hat to me. I dont get how folk can listen to nikkaz rap all day, every day. There's so much shyt that is way more interesting musically at this point in my life

 

[Youngdev]

Alot of the dudes like A boogie, durk and baby can rap tho , they just do the melodic shyt and do different styles, even thug and future can rap





Is this not rap, or is this melodic r and b ? they both spitting to me







Freddie gibbs switches to the more melodic sounds too sometimes





I just dont get the complaints its something out here for everyone

 

[Soylent Greenz]

Alot of the dudes like A boogie, durk and baby can rap tho , they just do the melodic shyt and do different styles, even thug and future can rap





Is this not rap, or is this melodic r and b ? they both spitting to me







Freddie gibbs switches to the more melodic sounds too sometimes





I just dont get the complaints its something out here for everyone

Both these tracks are fukking terrible.

 

[Dolo]

Both these tracks are fukking terrible.