For whom the Drum rolls: 2013-2014 Detroit Pistons Thread

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Milsap absolutely OWNED J Smoove tonight :scusthov:. The fukk have you nikkas done to Smoove's defense ? :wtf:
 

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Also, I'll just leave these two stats here for y'all to think about. If these stats don't alarm you, you're fukkING stupid as fukk!

Kyle Korver, the NBA's BEST 3-pt shooter (shooting 50% from deep) has taken a TOTAL of 61 3-pt shots this year.
Now, guess how many Josh has taken? 62 :snoop:
 

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Of course I don't like him, he's a volume shooting inefficient PG that would be better served coming off the bench. He's taking 15.8 shots per game to score 16.3ppg, all while shooting a blistering 38% from the field. In what world is that a good player?
Man, look at their roster, who else is going to score? Monroe doesn't like to move, no one runs the break, while this team is much more talented than Milwaukee, they play horrible together as a team. Man, like Ellis, he just needs to be in a good situation. I really don't like the Jennings hate. I really don't. I am not a fan generally of guys like Jennings but I really don't think it's his fault.
 

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Teague was eating Jennings lunch though, some of these defensive problems come from other PG's getting easy access to the lane. I wouldn't say he is the last issue.
Ya'll don't rotate defensively and Teague is gonna get to basket on any PG. He's been doing it all year long. Ask @AVXL @charmander and @FreshFromATL

Ya'll team is easily the most frustrating to watch. People talk about the Knicks but really, they just need Chandler. Josh Smith is completely misused. Drummond really isn't ready yet while his talent is clearly something to watch, and Monroe needs to go to a team like Houston which he has a defensive anchor who is a center so he doesn't have to defend because he doesn't like to rotate or move on D.

He's not fine. I don't know what it is with your infatuation with Jennings, but son you gotta be realistic.Dude is out there over-dribbling, shooting 16.3 shots a game at 38%, not involving Monroe/Dre consistently and just taking stupid ass shots. Smith and Jennings are both issues. Point blank period.
Most of his shots last nights were within the flow of the offense, I can't speak for all of his games this season, but I can say last night, it was needed and he was the hot hand as well.
 

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He's not fine. I don't know what it is with your infatuation with Jennings, but son you gotta be realistic.Dude is out there over-dribbling, shooting 16.3 shots a game at 38%, not involving Monroe/Dre consistently and just taking stupid ass shots. Smith and Jennings are both issues. Point blank period.
Most of his shots last nights were within the flow of the offense, I can't speak for all of his games this season, but I can say last night, it was needed and he was ho
Also, I'll just leave these two stats here for y'all to think about. If these stats don't alarm you, you're fukkING stupid as fukk!

Kyle Korver, the NBA's BEST 3-pt shooter (shooting 50% from deep) has taken a TOTAL of 61 3-pt shots this year.
Now, guess how many Josh has taken? 62 :snoop:
Breh, Detroit is so frustrating, we have a lot better shooters and we only took 15 threes. Detroit took 22 and Smoove was 0-4. Something ain't right and we didn't guard Smith on none of them :snoop:
 

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But that's irrelevant to the argument at hand. This all started and it all revolves around the fact that Jennings and Smith aren't the right pieces. When has this ever been about the team? You post these middle of the pack stats for your team but NOT ONCE about Jennings and Smith. If you take away Smith and Jennings FG%, the team would have a better overall percentage - now does your simple minded ass understand?

The fact that your two main players have shytty shot selections, shytty FG%, shytty decision making means your team won't do shyt. Comprende?



No he didn't break out playing with Jennings. Do you need me to post that tweet again?





Tell me how the fukk does that sound like Sanders broke out playing with Jennings - when he criticized Jennings for not passing the ball and the STATS show he hardly ever fed him the ball. He assisted on 10% of Sanders field goals for the entire season, a PG who only assisted on 10% of his center's field goals.

Yet you're telling me he broke out playing with him? On what planet is assisting on 10% of total field goals breaking out? Tell me?

What about Jennings' and Smith's percentages? I'll wait. What about their garbage shot selection? I'll wait.

You said no big man has thrived next to Jennings. In spite of what You say Sanders had a break out Year while Jennings was on the team. You can't argue that he ruins players. when Sanders had the best season of his career playing next to Jennings. what about their %s? You are beating a dead horse. How many times have I addressed that with You? It is inconsequential to the Pistons at this point.



Who's my team? I'll wait. How many time have I told you that I don't support the Hawks? Is your reading comprehension level that low, you can't understand multiple times when I said I'm not a Hawks fan?

Does this sound like I'm a Hawks fan - http://www.thecoli.com/threads/deadhawkstans.2043/ ????????????????

At this point I could care less Who Your team is.





AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA being boooed????!!! What the fukk does that got to do with anything? You're telling me 'being booed in a place you used to call home' is an excuse for a player to be play garbage? Where do you come up with this shyt.

What? No, good-to-great players don't either go off or stink up the gym; those type of players have consistently good games and only bad games once in a while, when they face adversity the play through and beyond it. Smith has been wildly inconsistent for seasons, nothing has changed. If you put your hopes in a guy where you give the excuse of him being booed for a shytty performance you mustn't have high projections for this team.

haha... he had a shytty game because he got booed...... :dead:

I named several reasons why he could have an off game. Yet You cherry pick being booed. So his one game against his former team defines his play thus far this season? Yeah Ok.

Boy you dumb as hell. If you need telling the difference between the two comparisons you need to go back to school.


I've tried to be civil with You and Not insult Your intelligence because we disagree. So I will continue on that path. But You keep making the same tired argument about offense. When evidence clearly suggests it Is defense. Most who have been to school Know to consider all evidence and start at the most glaring weakness and work from there. For the last time. The shooting % of Josh and Bj are not the reason that the Pistons have the record that they do. They are damn near dead last In defense. that is the problem genius. even with BJ's poor % the team is still middle of the pack offensively.
 

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Ya'll don't rotate defensively and Teague is gonna get to basket on any PG. He's been doing it all year long. Ask @AVXL @charmander and @FreshFromATL

Ya'll team is easily the most frustrating to watch. People talk about the Knicks but really, they just need Chandler. Josh Smith is completely misused. Drummond really isn't ready yet while his talent is clearly something to watch, and Monroe needs to go to a team like Houston which he has a defensive anchor who is a center so he doesn't have to defend because he doesn't like to rotate or move on D.


Most of his shots last nights were within the flow of the offense, I can't speak for all of his games this season, but I can say last night, it was needed and he was the hot hand as well.
Ya'll don't rotate defensively and Teague is gonna get to basket on any PG. He's been doing it all year long. Ask @AVXL @charmander and @FreshFromATL

Ya'll team is easily the most frustrating to watch. People talk about the Knicks but really, they just need Chandler. Josh Smith is completely misused. Drummond really isn't ready yet while his talent is clearly something to watch, and Monroe needs to go to a team like Houston which he has a defensive anchor who is a center so he doesn't have to defend because he doesn't like to rotate or move on D.


Most of his shots last nights were within the flow of the offense, I can't speak for all of his games this season, but I can say last night, it was needed and he was the hot hand as well.

nah Jennings at this point (and career) is a defensive liability, EVERY PG so far (likes of Steve Blake even) has gotten by him at will, team defense starts at the PG position and moves it way on down, he's quick enouh to stay in front of cats but is not applying himself. PG and Center are the most important aspect of that imo. Drummond for only being in his second year w/ one year of college is already a great help/clean up defender, being put in that position has also gotten him in foul trouble, but these last two games he's shown improvement with that , the kid is quick learner. His man to man needs work, but again he is still learning.

Monroe isn't that quick of foot but neither is Zach Randolph, Monroe is actually more athletic than Zach and should be used in a similar fashion due to skillsets. Monroe getting only 8 shots last night is not acceptable. The offense should go through him and he needs about 18 shots a game, plus he is one of the best passing bigs in the league. We shouldn't primarily be a jump shooting team speeding up the game all the time, it should only be in spots. Jennings got 21 shots and Monroe only 8 :what: it should be the other way around.

Frustrating to watch yeah, but again this team has only 10-11 games together in a new system at that. The Knicks should be more frustrating to watch because they've been together longer and have played without Chandler before with success.
 

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I've tried to be civil with You and Not insult Your intelligence because we disagree. So I will continue on that path. But You keep making the same tired argument about offense. When evidence clearly suggests it Is defense. Most who have been to school Know to consider all evidence and start at the most glaring weakness and work from there. For the last time. The shooting % of Josh and Bj are not the reason that the Pistons have the record that they do. They are damn near dead last In defense. that is the problem genius. even with BJ's poor % the team is still middle of the pack offensively.

I have to agree with this. Last night, y'all transition and pickNroll defense left me :wtf: on several occasions. But the bottom line is, nikkas gonna have to choose between a combination of Drummond/Monroe or Drummond/Josh. That shyt y'all got with Drommond/Monroe/Josh just ain't gonna work no matter how you try to slice it. Drummond/Monroe gonna fukk around and start regressing because they spend most of their time on offense watching Josh/Jennings/Stuckey just dribble, dribble, and jack. Those heaves by Jennings that fukked around and hit where the only thing that kept y'all in the game.
 

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I have to agree with this. Last night, y'all transition and pickNroll defense left me :wtf: on several occasions. But the bottom line is, nikkas gonna have to choose between a combination of Drummond/Monroe or Drummond/Josh. That shyt y'all got with Drommond/Monroe/Josh just ain't gonna work no matter how you try to slice it. Drummond/Monroe gonna fukk around and start regressing because they spend most of the time on offense watching Josh/Jennings/Stuckey just dribble, dribble, and jack.

that's the thing though they get the green light to do so, Stuckey for sure because he is the 6th man off of the bench, that is what Cheeks wants him to do.
 

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nah Jennings at this point (and career) is a defensive liability, EVERY PG so far (likes of Steve Blake even) has gotten by him at will, team defense starts at the PG position and moves it way on down, he's quick enouh to stay in front of cats but is not applying himself. PG and Center are the most important aspect of that imo. Drummond for only being in his second year w/ one year of college is already a great help/clean up defender, being put in that position has also gotten him in foul trouble, but these last two games he's shown improvement with that , the kid is quick learner. His man to man needs work, but again he is still learning.

Monroe isn't that quick of foot but neither is Zach Randolph, Monroe is actually more athletic than Zach and should be used in a similar fashion due to skillsets. Monroe getting only 8 shots last night is not acceptable. The offense should go through him and he needs about 18 shots a game, plus he is one of the best passing bigs in the league. We shouldn't primarily be a jump shooting team speeding up the game all the time, it should only be in spots. Jennings got 21 shots and Monroe only 8 :what: it should be the other way around.

Frustrating to watch yeah, but again this team has only 10-11 games together in a new system at that. The Knicks should be more frustrating to watch because they've been together longer and have played without Chandler before with success.
Zach is playing next to a high IQ true center. Drummond is dumb as a fukk B and doesn't play good defense at all. He reminds me of what Josh Smith was as a 20 year old defensively.

Jennings is a D liability. Agreed. The problem is you don't have the team to unitize Monroe. It's just that simple.
 

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Drummond's/Monroe's development >>>>> green-lighting volume shooters

No argument here on that. To me our squad is similar to Portland's make up. If Aldridge can get 20 shots with Lillard getting his 18-20 a night there is no reason why Monroe cannot. Those guys are 10-2, we're 4-7. Main difference is that 5 of our losses are on the road and they are 6-1 on the road. They've been together longer and execute better, they were not like this last year.
 

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No argument here on that. To me our squad is similar to Portland's make up. If Aldridge can get 20 shots with Lillard getting his 18-20 a night there is no reason why Monroe cannot. Those guys are 10-2, we're 4-7. Main difference is that 5 of our losses are on the road and they are 6-1 on the road. They've been together longer and execute better, they were not like this last year.

The thing is though, while Leonard is a scoring guard, he's the ONLY other option sharing shots with Aldridge. Monroe gotta compete with Jennings, Josh, Stucky, and to a lesser extinct, Drummond. Monroe's job isn't to create his own offense (at least not in y'all's system). Jennings HAS to get him involved and that just isn't going to happen with the makeup of y'all team. Josh should have never been a Piston if you were gonna bring in Jennings.
 

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Zach is playing next to a high IQ true center. Drummond is dumb as a fukk B and doesn't play good defense at all. He reminds me of what Josh Smith was as a 20 year old defensively.

Jennings is a D liability. Agreed. The problem is you don't have the team to unitize Monroe. It's just that simple.

I think that falls on the coaching staff more than the players though. I don't recall seeing them play a zone once this season. I mean get back to basics because there are lanes from every angle of the court. Drummond keeps getting pulled away from the basket when He should be glued there on both ends of the floor.
 

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No argument here on that. To me our squad is similar to Portland's make up. If Aldridge can get 20 shots with Lillard getting his 18-20 a night there is no reason why Monroe cannot. Those guys are 10-2, we're 4-7. Main difference is that 5 of our losses are on the road and they are 6-1 on the road. They've been together longer and execute better, they were not like this last year.
Monroe isn't the type of offensive player who creates his own offense with ease like LMA. He needs a system to create his offense. He would be perfect in San Antonio.
 
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