Floyd Mayweather Jr-Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

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Breh, Floyd will NEVER agree to a contract where Mayweather Promotions isn't involved in any part of the promotion either.

That contract up above is garbage and also, ain't nobody fighting in Dubai breh. You know what time that fight card would start over there? For example....it's 1:27 pm EST right now in America, in Dubai, it's 10:27 pm right now. The PPV would be on right now:dead:

:russ: lmao not only would the fight start at a crazy time, but the temperature would throw off so many fighters. When frankie edgar and Bj penn (ufc)fought in abu dhabi, fighters was passing out from the heat in the stadium and shyt lol
 

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AGREEMENT made this ____ day of October, 2012, between the Royal Emirates Group, a Dubai, UAE Company (hereinafter referred to as “Promoter”)

So where does that put Arum and Mayweather as the promoters?

:camby: for both sides just off the first sentence in the contract.
 

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(*) Fighters hereby irrevocably grant Promoter the unconditional and exclusive right, throughout the world, to use, simulate, and portray all aspects of Fighters image, whether live, recorded or photographed, in connection with the Contest hereunder, including without limitation, Fighters names (including alias, pseudonyms or ‘nicknames’), likeness, personal appearance, voice, personality, personal identification, personal and professional characteristics and experiences, professional boxing talent, skills, technique and biography

I don't even think a crackhead would accept that. Both fighters, networks and their promotional teams involved just give up all royalties to the most lucrative fight ever. :bryan:
 

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Manny got a base pay of $6 million.. BASE PAY.., but how much of the rest of hiw guarantee went to Manny Pacquiao Promotions? How much did he get after ppv was tallied?? We know he gets a lot from the ppv revenue.. How much did he take in advance before the fight?? Pacquiao getting money from several different outlets and is doing it this way for tax reasons:mjpls:

The revenue brought in by each party has nothing to do with a picture of a check. You cant be this ignorant :skip:

This is how I know you're a moron. So you are saying the Purse a fighter receives has no correlation to the revenue he will bring in? shyt for brains fat Jesus strikes again

The rest of his guarentee? His guarentee is $6million - thats filed, the rest is whatever Arum says :mjlol:

Whatever else he earns is on backend. Backend which is very very sketchy with arum involved, and with Pacs tax avoidance schemes . . Now why wont Pac reveal to Floyd what the revenues for his fights are/were?

Isnt it strange that Pac would have to demand advances (paid back with interest to Arum) if he was earning these blockbuster payouts from his fights :mjcry:

Now, Pac just needs to stop ducking and dodging :ufdup:
 

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This is how I know you're a moron. So you are saying the Purse a fighter receives has no correlation to the revenue he will bring in? shyt for brains fat Jesus strikes again

The rest of his guarentee? His guarentee is $6million - thats filed, the rest is whatever Arum says :mjlol:

Whatever else he earns is on backend. Backend which is very very sketchy with arum involved, and with Pacs tax avoidance schemes . . Now why wont Pac reveal to Floyd what the revenues for his fights are/were?

Isnt it strange that Pac would have to demand advances (paid back with interest to Arum) if he was earning these blockbuster payouts from his fights :mjcry:

Now, Pac just needs to stop ducking and dodging :ufdup:
I never said anything about there being no correlation between revenue and purse split.. Matter of fact I specifically said
60/40 isn't justified by a picture of a hand written check though... Its justified by the revenue that gets brought in by both parties
Only "shyt for brains" here is you son.. You're very ignorant and have very low reading comprehension.. What I said was that showing a pucture of a single check doesn't prove how much total a fighter gets.. Pac got a $6 million check right after the fight, but we already know Pac gets paid in advancements. So anyone with an ounce of intelligence should know that the base purse he received right after the fight is only part of his guaranteed purse.. An advancement is not the same as loan you fukking dumbass, so why would Pac have to "pay back with interst" something that will be inherited anyway?? An advancement is an advancement
 

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You said :
The revenue brought in by each party has nothing to do with a picture of a check. You cant be this ignorant :skip:

now you know them checks were said fighters purse, but then you said :

I never said anything about there being no correlation between revenue and purse split.. Matter of fact I specifically said
Only "shyt for brains" here is you son.. You're very ignorant and have very low reading comprehension.. What I said was that showing a pucture of a single check doesn't prove how much total a fighter gets.. Pac got a $6 million check right after the fight, but we already know Pac gets paid in advancements. So anyone with an ounce of intelligence should know that the base purse he received right after the fight is only part of his guaranteed purse.. An advancement is not the same as loan you fukking dumbass, so why would Pac have to "pay back with interst" something that will be inherited anyway?? An advancement is an advancement

You're right about the advancement, i read that Manny was taking loans from arum to stay afloat. However, then you should know that his advances are subtracted from his payment "right after the fight" so that $6million isnt even $6million :sas2:. We know how much of a master accountant manny is though dont we . . .
Pacquiao was guaranteed a minimum purse of $2,000,000 for the Morales rematch. Subsequent to the fight, after deductions, Pacquiao received $313,446.

shyt doesnt add up Fat jesus. No one with a functioning brain believes Arum claims on "guarentees".


Bottom line is Why are Pac and Arum keeping them books closed from Floyd? Floyd seems pretty open about how much he is getting in guarenteed Purses which is verified by the NSAC - so this picture of a check does have some substance :manny: We know whats happening on the backend with PPVs/gates/closed circuit for floyds fights.

Haymon/Floyd have called Arums/Pacs bluff enough times here, the ducking by Pac has to stop.
Now, Pac just needs to stop ducking and dodging :ufdup:
 

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You're right about the advancement, i read that Manny was taking loans from arum to stay afloat. However, then you should know that his advances are subtracted from his payment "right after the fight" so that $6million isnt even $6million :sas2:. We know how much of a master accountant manny is though dont we . . .
You didn't hear shyt about Pac taking out no fukking loan from Arum... You heard about Pacquiao taking an ADVANCEMENT from Arum.. An advancement is not a loan dummy.. If you take a second from purposely trying to be stupid and THINK.. If Manny Pacquiao was getting advancements before the fight.. before he recieved a $6 million check, shouldn't that tell your silly ass that his guarantee was more than $6 million??

Bottom line is Why are Pac and Arum keeping them books closed from Floyd? Floyd seems pretty open about how much he is getting in guarenteed Purses which is verified by the NSAC - so this picture of a check does have some substance :manny: We know whats happening on the backend with PPVs/gates/closed circuit for floyds fights.
you dont know whats happening on the back end.. the two checks you seen Floyd post were his guaranteed purse in its entirety.. And the $6 million you saw Pac receive was ONE installment.. Nothing has been shown to the public officially about what Floyd or Manny receives on the back end..
 

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You didn't hear shyt about Pac taking out no fukking loan from Arum... You heard about Pacquiao taking an ADVANCEMENT from Arum.. An advancement is not a loan dummy.. If you take a second from purposely trying to be stupid and THINK.. If Manny Pacquiao was getting advancements before the fight.. before he recieved a $6 million check, shouldn't that tell your silly ass that his guarantee was more than $6 million??

you dont know whats happening on the back end.. the two checks you seen Floyd post were his guaranteed purse in its entirety.. And the $6 million you saw Pac receive was ONE installment.. Nothing has been shown to the public officially about what Floyd or Manny receives on the back end..

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According to a January 19th letter prepared by Nick Khan (one of Pacquiao's current co-managers) and submitted to the Nevada State Athletic Commission, Pacquiao was guaranteed a minimum purse of $2,000,000 for the Morales rematch. Subsequent to the fight, after deductions, Pacquiao received $313,446. That's not as bad as it sounds, but the question remains: "Where did the rest of the $2,000,000 go?"

Pursuant to the managerial contract, Shelly Finkel is entitled to receive twelve percent of Pacquiao's gross purse from the Morales rematch. That means, in addition to his percentage of future income from the fight, he was entitled to $240,000 out of the $2,000,000 minimum purse. Finkel deferred $40,000 of this amount in the form of a loan to Pacquiao and received the remaining $200,000.

Nick Khan is entitled to receive 4.64 percent of Pacquiao's gross purse from the Morales rematch. That means, in addition to his percentage of future income from the fight, he was entitled to $92,800 out of the $2,000,000 minimum purse. Khan deferred $11,600 of this amount in the form of a loan to Pacquiao and received the remaining $81,200.

Keith Davidson is entitled to receive 3.36 percent of Pacquiao's gross purse from the Morales rematch. That means, in addition to his percentage of future income from the fight, he was entitled to $67,200 out of the $2,000,000 minimum purse. Davidson deferred $8,400 of this amount in the form of a loan to Pacquiao and received the remaining $58,800.

Freddie Roach (Pacquiao's trainer), is entitled to ten percent of Pacquiao's gross purse from the Pacquiao-Morales rematch. That means, in addition to his percentage of future income from the fight, he was entitled to $200,000 out of the $2,000,000 advance. Roach deferred $40,000 of this amount in the form of a loan to Pacquiao and received the remaining $160,000.

Other deductions included $376,666 in payments to the Internal Revenue Service on behalf of Pacquiao for present and back taxes; a $200,000 advance from Top Rank (believed to have gone to Pacquiao); $80,350 to Top Rank for Pacquiao-Morales fight tickets requested by Pacquiao; $75,000 to assistant trainer Restituto Fernandez; $50,000 to translator and camp aide Joe Ramos; $4,708 to Shelly Finkel for airplane tickets for Pacquiao's wife and one of Pacquiao's friends; $2,000 to the WBC as a sanctioning fee (the fee was relatively low because the fight was for a regional title); and $25,000 that was withheld by the Nevada State Athletic Commission pending the result of Pacquiao's post-fight drug test.

There were also $372,839 in deductions paid to Gary Shaw Productions (Pacquiao's promoter). Top Rank (Bob Arum's promotional company) was the lead promoter for the fight and did the bulk of the promotional work. Shaw was brought in by Pacquiao's management team to look after Pacquiao's interests.

In addition to performing his promotional duties, Shaw developed a great fondness for Pacquiao. It troubled Gary that, when Pacquiao fought Erik Morales the first time, Murad Muhammad had enjoyed a luxurious suite while the fighter was consigned to lesser quarters. Thus, for Morales-Pacquiao II, Shaw arranged for Manny to be lodged in a luxurious two-bedroom suite with a wet bar, plasma TVs, and other amenities. Shaw says that escorting Pacquiao to his suite was a great moment. "It made me feel good," said Gary, "just to see Manny's reaction." He had a smile like a kid at his first Christmas."

Deductions paid to Shaw included $3,200 for tickets to the rematch between Diego Corrales and Jose Luis Castillo requested by Pacquiao; $52,000 in additional advances (believed to have been paid to the fighter); and $67,639 for a Porsche purchased on behalf of Pacquiao.

In addition, Gary Shaw Productions received a flat fee of $250,000 for its services as Pacquiao's promoter with regard to the Morales rematch. This fee was negotiated by Shaw with Shelly Finkel and Nick Khan. The terms of Shaw's promotional agreement were explained to Pacquiao in Tagalog, and Pacquiao signed the agreement. It appears from the aforementioned January 19th letter prepared by Khan that the $250,000 promotional fee was charged in its entirety to Pacquiao. This conclusion is based on the fact that the portions of the $2,000,000 minimum purse listed as being due to Finkel, Khan, Davidson, and Roach are calculated as percentages of the entire minimum purse; not the minimum purse less Shaw's $250,000 promotional fee. Also, in a January 27th letter, Bruce Zabarauskas (counsel for Finkel) states that Finkel, Khan, Davidson, and Roach are entitled to their percentages based on Pacquiao's "gross purse." If Finkel, Khan, Davidson, and Roach had shared in the cost of Shaw's promotional fee, Pacquiao would, without other adjustments, have received an additional $75,000.

Looks like that $200k advance he got for the morales rematch from Bob came back out of his $2million purse check in this instance :ufdup:



Nah fat Jesus i read that he got loans from Arum - http://www.manilatimes.net/pacquiao-going-bankrupt/33983/

So purse received and the revenue that each fighter brings to the table are relative then right?? :umad:

and to summarise,

Pac gotta stop ducking and dodging :ufdup:
 

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Looks like that $200k advance he got for the morales rematch from Bob came back out of his $2million purse check in this instance :ufdup:



Nah fat Jesus i read that he got loans from Arum - http://www.manilatimes.net/pacquiao-going-bankrupt/33983/

So purse received and the revenue that each fighter brings to the table are relative then right?? :umad:

and to summarise,

Pac gotta stop ducking and dodging :ufdup:

no wonder most ex boxers are broke, everybody has their hand in the cookie jar

its pathetic and sad at the same time
 

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nikkas is too worried about what the next man is making for the fight instead of just you know....making the fight.

Fight ain't happening because of that.

Exactly.

Floyd is more concerned with Pacquiao making less than 40 million then he is about getting his own money:snoop:

65/35 split (which was offered by Showtime to TR when they offered Pacquiao 40 million guaranteed with a 35% upside) means there is 114 million available, and Floyd would get 74 million and 65% upside.....but apparently that is going unnoticed because people would rather argue about Manny's checks for Algieri and Rios in order to defend Floyd's stance of Pacquiao taking less than the 40 million that was already offered:wow:

Once again, a 65/35 split (going by Showtime's offer) means:
Floyd would get 74 million guaranteed and 65% upside
Pacquiao would get 40 million guaranteed and 35% upside

This fight should've BEEN signed:camby:
 
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