Forbes: Falling Illegal Immigration Numbers Confirm No Border Crisis

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

From your link

“Immigrants are not the cause of this, they are the effect,” said Ruth Milkman, a sociologist who has studied the history of construction in Southern California. “The sequence of events is that the de-unionization and the accompanying deterioration of the jobs come first, before immigrants.”


So as I've been saying it's the capitalist system where the goal of a capitalist is produce the largest amount of product doe the cheapest amount of price.

Capitalism needs a large poorly paid labor force to sustain itself. The rich will never in a mill ip on years seal that border.


You like the other fool dont even read your own sources. Just google how immigrants hurt or America or some shyt didnt you?

A thorough article with multiple viewpoints (you know academic rigor and being thorough) presents all informed sides.

Cherry picking quotes isn’t going to help you.

And you still have 3 more articles to read.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

@ELESDEE616 dont you find it amazing that 10+ years ago all mainstream black democrats were against illegals?

Until mid Obama Administration did this become some rallying cry for Democrats to fix this issue. All of a sudden we’re treating illegals as an endangered species.

If you can’t see the spin and bias you are actively lying.

This issue is an anchor around Democrats neck and takes up too much of our energy and prevents us from actually investing our political capital in progressive efforts and other tangible left policies for American citizens and the historically underserved.

 

[Maschine_Man]

From your link

“Immigrants are not the cause of this, they are the effect,” said Ruth Milkman, a sociologist who has studied the history of construction in Southern California. “The sequence of events is that the de-unionization and the accompanying deterioration of the jobs come first, before immigrants.”


So as I've been saying it's the capitalist system where the goal of a capitalist is produce the largest amount of product doe the cheapest amount of price.

Capitalism needs a large poorly paid labor force to sustain itself. The rich will never in a mill ip on years seal that border.


You like the other fool dont even read your own sources. Just google how immigrants hurt or America or some shyt didnt you?

Capitalism does NOT need a large poorly paid labor force to sustain itself. It needs rules and laws to be upheld and regulated to ensure that fairness and equality are maintained. Houses still need to be build and agriculture still needs to be done. These jobs aren't going away. Right now we are just allowing rich ppl to get richer by breaking the law. Capitalism doesn't need laws to be broken to survive. That isn't capitalism, thats corruption.

Now, stopping illegal immigration is only part of the problem, but it IS a problem. And anyone suggesting otherwise is just playing dirty politics with the issue.

regulating and investigating employers that routinely hire illegal workers is just as much (if not more)....actually I'd say MORE important than just stopping the flow of illegal immigrants, but they all have to wrk hand in hand to fix the problem.

 

[KingJudah2]

From your link

“Immigrants are not the cause of this, they are the effect,” said Ruth Milkman, a sociologist who has studied the history of construction in Southern California. “The sequence of events is that the de-unionization and the accompanying deterioration of the jobs come first, before immigrants.”


So as I've been saying it's the capitalist system where the goal of a capitalist is produce the largest amount of product doe the cheapest amount of price.

Capitalism needs a large poorly paid labor force to sustain itself. The rich will never in a mill ip on years seal that border.


You like the other fool dont even read your own sources. Just google how immigrants hurt or America or some shyt didnt you?

Of course some liberal herb is gonna say that, He don't wanna lose his job

 

[ELESDEE616]

A thorough article with multiple viewpoints (you know academic rigor and being thorough) presents all informed sides.

Cherry picking quotes isn’t going to help you.

And you still have 3 more articles to read.

There were no serious statistical analysis in any of the articles you posted. If there was post a link directly to the source

no liberal fakkit

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

The only reason one group "supports" illegal immigration is because the other group hates it.

Wrong. People have a variety of reasons for supporting migrant workers crossing artificial borders. It's bigger than messageboard beef. If capital can travel freely around the world setting up shop wherever it wants, then labor can too. People are not illegal. This country wants the work, but they hate the workers.

black labor.

You endorsed white nationalism. You don't care about black anything. The reason you want me to ignore you is because then you can spout more bullshyt without being called on it. I will never stop reminding people that you endorsed white nationalism, fakkit.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Wrong. People have a variety of reasons for supporting migrant workers crossing artificial borders. It's bigger than messageboard beef. If capital can travel freely around the world setting up shop wherever it wants, then labor can too. People are not illegal. This country wants the work, but they hate the workers.


You endorsed white nationalism. You don't care about black anything. The reason you want me to ignore you is because then you can spout more bullshyt without being called on it. I will never stop reminding people that you endorsed white nationalism, fakkit.

Lol. Bruh. Try going to any other country and open up a business. You are not going to be able to do that without paying taxes and more.
So why would you even attempt to make that comparison?

And if you really cared about workers then you would be against illegal workers and the exploitation of them.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You endorsed white nationalism. You don't care about black anything. The reason you want me to ignore you is because then you can spout more bullshyt without being called on it. I will never stop reminding people that you endorsed white nationalism, fakkit.

I never endorsed white nationalism.

You are lying.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

There were no serious statistical analysis in any of the articles you posted. If there was post a link directly to the source

no liberal fakkit

You don't care about anything in this document, do you?



How about this document congressional academic review?





Your alt accounts are garbage btw.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Wait till @ELESDEE616 meets Senator Barack Obama

Sen Barack Obama Illegal Immigration | User Clip | C-SPAN.org

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

And if you really cared about workers then you would be against illegal workers and the exploitation of them.

That's why I want to give them citizenship, dumbass.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Wrong. People have a variety of reasons for supporting migrant workers crossing artificial borders.

Illegally? What are the reasons you support illegal immigration?

People are not illegal.

They are illegal immigrants because they came to the country illegally. See how that works?

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

I never endorsed white nationalism.

You are lying.

Hillary Clinton calls on Europe to curb migration to halt populists

You endorsed white nationalism in that thread and it's plain for everyone to see. I will never stop bringing this up. It will never be forgotton. You are a wannabe fascist collaborator. Suck a seasonally appropriate dikk and wash it down with pureed dog shyt.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

Illegally? What are the reasons you support illegal immigration?

Working men go where the good work is. America has fukked over everything south of the border, so people are going where they can to support their families. I noticed you cut out the part about capital having no borders.

They are illegal immigrants because they came to the country illegally. See how that works?

How that works is propaganda from white supremacists who fear an increasingly brown America. They are undocumented workers, this is true. I support giving them documents, just like good old Ellis Island.

 

[ELESDEE616]

Capitalism does NOT need a large poorly paid labor force to sustain itself

Why hasnt capitalism eliminated social and economic classes if that's the case?

It needs rules and laws to be upheld and regulated to ensure that fairness and equality are maintained.

The purpose of capitalism is to extract as much profit from labor as possible so that the owners of production can reap as much surplus as possible from that labor. You cannot regulate capitalism because then capitalism ceases to be.

Houses still need to be build and agriculture still needs to be done. These jobs aren't going away. Right now we are just allowing rich ppl to get richer by breaking the law. Capitalism doesn't need laws to be broken to survive. That isn't capitalism, thats corruption.

The ability to own a home will be regulated to a select few in the coming years. The vast majority of the population will be housed in giant apartment spires not too different then what you see in Japan now. You'll have a bed and a toilet with a rail or subway outside your apartment to take you to your job. Take a trip there sometime and you will see humanities future.

Wages will continue to be lowered while the cost of living will increase and means of extracting labor will become more efficient.

Now, stopping illegal immigration is only part of the problem, but it IS a problem. And yone suggesting otherwise is just playing dirty politics with the issue.

Illegal immigration is necessary to support the capitalist system. Babies are no longer being born because young people hoping to make it to the middle class cannot afford them, thus the source of production has to come from elsewhere, thus companies need to extract that labor from somewhere.


Please tell us why the population in the West cannot replace itself?

regulating and investigating employers that routinely hire illegal workers is just as much (if not more)....actually I'd say MORE important than just stopping the flow of illegal immigrants, but they all have to wrk hand in hand to fix the problem.

Who's going to investigate? What government agency?