For whom the Drum rolls: 2013-2014 Detroit Pistons Thread

[wire28]

are you a piston fan? if you are why tf are you so negative? none of us can tell the future, smith and jennings can change

I assume he a hawks fan. They the only nikkas obsessed with the pistons. And he been the most obsessed. What makes it even weirder is he don't even watch the games he just read the box score. He may be the first nikka I put on ignore.

Edit : damn the ignore feature smooth. I don't even see a box saying I'm ignoring this post, they just don't show his shyt all together

@Brooklynzson @bk

 

[Knights89]

I've had my fair share of criticism of Stuckey over the last couple of years, but he's been very solid so far this year.

 

[pawdalaw]

Again stop exposing yourself. Horford is 10x the player Monroe/Dre are at the moment.

Tobias Harris, Andrew Bogut, John Henson etc etc.

Jennings never ever helped develop a big man because he was too busy tryna get his.

So far this season

Dre: FG% .674,123 pts. 120 rebounds.

Moose: FG% .520, 164 pts, 94 rebounds.

Al: FG% .555,, 199 pts. 90 rebounds.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

you remain dapless... by the way, Your dap to post ratio is . You must be on that bullshyt all the time. LOl!

That's funny - why do I see two people dap my post?

Why would a bunch of folk dap my posts anyway.... i'm in a Pistons thread with Pistons fans telling them how their latest signing project isn't gonna work. I've got a better idea.... I'll make a thread asking folk how they think 'this' situation will end up and we'll see the results.....

I don't post for daps. Most of my opinions are against popular opinion. Plus I had about 2000 posts before that feature was even added.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

are you a piston fan? if you are why tf are you so negative? none of us can tell the future, smith and jennings can change

Nah I'm not a Pistons fan. Really none of us can tell the future?

All I'm saying is there's an EXTREME higher probability that this shyt won't work out because they aren't the right pieces. Any logical person would think the same. I'm not tryna be negative, I'm just telling it like it is.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

So far this season

Dre: FG% .674,123 pts. 120 rebounds.

Moose: FG% .520, 164 pts, 94 rebounds.

Al: FG% .555,, 199 pts. 90 rebounds.

Why did you post these stats?

 

[NormanConnors]

He's YOUR SF. Who else is gonna stretch the floor?

at you dudes talking like there's an alternative. He has to shoot threes and long 2s. No matter how garbage he is at them . He has to.

nah the pG dribbling up the court and making one pass to Smith for a contested 3 pter 3-5 steps behind the 3 pt line is a bad play no matter who the small forward is

@pawdalaw is right, I saw it yesterday, with movement and getting a 3 pt shot within the flow of the offense Smith is way more efficient along with playing some spots in the post. The thing is that standalone shot seems like an organized play in Cheeks play book, it is a terrible set regardless.

Shot selection is the key with Smith.

And for those talking about Joe waiting to fill the sf spot with a draft pick this year, don't forget if it ain't top 8 then that pick goes to Charlotte courtesy of the Ben Gordon trade.

I'll take an L here, I forgot all about that

 

[NormanConnors]

Nah I'm not a Pistons fan. Really none of us can tell the future?

All I'm saying is there's an EXTREME higher probability that this shyt won't work out because they aren't the right pieces. Any logical person would think the same. I'm not tryna be negative, I'm just telling it like it is.

you do have some good points but so does Pawdalaw in his counter, you're both right in a sense.

 

[pawdalaw]

Why did you post these stats?

Lol! don't back pedal now. You said Horford is 10x the player of Moose and Dre. they are all very similar. Al is the oldest at 27. You have yet to make a statement that You can stand behind.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

nah the pG dribbling up the court and making one pass to Smith for a contested 3 pter 3-5 steps behind the 3 pt line is a bad play no matter who the small forward is

But you have to understand when you have Jennings and Smith in these #1/#2 roles, these things will happen. You give dumb ass/low IQ players the reins to run wild, they'll do just that. And don't be bringing up this ' he got benched' bullshyt either, he's not getting that money to get benched every time he takes a stupid shot.

You can't expect to have players of that nature in leading roles and not expect shyt like that to happen. Because it will.

@pawdalaw is right, I saw it yesterday, with movement and getting a 3 pt shot within the flow of the offense Smith is way more efficient along with playing some spots in the post. The thing is that standalone shot seems like an organized play in Cheeks play book, it is a terrible set regardless.

The majority of players are more efficient if they get a 3pt shot in the flow of the offense. Again nothing new there. The fact of the matter is, Smith ain't no 3pt shooter. He ain't a shooter period. If a good part of your team's success is dependent on Smith hitting threes.... you obviously don't have much hope.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAH @ it's an organized play. Have you watched the Hawks before? That's why Smith used to do. He'll continue to take those shots if you let him. The only seemingly possible way the Pistons can stop that is if he's relegated to playing off the bench for about 18-20 mins a game and limited to only being in the post when either Dre or Monroe aren't out there. Which isn't gonna happen.

Shot selection is the key with Smith.

You don't say? Breh shot selection has been the key with him for how many seasons now. His shot selection isn't going to improve when he's a starting SF, HAS to shot perimeter shots and HAS to be one of the leading scorers for the team.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

you do have some good points but so does Pawdalaw in his counter, you're both right in a sense.

The only thing that he has in his favour is that he's optimistic that it'll work out. Telling me that Jennings and Smith aren't a problem and/or they'll get better as players and providing no relevant/concrete evidence that outweighs the fact they've been boneheaded over the last 4-5 seasons isn't right.

 

[NormanConnors]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAH @ it's an organized play. Have you watched the Hawks before? That's why Smith used to do. He'll continue to take those shots if you let him. The only seemingly possible way the Pistons can stop that is if he's relegated to playing off the bench for about 18-20 mins a game and limited to only being in the post when either Dre or Monroe aren't out there. Which isn't gonna happen.

yeah I watched them when I could, seemed like Woodson and Larry Drew had/have the same philosophies.

Didn't Woodson have an offense built off of isololation, that's how 'iso' Joe came about right

That's all on coaching right there, maybe it is too late to change, but when you come in the league (in Smith's case, I know Joe started in Phoenix, which was fun ball also) and the coach is asking you to iso, that will be how you're going to develop. Changes can be reversed though, it is more mental than not.

I've already seen Smith play more controlled this year than in his ATL days combined, so improvement has been showed. He is still free world with it though I am not disputing that, just not as bad, but still detrimental.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Lol! don't back pedal now. You said Horford is 10x the player of Moose and Dre. they are all very similar. Al is the oldest at 27. You have yet to make a statement that You can stand behind.

How am I back-peddling?

Yes he is, 10x is a slight exaggeration but you get the point. He's considerably a lot better than both of them. Really Horford is the oldest? You don't say

They aren't very similar at all. Do you watch any other teams besides the Pistons? Posting those stats and saying that there isn't much difference between them shows you don't watch Horford play at all.

BTW, I stand behind all my statements.

 

[pawdalaw]

I've posted several stats from this season You Ignore them.
It has been established that offense isn't losing us games, It is poor defense, Yet You are still talking about shot selection 2 posts ago.
actually advanced stats say Dre is a better player than Al this Year.
check for Yourself.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/horfoal01.html

 

[Poitier]

We should flip Smith or Monroe for a top 10 pick and go after Rodney Hood, Sam Dekker or James Young in the draft.