My dream scenario is TJ/McThief/#14 for Isaac if he slips. And it aint that I dont like TJ we just gotta get rid of this thieving b*stard McRobertsThe TWolves Pick
For Competitors Only .:. The Official 2017 Miami Heat Off-Season Thread
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What's your plan at the 2?
CouldBeWorse
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Honestly, if we're able to get Jrich locked in for cheap then I'm good with that. He can better on defense and I think he will be a solid 3 point shooter. A good 3-D player with size is as much as I can ask for.
I still think he can possibly develop into a pre injury Wes Matthews.
Scoring and shooting. I dont have any doubt he'll continue developing his 3 point shot, I just question whether he's going to be much more than a catch and shoot kind of player offensively. As long as Dragic is at point I think we also have to emphasize scoring with his backcourt partner, I'm not saying Rich wont get there, just that I havent seen enough yet to sell that as an upgrade to what we saw last year.
OfTheCross
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A Five-Step Plan for the Heat to Challenge the Golden State Warriors
1. The Heat must re-sign James Johnson and Dion Waiters.
2. Hassan Whiteside needs to capitalize on his talents and turn into a top-five player.
3. Justise Winslow must return healthy and live up to his promise.
2. The Heat must strike gold with the 14th overall pick in this year's NBA draft.
1. The Cleveland Cavaliers need to get worse at basketball.
1. The Heat must re-sign James Johnson and Dion Waiters.
2. Hassan Whiteside needs to capitalize on his talents and turn into a top-five player.
3. Justise Winslow must return healthy and live up to his promise.
2. The Heat must strike gold with the 14th overall pick in this year's NBA draft.
1. The Cleveland Cavaliers need to get worse at basketball.
the person that wrote these is 12 years old I take it
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
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Notice the two 1's and two 2's as well
Notice the two 1's and two 2's as well
like cmon man, what grown man with any basketball knowledge at all thinks THOSE are the 5 steps to challenge the warriors.
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
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It's so lacking in detail too
like cmon man, what grown man with any basketball knowledge at all thinks THOSE are the 5 steps to challenge the warriors.
I dont know about beating GS but I've been wanting Cleveland in the playoffs the last 2 years, hopefully we get it next year
OfTheCross
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Notice the two 1's and two 2's as well
I knew y'alled peep that.
The New Times has the WOAT Heat coverage man
He Who Posts Well
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Haslem — who turns 37 on Friday — has been one of the driving forces behind the Heat’s early offseason work. As the team captain, Haslem has already worked out a few times with impending free agent Dion Waiters and has made sure to stop in at AmericanAirlines Arena to catch up with other teammates. “In the midst of keeping myself in shape and keeping myself healthy, I’m also making sure those guys are staying in shape, staying healthy and doing the things that they’re supposed to be doing,” Haslem said. “The thing about this team is that there’s no mandatory, no coaches. It’s just guys showing up. Me in the league 14 years in, I pop in once a week, twice a week. I get a workout with the guys, get up some shots, talk some crap, crack some jokes, just see how everybody’s doing. We always stay connected.”
6 hours ago –via Palm Beach Post
Legacy this man Pat.
I don't see any reason why we shouldn't bring him back. I'm sure he wouldn't mind taking the veteran minimum or something close to it. Even if he is not playing, his influence as a leader is still felt.
6 hours ago –via Palm Beach Post
Legacy this man Pat.
I don't see any reason why we shouldn't bring him back. I'm sure he wouldn't mind taking the veteran minimum or something close to it. Even if he is not playing, his influence as a leader is still felt.
He Who Posts Well
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Draft talk. We invited Justin Jackson in for a workout. I bolded the important stuff. He seems like either a boom or bust prospect from what I read.
Heat summons ACC Player of Year for workout
BY BARRY JACKSON
bjackson@miamiherald.com
North Carolina small forward Justin Jackson, among several players very much in consideration for the Heat’s first-round pick at No. 14 overall, will work out for the Heat on Thursday, according to a source.
Jackson, 6-8, averaged 18.3 points, 4.7 rebounds and 2.8 assists last season and shot 44.3 percent from the field.
He improved his three-point shooting from 29.2 percent as a sophomore to 37.0 last season as a junior, hitting 105 of 284 attempts. Those 105 made threes ranked 20th in the country last season.
“Jackson's stark improvement as a three-point shooter resurrected his draft stock this year, but a late-season shooting slump has some NBA scouts worried that he might have been regressing to the mean,” ESPN NBA draft analyst Chad Ford said. “His ability to guard multiple positions is another plus, though his lack of elite speed and quickness lower his ceiling as a defender. Scouts are all over the place on him. Some have him in the teens. Others in the 30s. His range is really wide.”
Asked about what Detroit might do at No. 12 on a recent conference call, ESPN analyst Fran Fraschilla mentioned Jackson, but then said 12 might be too high for him.
NBA Draft profile: Justin Jackson
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“Another guy that really helped his stock is Justin Jackson from North Carolina, who made a ton of threes this year, although he struggled in the last part of the year, ironically, they win the national title, but I think he shot 27 percent from three down the stretch of the season,” Fraschilla said.
But Jackson’s defense shouldn’t be overlooked.
“He became an elite defender,” North Carolina coach Roy Williams said in a statement after Jackson turned pro. “His last three defensive performances -- against Kentucky, Oregon and Gonzaga [in the national championship game], against some of the most talented perimeter scorers in the country — were nothing short of spectacular.”
Jackson helped hold Kentucky’s Malik Monk (a projected lottery pick) to 10 points (4 for 10 shooting), Oregon’s Tyler Dorsey to 3 for 11 shooting and Gonzaga’s Jordan Mathews/Silas Melson to nine points on a combined 3 for 10 shooting.
“He did what our coaches and the NBA people advised him to do: get stronger and work on making more shots. He responded by investing a tremendous amount of his time in the offseason and came back to school a bigger, better and more confident player.”
Louisville coach Rick Pitino told me that Jackson reminds him of former Detroit Pistons star Richard Hamilton.
Jackson was named the ACC’s player of the year last season, receiving 24 of a possible 53 votes from ACC coaches and media members, beating out Wake Forest forward John Collins.
“We went through a very difficult ACC schedule and Justin gave our players a lot of confidence knowing that he would consistently be putting up 18-20 points, about five rebounds and some key assists each game,” Williams said.
“He listened to our coaching staff last spring about how to improve as a player and was determined to get better and stronger, which through his hard work and sweat, he is now reaping the benefits.”
Jackson, who measured at 201 pounds, said he’s trying to bulk up and get stronger.
Heat summons ACC Player of Year for workout
BY BARRY JACKSON
bjackson@miamiherald.com
North Carolina small forward Justin Jackson, among several players very much in consideration for the Heat’s first-round pick at No. 14 overall, will work out for the Heat on Thursday, according to a source.
Jackson, 6-8, averaged 18.3 points, 4.7 rebounds and 2.8 assists last season and shot 44.3 percent from the field.
He improved his three-point shooting from 29.2 percent as a sophomore to 37.0 last season as a junior, hitting 105 of 284 attempts. Those 105 made threes ranked 20th in the country last season.
“Jackson's stark improvement as a three-point shooter resurrected his draft stock this year, but a late-season shooting slump has some NBA scouts worried that he might have been regressing to the mean,” ESPN NBA draft analyst Chad Ford said. “His ability to guard multiple positions is another plus, though his lack of elite speed and quickness lower his ceiling as a defender. Scouts are all over the place on him. Some have him in the teens. Others in the 30s. His range is really wide.”
Asked about what Detroit might do at No. 12 on a recent conference call, ESPN analyst Fran Fraschilla mentioned Jackson, but then said 12 might be too high for him.
NBA Draft profile: Justin Jackson
Inform Sports
“Another guy that really helped his stock is Justin Jackson from North Carolina, who made a ton of threes this year, although he struggled in the last part of the year, ironically, they win the national title, but I think he shot 27 percent from three down the stretch of the season,” Fraschilla said.
But Jackson’s defense shouldn’t be overlooked.
“He became an elite defender,” North Carolina coach Roy Williams said in a statement after Jackson turned pro. “His last three defensive performances -- against Kentucky, Oregon and Gonzaga [in the national championship game], against some of the most talented perimeter scorers in the country — were nothing short of spectacular.”
Jackson helped hold Kentucky’s Malik Monk (a projected lottery pick) to 10 points (4 for 10 shooting), Oregon’s Tyler Dorsey to 3 for 11 shooting and Gonzaga’s Jordan Mathews/Silas Melson to nine points on a combined 3 for 10 shooting.
“He did what our coaches and the NBA people advised him to do: get stronger and work on making more shots. He responded by investing a tremendous amount of his time in the offseason and came back to school a bigger, better and more confident player.”
Louisville coach Rick Pitino told me that Jackson reminds him of former Detroit Pistons star Richard Hamilton.
Jackson was named the ACC’s player of the year last season, receiving 24 of a possible 53 votes from ACC coaches and media members, beating out Wake Forest forward John Collins.
“We went through a very difficult ACC schedule and Justin gave our players a lot of confidence knowing that he would consistently be putting up 18-20 points, about five rebounds and some key assists each game,” Williams said.
“He listened to our coaching staff last spring about how to improve as a player and was determined to get better and stronger, which through his hard work and sweat, he is now reaping the benefits.”
Jackson, who measured at 201 pounds, said he’s trying to bulk up and get stronger.
He Who Posts Well
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Miami Heat, with decision at backup center, summons two intriguing prospects
BY BARRY JACKSON
bjackson@miamiherald.com
The Heat, unsure who will back up Hassan Whiteside next season, has invited two relatively inexperienced but talented centers to team headquarters for private workouts in the next couple of weeks, according to multiple league sources.
Creighton center Justin Patton and Texas center Jarrett Allen are both scheduled to work out for the Heat at AmericanAirlines Arena, with Allen’s session slated for June 18.
Both are 6-11 big men who turned pro after their freshman seasons.
The Heat has interest in keeping impending free agent center Willie Reed, who recently hired prominent NBA agent Andy Miller, but isn’t sure it will be able to afford him.
As an alternative to offering Reed any of its $38 million in cap space, the Heat also could offer Reed one of two exceptions that it has available – one for $3.3 million and another for $4.3 million – but Reed could command more than that in a market awash with cap space. Exceptions can neither be combined with each other or with cap space.
Patton averaged 12.9 points, 6.2 rebounds and 1.4 blocks in 25.3 minutes per game for Creighton, shooting 67.6 percent from the field and an eye-opening 8 for 15 on three-pointers. But he shot just 51.7 percent on free throws (45 for 87).
“Patton was one of the most efficient big men in the NCAA this season,” ESPN.com’s Chad Ford said. “His ability to score in the post and soft touch from the perimeter put him in contention with Gonzaga's Zach Collins for the best center prospect in the draft. He should go in the Nos. 15-25 range.”
Allen averaged 13.4 points, 8.5 rebounds and 1.5 blocks in his one year in Texas and played more minutes than Patton (32.2 per game, on average). He shot 56.6 percent from the field (missing all seven of his three-pointers) but only 56.4 percent from the line (84 for 149).
“Allen has stayed pretty firmly in the late-lottery to mid-first-round range since the beginning of the season,” Ford said. “His length, athleticism and rebounding were all major pluses during his freshman season in Austin. However, he must add strength and continue to improve his perimeter game. He should go somewhere in the Nos. 13-20 range.”
Ford has Allen going 19th and Patton 22nd in his latest mock draft.
The Heat previously worked out UCLA center Ike Anigbogu, who’s expected to go at least a bit later than the Heat’s pick.
“Anigbogu came off the bench for UCLA as a freshman and played limited minutes, but NBA teams see a ton of raw potential in him, especially as a rebounder and shot-blocker,” Ford said. “He already has an NBA body and a great motor; now it's about picking up some offensive skills. Although another year at UCLA could certainly benefit his development and draft stock, most teams have him ranked in the Nos. 17-35 range.”
The Heat also very likely would have interest in Gonzaga center Zach Collins, but many project him to go before the Heat picks at No. 14.
Ford, however, is among those who have him falling to Miami; he has the Heat picking Collins in his mock draft.
“Zach Collins has the unusual ability to both stretch the floor and protect the rim,” Ford said. “He's a good athlete, he's aggressive and his analytics scores are through the roof. He is in the mix as high as No. 9 to the Mavs. I don't think he slips past [Miami].”
The seven-foot Zach Collins, who left Gonzaga after one season, also could play power forward; he shot 10 for 21 on threes. Three Heat officials watched him closely at an agent-run workout in Chicago recently, but he is not scheduled to come to Miami for a workout.
Duke’s 6-10 Harry Giles, who has a history of knee problems, and Wake Forest’s John Collins are power forwards who also can play center. Both also are in the Heat’s draft range.
BY BARRY JACKSON
bjackson@miamiherald.com
The Heat, unsure who will back up Hassan Whiteside next season, has invited two relatively inexperienced but talented centers to team headquarters for private workouts in the next couple of weeks, according to multiple league sources.
Creighton center Justin Patton and Texas center Jarrett Allen are both scheduled to work out for the Heat at AmericanAirlines Arena, with Allen’s session slated for June 18.
Both are 6-11 big men who turned pro after their freshman seasons.
The Heat has interest in keeping impending free agent center Willie Reed, who recently hired prominent NBA agent Andy Miller, but isn’t sure it will be able to afford him.
As an alternative to offering Reed any of its $38 million in cap space, the Heat also could offer Reed one of two exceptions that it has available – one for $3.3 million and another for $4.3 million – but Reed could command more than that in a market awash with cap space. Exceptions can neither be combined with each other or with cap space.
Patton averaged 12.9 points, 6.2 rebounds and 1.4 blocks in 25.3 minutes per game for Creighton, shooting 67.6 percent from the field and an eye-opening 8 for 15 on three-pointers. But he shot just 51.7 percent on free throws (45 for 87).
“Patton was one of the most efficient big men in the NCAA this season,” ESPN.com’s Chad Ford said. “His ability to score in the post and soft touch from the perimeter put him in contention with Gonzaga's Zach Collins for the best center prospect in the draft. He should go in the Nos. 15-25 range.”
Allen averaged 13.4 points, 8.5 rebounds and 1.5 blocks in his one year in Texas and played more minutes than Patton (32.2 per game, on average). He shot 56.6 percent from the field (missing all seven of his three-pointers) but only 56.4 percent from the line (84 for 149).
“Allen has stayed pretty firmly in the late-lottery to mid-first-round range since the beginning of the season,” Ford said. “His length, athleticism and rebounding were all major pluses during his freshman season in Austin. However, he must add strength and continue to improve his perimeter game. He should go somewhere in the Nos. 13-20 range.”
Ford has Allen going 19th and Patton 22nd in his latest mock draft.
The Heat previously worked out UCLA center Ike Anigbogu, who’s expected to go at least a bit later than the Heat’s pick.
“Anigbogu came off the bench for UCLA as a freshman and played limited minutes, but NBA teams see a ton of raw potential in him, especially as a rebounder and shot-blocker,” Ford said. “He already has an NBA body and a great motor; now it's about picking up some offensive skills. Although another year at UCLA could certainly benefit his development and draft stock, most teams have him ranked in the Nos. 17-35 range.”
The Heat also very likely would have interest in Gonzaga center Zach Collins, but many project him to go before the Heat picks at No. 14.
Ford, however, is among those who have him falling to Miami; he has the Heat picking Collins in his mock draft.
“Zach Collins has the unusual ability to both stretch the floor and protect the rim,” Ford said. “He's a good athlete, he's aggressive and his analytics scores are through the roof. He is in the mix as high as No. 9 to the Mavs. I don't think he slips past [Miami].”
The seven-foot Zach Collins, who left Gonzaga after one season, also could play power forward; he shot 10 for 21 on threes. Three Heat officials watched him closely at an agent-run workout in Chicago recently, but he is not scheduled to come to Miami for a workout.
Duke’s 6-10 Harry Giles, who has a history of knee problems, and Wake Forest’s John Collins are power forwards who also can play center. Both also are in the Heat’s draft range.
Captain Crunch
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I know I've mentioned it before, but with Dwight expanding his range, don't you guys think Hassan should continue taking jumpers as well?
