For whom the Drum rolls: 2013-2014 Detroit Pistons Thread

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Right now KCP, I haven't seen much of McLemore yet. I like KCP's shooting and defense, he's like an upgraded version of RIP not as automatic jumper wise (yet) but defensively he is better. Oladipo is solid, opinion could change.

I agree, I love dudes defense and athletecism. didn't he hit back to back 3s tonight? Haven't seen much of Oladipo and Mack but the last thing we need is another shooter in any form. I would say Pope is the perfect fit at this point.
 

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I agree, I love dudes defense and athletecism. didn't he hit back to back 3s tonight? Haven't seen much of Oladipo and Mack but the last thing we need is another shooter in any form. I would say Pope is the perfect fit at this point.

yeah he got in a nice rhythm early, hit a mid range then a couple 3's in a row. it will be important to get him shots, confidence is already there.
 

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I think what gives KCP the edge over McLemore is his end to end speed plus his ability to defend. The rest of their game is pretty similar. McLemore is a better leaper and shooter.

Oladipo is more athletic but he isn't the shooter the other two are, more turnover prone and I think KCP has more defensive versatility with his length. He is a better help side defender and causes a ton of turnovers.

I think we got another steal :obama:
 

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i admit the L on this one. i wasnt even thinking the pistons getting smith but the signing surprised me.

i was adamant about not getting Iggy though. i thought he was too old to tie that much money in when our team probably wouldnt start peaking for another 2-3 years. but in hindsight his perimeter defense and ability to run the court would be golden right now (dont even ask me how :wow: ). we not winning nothing no time soon but he would have definitely been the perfect fit considering the options

oh well we just have to work with what we have, and i believe we can be a 5-6 seed with the team as already constructed. growth together and improving the bench could lift us higher as the years go on
I really liked the idea of Iggy here. For the very reason you said regarding defense. Plus he could have done just like he does inOakland and gave us some spot pg play. That shooting he doing though, nobody was counting on that and I honestly doubt if he'd reproduce that here anyway.

And for those talking about Joe waiting to fill the sf spot with a draft pick this year, don't forget if it ain't top 8 then that pick goes to Charlotte courtesy of the Ben Gordon trade.
 

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I think what gives KCP the edge over McLemore is his end to end speed plus his ability to defend. The rest of their game is pretty similar. McLemore is a better leaper and shooter.

Oladipo is more athletic but he isn't the shooter the other two are, more turnover prone and I think KCP has more defensive versatility with his length. He is a better help side defender and causes a ton of turnovers.

I think we got another steal :obama:
personally I believe that draft was a grand slam for Dumars. Pope, Mitchell, Siva. I expect all 3 to be great quality players.

And I hope Siva gets more burn. He played great defense tonight and he slowed our pace down. Which is something that I think we need. I don't think we need to be a run and gun team to make noise.
 
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Well the fact that I love basketball allows me to be passionate and unbiased about things. I've posted evidence of that. I post the overall shooting pecentage of a team and You say it means nothing. In what sport does FG% not mean anything? In what aspect of life does it not mean anything? You do live life in a way that You score and reach all Your goals at a high % right? You sounding like a loser when You make comments like that.
No that's not what I said. Why are you only posting about the team's FG% and not Smith/Jennings FG%? If you say you're unbiased, then you must be completely misinformed about their games previously to this season.

The rest of that shyt you just posted is straight corny.

Here a few facts that You keep overlooking.

Pistons:

had the worst starting schedule of any team in the NBA. look up opposing teams win % and their road trips and try to rebut that

Have the largest roster turnover in the league this Year

Have a new coaching staff.

cotdamn. You stay posting irrelevant shyt..

How is it that I hate reality when I am the only one posting stats to support My claim. And I will admit Me saying it was my job is a little corny, But The reality is You have offered nothing but opinions.

No wrong again, if anything you're the onle that has posted more opinions than anything else.

Larry Sanders did exceptionally well next to Jennings, All of the other Big men he played with have either been hurt or sucked. Andre Drummond's #s having improved this year since Jennings was inserted into the lineup. And so has Moose's, Smith has a history of playing with decent guards.

Nope, wrong again. Jennings never fed 4s/5s on the regular in Milwaukee, If you watched the Bucks, you would see this was pretty evident and one of the reasons they didn't want to keep Jennings, because he was a black hole. He got benched in the playoffs because he was out of turn with his shot selection.



You're constantly exposing yourself. You don't know what you're talking about.

Drummond's numbers have only gone up because he's playing 15 more minutes. He's actually got a higher points per 36 minutes in 12/13 than he does this season.

Smith has a history of playing with decent guards? What does that vague shyt even mean?

Like I've said before Teague and the Hawks look considerably more fluid this season than they have in the past with Smith on their team.

Your biggest problem is You are relying to much on the past to shape your argument

:mindblown:

No that's actually smart. The only problem here is you're believing shyt will happen when there's no historical trend of it happening. I'm goign by on what has happened, FOR SEASON AFTER SEASON AFTER SEASON AFTER SEASON.

Why is it so hard for you to comprehend?

Neither have played with talented Bigs like Moose and Dre.

Again stop exposing yourself. Horford is 10x the player Monroe/Dre are at the moment.

Tobias Harris, Andrew Bogut, John Henson etc etc.

Jennings never ever helped develop a big man because he was too busy tryna get his.

Your argument is the offense of these guys when I have already proven that offense is not the problem? both Chauncey and Rasheed came to the Pistons with poor reputations. They improved

My argument point blank is that aren't a good fit all around. Mainly offense yes, but not just it. You haven't proven the offense is not the problem. You're lack of forward thinking is appalling. What about all the other player that went to Detroit and didn't improve? For every one player you can name that improved in Detroit, I can name 3 to 4 maybe more.

Smith has had consecutive good and effecient games since his benching. Jennings while not as effecient as Josh has had consecutive games with high production. They are not the problem. Team defense is the Problem. Like someone said previously Dre needs to be more of an anchor, and they need to communicate more... Chemistry issues.

:dead: at you thinking benching him for one game is evidence of anything.

:dead: at you thinking Smith/Jennings aren't the problem.

Neither Smith and Jennings can guard their positions properly.

As currently constructed the Pistons:
will be a playoff team. Tell me they won't.

:what:

You're talking like being a bottom playoff seed in the East is noteworthy. There's THREE minus-.500 teams in the top 8 seeds right now. If they make the playoffs it won't mean shyt. it's hardly a scale to see how good a team is. Pistons can make it into the playoffs without being over .500. Yay clap for that.

5 teams in East over .500
9 teams in the West are either at .500 or above.

If Pistons were in the West, they'd be a 12th seed.

Moose and Dre are top 10 Bigs in this league.

When have I ever argued that they both aren't talented? That only adds more weight to my argument. If you have these talented bigs, you decrease the chance of them ever developing properly when you pair them up with two unreliable, inconsistent offensive players.
 
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Why doesn't Mo Cheeks cuss Josh Smith out for shooting the damn 3 too much like he's a SG or Kevin Durant something. Mo Cheeks needs to :camby:
that one pass to Smith for the stand alone 3 needs to be eliminated from the play book, he doesn't make those enough and the miss always leads to a fast break with his man usually the one scoring
He's YOUR SF. Who else is gonna stretch the floor?

:dead: at you dudes talking like there's an alternative. He has to shoot threes and long 2s. No matter how garbage he is at them . He has to.
 
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josh just need to realize at the 3 he can destroy nikkas in the post and get easy buckets. i will live for him taking a wide open three but no more dribbling up and pulling up and all that shyt
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Do you know ow many season Hawks fans have said this? Beaten their heads against the wall for all the dumb shyt he does? For all the longs 2s he attempts? Fact of the matter is he can't be in the post, more often than not when he's on the court with Monroe/Dre.. he has to take perimeter shots,....... else the floor will shrink like hell. Like I've said time and time again, you're dammed if he shoots and you're dammed if he doesn't.

Playing him at SF is only fuelling that dumb ass "I think I'm a SG' complex he has.

'Oh but no no Smith isn't the problem'... :dead:
 

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AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Do you know ow many season Hawks fans have said this? Beaten their heads against the wall for all the dumb shyt he does? For all the longs 2s he attempts? Fact of the matter is he can't be in the post, more often than not when he's on the court with Monroe/Dre.. he has to take perimeter shots,....... else the floor will shrink like hell. Like I've said time and time again, you're dammed if he shoots and you're dammed if he doesn't.

Playing him at SF is only fuelling that dumb ass "I think I'm a SG' complex he has.

'Oh but no no Smith isn't the problem'... :dead:
are you a piston fan? if you are why tf are you so negative? :what: none of us can tell the future, smith and jennings can change
 
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