Floyd Mayweather Jr-Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

[Black_Jesus]

You seem to have missed the entire point of what I've been saying. Somehow that does not surprise me.

I understood what you were saying perfectly..
Its funny how nikkas is trying to blame Arum and Pacquiao for the date issue when Oscar and Canelo are the ones snatching the date from Floyd.. I find this hilarious actually... All Arum did was comment on it

 

[THE MACHINE]

What did he say that was wrong?

Why CANT they fight in April or June?

Sounds like a way for Floyd stans to claim TR is ducking, while in reality, Floyd is the one secretly negotiating with Khan all along instead of taking the 100 million to fight Pacquiao

I don't know breh, sounds like ducking.

This is the biggest fight in recent memory. If there is a date available, make the fight. If it's so sacred for Bob, tell him to load up the undercard with Mexican fighters. No need to start acting silly over dates. Tell Cotto and Canelo they need to fall back, Canelo's time is coming.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

They can, but if Floyd agreed to an April or June date Arum would just pop up with another excuse - just like he did with May 2 (Arum suddenly shares some deep affinity with the Mexican people? FOH) and just like he did last time Floyd tried to make the fight, before he went to prison (what was it that time, something about cuts, needing time to build a stadium, etc?). It's becoming increasingly obvious that Pac, or at the very least Arum, do not really want this fight.

What Bob is trying to do here is very transparent...The issue here is the money, he doesn't have the leverage to get anything more than a 60/40 split...He is trying to gain an edge wherever he can to bring the split closer to 50/50...Moving the fight away from that May date allows him to play the Mayweather PPV numbers were affected by the holiday weekend card...The more cards you have to play at the table, the better chance you have to get what you want...

Bottomline here is this fight isn't happening unless Manny forces Bob to accept a deal...I was optimistic a few weeks ago but as soon as Bob starts complaining to the media you know its a wrap...This clown simply won't negotiate in good faith and accept the fact his side is the B side...

 

[THE MACHINE]

What Bob is trying to do here is very transparent...The issue here is the money, he doesn't have the leverage to get anything more than a 60/40 split...He is trying to gain an edge wherever he can to bring the split closer to 50/50...Moving the fight away from that May date allows him to play the Mayweather PPV numbers were affected by the holiday weekend card...The more cards you have to play at the table, the better chance you have to get what you want...

Bottomline here is this fight isn't happening unless Manny forces Bob to accept a deal...I was optimistic a few weeks ago but as soon as Bob starts complaining to the media you know its a wrap...This clown simply won't negotiate in good faith and accept the fact his side is the B side...

Yep,

Pacquiao vs Hatton 5/2/2009
Pacquiao vs Mosley 5/7/2011
Where are the Mexicans Bob?



Arum

 

[Black_Jesus]

What Bob is trying to do here is very transparent...The issue here is the money, he doesn't have the leverage to get anything more than a 60/40 split...He is trying to gain an edge wherever he can to bring the split closer to 50/50...Moving the fight away from that May date allows him to play the Mayweather PPV numbers were affected by the holiday weekend card...The more cards you have to play at the table, the better chance you have to get what you want...

Bottomline here is this fight isn't happening unless Manny forces Bob to accept a deal...I was optimistic a few weeks ago but as soon as Bob starts complaining to the media you know its a wrap...This clown simply won't negotiate in good faith and accept the fact his side is the B side...

Or Floyd can just fight Pac on a different date
Canelo is fighting on that day... and has Golden Boy behind him.. His opponent is a Cotto, who's represented by TR. What can Floyd possibly do to oppose them accept for simply figting Pac on any other day?

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Or Floyd can just fight Pac on a different date
Canelo is fighting on that day... and has Golden Boy behind him.. His opponent is a Cotto, who's represented by TR. What can Floyd possibly do to oppose them accept for simply figting Pac on any other day?

Show me where Cotto has agreed or expressed any interest in fighting Canelo on that May date...

 

[THE MACHINE]

Or Floyd can just fight Pac on a different date
Canelo is fighting on that day... and has Golden Boy behind him.. His opponent is a Cotto, who's represented by TR. What can Floyd possibly do to oppose them accept for simply figting Pac on any other day?

Is he really, I haven't seen a signed contract. I haven't seen a confirmed location. I haven't seen a confirmed opponent. All this "May 2nd is my day" talk from Canelo is still just talk. God bless him for wanting to fight on Cinco de Mayo but Oscar knows Canelo's place in boxing, and it's behind Mayweather and Pacquiao.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Show me where Cotto has agreed or expressed any interest in fighting Canelo on that May date...

where you been breh?? They're currently negotiating the purse split now... This is happening. Floyd fukked up for turning his back on Golden Boy

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Is he really, I haven't seen a signed contract. I haven't seen a confirmed location. I haven't seen a confirmed opponent. All this "May 2nd is my day" talk from Canelo is still just talk. God bless him for wanting to fight on Cinco de Mayo but Oscar knows Canelo's place in boxing, and it's behind Mayweather and Pacquiao.

To add to that DLH has said if Floyd/Manny agree to terms for May 2nd Canelo will step aside...

So the only one making a big deal out of May 2nd is Bob Arum...The hilarious thing about it is the fighter he is representing (Cotto) has openly said he don't even want to fight on that weekend...

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

where you been breh?? They're currently negotiating the purse split now... This is happening. Floyd fukked up for turning his back on Golden Boy

Show me where terms have been agreed on for May 2nd...

You keep saying its happening yet have no proof of any sort of agreement...shyt is dumb stupid...

 

[Black_Jesus]

Show me where terms have been agreed on for May 2nd...

You keep saying its happening yet have no proof of any sort of agreement...shyt is dumb stupid...

Are you illiterate?? I clearly just said they are negotiating the purse for that date

 

[spencerforhire]

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/12/20/14/floyd-may-be-using-pacquiao-get-cinco-de-mayo

'Floyd may be using Pacquiao to get Cinco de Mayo'

Floyd just wants the fight date, says Kellerman
MANILA, Philippines – Floyd Mayweather Jr. may only be using Manny Pacquiao as a ''pawn'' to get the May 2 fight date which coincides with the Mexican holiday ''Cinco de Mayo,'' according to HBO color commentator Max Kellerman.

Kellerman said the Cinco de Mayo weekend is important for Mayweather because the most popular boxer traditionally fights on that date.

“Cinco de Mayo, that weekend is the signature of the biggest fighter in boxing,” Kellerman said in Tha Boxing Voice.

Kellerman thinks Mayweather was already aware that Saul “Canelo” Alvarez and Miguel Cotto are fighting on the Cinco de Mayo weekend when the American boxer demanded that his super fight with Pacquiao take place on May 2.

“I believe the reason Floyd is so seriously engaging with the Pacquiao talks now is [he doesn’t want to lose the date to Cotto-Canelo], otherwise Floyd, for the first time in six or seven years, can get bumped by a bigger fight. So if he fights Pacquiao he bumps them,” speculated the analyst.

But Kellerman said Mayweather is likely to fight another boxer on May 2. He thinks “Money Mayweather” will be saving Pacquiao for a latter date for lengthier promotion time.

“I do not believe he will fight Pacquiao in May, it’s too soon to get the promotion going the way [it needs to be done], he’ll fight like Amir Khan or someone like that in May, but have that date for him using Pacquiao as leverage to scare the other fight off,” he said.

''Then, I believe Floyd and Pacquiao, if they both win their next fights, will fight in September [of next year].''

 

[merklman]

Im not sure what im supposed to respond to or what a picture of a Floyd paycheck has to do with discussion.

Pacquiao makes way more than $6 million.. only an idiot would speak such nonsense

Floyd/Haymon need to agree to the terms (or file them reciepts ) instead of ducking, hes made a habit of it for the last 6 years and put the blame on the guy who has actively trying to make the fight

Floyd needs to stop ducking and dodging

You asked to see some reciepts but are confused now that you see them?
You're a clown Fat Jesus

Pac can get his $6million + when they can produce them reciepts but first he needs to stop ducking and dodging

 

[Big Boss]

Show me where Cotto has agreed or expressed any interest in fighting Canelo on that May date...

Is he really, I haven't seen a signed contract. I haven't seen a confirmed location. I haven't seen a confirmed opponent. All this "May 2nd is my day" talk from Canelo is still just talk. God bless him for wanting to fight on Cinco de Mayo but Oscar knows Canelo's place in boxing, and it's behind Mayweather and Pacquiao.

where you been breh?? They're currently negotiating the purse split now... This is happening. Floyd fukked up for turning his back on Golden Boy

Cotto on Negotiations with Canelo: ‘It’s Done in Oscar’s Mind and in Bob’s Mind but in Miguel Cotto’s Mind It’s Not’




Miguel Cotto was on hand at the WBC Convention and while the masses were celebrating the past and the future at the Convention, the focus of Miguel Cotto-Canelo Alvarez could not be escaped by Cotto. Is the deal done? Is it close? Miguel Cotto played Miguel Cotto well with a poker face and poker answers


We're just waiting on our dance partner. We're always going to pick the best option,; Cotto told ThaBoxingVoice.com. All weve discussed with Canelo is up in the air, all is negotiations, and there is nothing definite at this point.

Oscar De La Hoya had went public letting the world know that Canelo had agreed to his part of the deal, Cottos response was, If its done in Oscar*s mind and in Bobs (Arum) mind but in Miguel Cottos mind, its not.

When asked about his newly announced mandatory Gennady Golovkin, Cotto stated, Hes a great fighter and a great champions and well see what happens next.

Cotto told ThaBoxingVoice that the Canelo side now has his terms and the balls in their court now.


We've made what we wanted clear to the other side and now were waiting on the other side to respond, explained Cotto. Miguels always going to go to what benefits Miguel the most, so now were just waiting. All I want is the best for my career. I didnt put any conditions on Canelo. Im simply just letting them know what I think Im worth and earned the right to do so throughout the years. The balls in their court so now they can decide what they want to do.


Cotto said the date and venue have no preference and anything being mentioned is all rumors in the air.


Theres nothing concrete right now so im going to be patient and its all speculation so well see what the new year brings.


http://thaboxingvoice.com/cotto-on-...-mind-but-in-miguel-cottos-mind-its-not/37182

 

[Dragonfly Jones]

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/12/20/14/floyd-may-be-using-pacquiao-get-cinco-de-mayo

'Floyd may be using Pacquiao to get Cinco de Mayo'

Floyd just wants the fight date, says Kellerman
MANILA, Philippines – Floyd Mayweather Jr. may only be using Manny Pacquiao as a ''pawn'' to get the May 2 fight date which coincides with the Mexican holiday ''Cinco de Mayo,'' according to HBO color commentator Max Kellerman.

Kellerman said the Cinco de Mayo weekend is important for Mayweather because the most popular boxer traditionally fights on that date.

“Cinco de Mayo, that weekend is the signature of the biggest fighter in boxing,” Kellerman said in Tha Boxing Voice.

Kellerman thinks Mayweather was already aware that Saul “Canelo” Alvarez and Miguel Cotto are fighting on the Cinco de Mayo weekend when the American boxer demanded that his super fight with Pacquiao take place on May 2.

“I believe the reason Floyd is so seriously engaging with the Pacquiao talks now is [he doesn’t want to lose the date to Cotto-Canelo], otherwise Floyd, for the first time in six or seven years, can get bumped by a bigger fight. So if he fights Pacquiao he bumps them,” speculated the analyst.

But Kellerman said Mayweather is likely to fight another boxer on May 2. He thinks “Money Mayweather” will be saving Pacquiao for a latter date for lengthier promotion time.

“I do not believe he will fight Pacquiao in May, it’s too soon to get the promotion going the way [it needs to be done], he’ll fight like Amir Khan or someone like that in May, but have that date for him using Pacquiao as leverage to scare the other fight off,” he said.

''Then, I believe Floyd and Pacquiao, if they both win their next fights, will fight in September [of next year].''

I honestly don't mind if Pac/Manny doesn't happen in May, as long as it happens sometime in mid-late 2015 I will be satisfied

I'm patient, just make it happen