naw, if he's not the least bit open minded about the possibility then its pointless. especially considering Indy wants Winslow and a convo starter.Even though PG is a rental and Indy curves Miami's offer, I'd still try to trade for him. Offer TJ; McBob, Ellington, and 14th for PG, tell Indy to take it or get a shyttier offer elsewhere
move on to see if you can get Butler, or signing Hayward. I would also look at melo, but I don't think they are interested