That truly needs to be addressed. Those who support the intervention can't tell the difference between the two.
France Sends Troops to Mali to Help Counter Islamist Advance
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That truly needs to be addressed. Those who support the intervention can't tell the difference between the two.
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There is an intervention to deal with the wahhabists who are killing everyone and destroying monuments you ignorant puke.
There is an intervention to deal with the wahhabists who are killing everyone and destroying monuments you ignorant puke.
Ummm no it's not. Wahabbis is who Great Britain and U.S. support which have taken over Libya and want Syria. This is about taking resources and using "Terrorism and Intervention" as the motive.
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88 when you bring something worth mentioning to the table...that's when I'll respond to you. You aren't taking seriously in discussions but I deal with you.
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There is an intervention to deal with the wahhabists who are killing everyone and destroying monuments you ignorant puke.
Dude if you don't want to deal with the reality of the situation.... what
The Master as Guest: The U.S. Military Swarms Over Africa
A Black Agenda Radio commentary by Glen Ford
The 2nd Brigades deployment is a much larger assignment, aimed at making all of Africa a theater of U.S. military operations.
2013 is the year the U.S. kicks off its wholesale military occupation of Africa. The escalation should come as no surprise, since the Army Times newspaper reported, back in June, that a U.S. brigade of at least 3,000 troops would become a permanent presence on the continent in the new year. On Christmas Eve, the Pentagon announced that 3,500 soldiers of the 1st Infantry Divisions 2nd Brigade, in Fort Riley, Kansas, will be sent to Africa, supposedly to confront a threat from al-Qaida in Mali, where Islamists have seized the northern part of the country. But the 2nd Brigade is scheduled to hold more than 100 military exercises in 35 countries, most of which have no al-Qaida presence. So, although there is no doubt that the U.S. will be deeply involved in the impending military operation in Mali, the 2nd Brigades deployment is a much larger assignment, aimed at making all of Africa a theater of U.S. military operations. The situation in Mali is simply a convenient, after-the-fact rationale for a long-planned expansion of the U.S. military footprint in Africa.
The Pentagons larger purpose in placing an army brigade on roving duty all across the continent is to acclimate African commanders to hosting a permanent, large scale U.S. presence. This is a very different kind of invasion more like an infiltration-in-force. The Pentagons strategy is designed to reinforce relationships that the U.S. Africa Command has been cultivating with African militaries since the establishment of AFRICOM during George Bushs last year in office. As an infiltrating force, AFRICOM has been a phenomenal success.
Militarily, the West Africans are totally dependent.
Militarily speaking, the African Union has become an annex of the Pentagon. The AUs biggest operation, in Somalia, is armed, financed and directed by the U.S. military and CIA. The 17,000 African troops on so-called peace-keeping duty in Somalia are, for all practical purposes, mercenaries for the Americans although poorly paid ones. Ethiopian and Kenyan forces act as extensions of U.S. power in the East Africa. U.S. Special Forces roam the Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda, South Sudan, and the Central African Republic ostensibly looking for the fugitive warlord Joseph Kony but, in reality, establishing a web of U.S. military infrastructures throughout center of the continent. Uganda and Rwanda keep the eastern Congos mineral riches safe for U.S. and European corporations at the cost of 6 million Congolese lives. Their militaries are on the Pentagons payroll.
In northwest Africa, the 16 nations of the regions economic community await the intervention of the United Nations which really means the United States and France to expel the Islamist forces from Mali. Militarily, the West Africans are totally dependent. But, more importantly, they show no political will to escape this dependency especially after the demise of Libyas Muammar Gaddafi.
The creeping, continental U.S. expeditionary force, soon to be spearheaded by the 1st Infantry Divisions 2nd Brigade, will bunk down in African military bases throughout the continent, not as invaders, but as guests. Guests who pay the bills and provide the weapons for African armies whose mission has nothing to do with national independence and self-determination. Three generations after the beginnings of decolonization, the African soldier is once again bowing to the foreign master.
A Black Agenda Radio commentary by Glen Ford
The 2nd Brigades deployment is a much larger assignment, aimed at making all of Africa a theater of U.S. military operations.
2013 is the year the U.S. kicks off its wholesale military occupation of Africa. The escalation should come as no surprise, since the Army Times newspaper reported, back in June, that a U.S. brigade of at least 3,000 troops would become a permanent presence on the continent in the new year. On Christmas Eve, the Pentagon announced that 3,500 soldiers of the 1st Infantry Divisions 2nd Brigade, in Fort Riley, Kansas, will be sent to Africa, supposedly to confront a threat from al-Qaida in Mali, where Islamists have seized the northern part of the country. But the 2nd Brigade is scheduled to hold more than 100 military exercises in 35 countries, most of which have no al-Qaida presence. So, although there is no doubt that the U.S. will be deeply involved in the impending military operation in Mali, the 2nd Brigades deployment is a much larger assignment, aimed at making all of Africa a theater of U.S. military operations. The situation in Mali is simply a convenient, after-the-fact rationale for a long-planned expansion of the U.S. military footprint in Africa.
The Pentagons larger purpose in placing an army brigade on roving duty all across the continent is to acclimate African commanders to hosting a permanent, large scale U.S. presence. This is a very different kind of invasion more like an infiltration-in-force. The Pentagons strategy is designed to reinforce relationships that the U.S. Africa Command has been cultivating with African militaries since the establishment of AFRICOM during George Bushs last year in office. As an infiltrating force, AFRICOM has been a phenomenal success.
Militarily, the West Africans are totally dependent.
Militarily speaking, the African Union has become an annex of the Pentagon. The AUs biggest operation, in Somalia, is armed, financed and directed by the U.S. military and CIA. The 17,000 African troops on so-called peace-keeping duty in Somalia are, for all practical purposes, mercenaries for the Americans although poorly paid ones. Ethiopian and Kenyan forces act as extensions of U.S. power in the East Africa. U.S. Special Forces roam the Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda, South Sudan, and the Central African Republic ostensibly looking for the fugitive warlord Joseph Kony but, in reality, establishing a web of U.S. military infrastructures throughout center of the continent. Uganda and Rwanda keep the eastern Congos mineral riches safe for U.S. and European corporations at the cost of 6 million Congolese lives. Their militaries are on the Pentagons payroll.
In northwest Africa, the 16 nations of the regions economic community await the intervention of the United Nations which really means the United States and France to expel the Islamist forces from Mali. Militarily, the West Africans are totally dependent. But, more importantly, they show no political will to escape this dependency especially after the demise of Libyas Muammar Gaddafi.
The creeping, continental U.S. expeditionary force, soon to be spearheaded by the 1st Infantry Divisions 2nd Brigade, will bunk down in African military bases throughout the continent, not as invaders, but as guests. Guests who pay the bills and provide the weapons for African armies whose mission has nothing to do with national independence and self-determination. Three generations after the beginnings of decolonization, the African soldier is once again bowing to the foreign master.
It is.
Your correct about the Western world's motive for intervening (which nobody is really denying), BUT, 88 is correct about the Islamists killing, mutilating and enslaving people as well as destroying historical monuments.
The US and UK are not supporting Wahhabi groups...at least not directly. Saudis and to a lesser degree Qataris are supporting these groups using their petro dollars. Those Gulf Arab kingdoms and emirates who everyone seem to think are just innocent and uninvolved are using their $$$$$$$$ to fund many of these revolutions in their fellow Arab-Muslim countries whiles clamping down on dissidents in their own countries.
The Islamic world is divided more than it's ever been. In Mali, It's Sufi vs Salafi.
Mali is 90% muslim and has one of the richest islamic histories
Pick a different narrative
Anyways this issue leaves me conflicted like the libyan conflict
On one hand id love to personally put a bullet in the head of each one of these "islamist" wahhabi fukks
Mali on an islamic historical context has contributed more to the din than the entire arabian peninsula post the 4 khalifas
To see Timbuktu raped by these animals truly brought tears to my eyes
On the flip side these fukkin French man.
What you neglect to mention is the type of Islam that is present in Mali versus the Islam that is being imported by way of the Islamist groups.
Mali is mostly Sufi branch of Islam, with a lot of ATR cultural practices.
So theworldismine13 doesn't need to pick another narrative.
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@thekingsmen, while in general i agree with your that the West's intentions in Africa are dubious at best and nefarious at worst, the islamic extremists currently terrorizing the hapless citizens of Mali are subhuman and need to be eliminated. They are terrorizing citizens, destroying historical artifacts that date back centuries, and overall making like a living hell for the average Malian citizen. Its clear the Malian government is incapable of handling these islamic thugs, so a strong military force is needed. I therefore welcome the French armies and hope they can successfully beat back the islamic menace that is terrorizing the Malian people. Hopefully they and the US can assist the hapless Nigerian government it taking care of its islamic problem as well.
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Look, I'm not going to go back and forth with you over who is more imperialistic. It doesn't matter to me. THEY BOTH ARE! So let's leave at that.
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Im well aware of the schism
Twisms narrative is more simplistic drivel. He's trying to paint this as another onslaught by waves of Islamic hordes penetrating into the virgin infidel lands of Africa. This isn't the north-south Sudanese conflict. Islamists have infiltrated Mali the way they infiltrated south Asia and the Caucasus. it's not a "bad Moozlems are killing blacks" bullshyt discourse
It's not really Islamic imperialism (with all of its connotations with real historic Islamic imperialism against non Muslims), when it's a Muslim vs Muslim., and when the real backdrop here is ethnic agitation, and a virulent strain of Islamism whose roots are in western supported conflicts and regimes
