Floyd Mayweather Jr-Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

[Newzz]

Do you know what worldwide means?

Japan is a major boxing outlet especially at the lighter divisions where they have champions

WBO came out in the 90s and was recognized as a real back until the late 90's, here in America, it took them all the way up to 2013 to get the WORLD to recognize them

the belt is a joke

Do YOU know what you are saying?


How about this....the IBF was formed in 1983 and wasnt recognized by Japan until 2013 just like the WBO (the WBO was formed in 1988)


What you're saying by saying the WBO wasnt world wide, is that IBF wasnt world wide EITHER until 30 years after their formation

 

[Master Teacher]

Do YOU know what you are saying?


How about this....the IBF was formed in 1983 and wasnt recognized by Japan until 2013 just like the WBO (the WBO was formed in 1988)


What you're saying by saying the WBO wasnt world wide, is that IBF wasnt world wide EITHER until 30 years after their formation

No shyt

I never put the IBF above the WBC and WBA

I said it's step above the WBO because Larry Homes legitimized in the 80's

Just admit I'm right, this why I can't stand you nikkaz

I said the WBA and WBC are the only belts that matter

and you talking about the IBF, to discredit my claims about the WBO

shut the fukk up

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Corny excuse

If you think Trout is in the same class as Vargas, Carr, Reid, Winky, Hopkins, Oscar...etc, and think that Cotto beats those guys then well....aint shyt for me to say really.

You replied with some shyt about Dawson that had shyt to do with discussing Cotto's legacy in comparsion to Titos. If you're supposed to be a better fighter than Tito, you're supposed to beat guys like Trout. Floyd and Manny are ATG's so those are cool, but Margarito and Trout losses don't look good when your an elite fighter.

at you saying I had a corny excuse. The fact that you defending the WOAT's boxing knowledge is even more corny.

Nobody in their right mind would say Cotto is better ATG wise than Trinidad, but hey ya'll can go ahead and cook.

 

[blackestofpanthers]

If you think Trout is in the same class as Vargas, Carr, Reid, Winky, Hopkins, Oscar...etc, and think that Cotto beats those guys then well....aint shyt for me to say really.

You replied with some shyt about Dawson that had shyt to do with discussing Cotto's legacy in comparsion to Titos. If you're supposed to be a better fighter than Tito, you're supposed to beat guys like Trout. Floyd and Manny are ATG's so those are cool, but Margarito and Trout losses don't look good when your an elite fighter.

at you saying I had a corny excuse. The fact that you defending the WOAT's boxing knowledge is even more corny.

Nobody in their right mind would say Cotto is better ATG wise than Trinidad, but hey ya'll can go ahead and cook.

I didn't defend anyone you fukking moron, i said he deserves it and so does the other dude. I never said trout was in the same class as anyone. I was simply using your silly logic against you. Anyone can say " well he lost to this guy who isn't in the same class as this other guy, so he'd lose to all of those guys". Everyone knows that's not how it works though. Great fighters have lost to lesser guys since boxing was invented .
Fact is i never even gave my opinion on cotto, i just pointed out your dumb flawed logic.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Dawson is out here catching fades after Ward done took his soul and Superman done crushed the remaining particles.

While Cotto losing to Trout after giving Floyd a good fight and being on a lil win streak after the Manny lost.

Dawson was damaged goods, you can't even compare the 2 time periods in their careers. I mean Cotto at least beat Yuri Foreman after his loss. Dawson's 3rd fight back is to a average ass bum and he getting rocked and losing hometown decisions. He couldn't beat a FNF level guy. I mean c'mon. Foreman is at least ShoBox and ppv undercard status.


but I digress. Try and drop knowledge in a Floyd/Manny thread brehs.

 

[Newzz]

No shyt

I never put the IBF above the WBC and WBA

I said it's step above the WBO because Larry Homes legitimized in the 80's

Just admit I'm right, this why I can't stand you nikkaz

I said the WBA and WBC are the only belts that matter

and you talking about the IBF, to discredit my claims about the WBO

shut the fukk up

This is what you said you dumb ass fool

I've already explained this

Larry Homes legitimized the IBF, the WBO wasn't even recognized world wide until 2013

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/11982583/

How the fukk did Larry Holmes "legitimize" the IBF all the way back in 1984 as their very first Champion, but Oscar De La Hoya (for example) didnt legitimize the WBO when he was their Champion in 1994


Your dumb ass tried to use the WBO not being worthy or holding weight because they werent recognized as World Wide, all because Japan didnt recognize them until 2013. When I inform your stupid ass that they didnt recognize the IBF until 2013 either....your retarded ass tries to spin your way out of it. But no, you fukked up



THAT'S why you wear the pink tag, because you barely know shyt about boxing

 

[Master Teacher]

This is what you said you dumb ass fool





How the fukk did Larry Holmes "legitimize" the IBF all the way back in 1984 as their very first Champion, but Oscar De La Hoya (for example) didnt legitimize the WBO when he was their Champion in 1994


Your dumb ass tried to use the WBO not being worthy or holding weight because they werent recognized as World Wide, all because Japan didnt recognize them until 2013. When I inform your stupid ass that they didnt recognize the IBF until 2013 either....your retarded ass tries to spin your way out of it. But no, you fukked up



THAT'S why you wear the pink tag, because you barely know shyt about boxing

Goddamn damn you dumb as fukk

You are a PRIME EXAMPLE of somebody who don't know shiit

I didn't say WBO LEGITIMIZED, and I said it wasn't RECOGNIZED

I never said just because Larry Homes legitimized the IBF, that was on the same level as the WBC and WBA

also Oscar didn't legitimize shyt when he won the WBO belt, Whitaker was the WBC champion and the best
The WBO was vacant when Oscar got it, Oscar wasn't the man until he got the WBC belt from Chavez

Larry Holmes was THE BEST fighter on the planet when was the IBF champ
and he PROVED IT

WBO wasn't legit until the late 90s

nobody cares about that IBF belt just like nobody cares about the WBO Belt

THE WBC and The WBA are the only belts that matter in the grand scheme of things

what is so hard for you to understand

the IBF is like a place holder until you fight the real champ, just like the WBO belt

 

[Black_Jesus]

Goddamn I'm a moron, google

once again people say shyt like this, then I prove them wrong, they don't even said my bad, or even acknowledge they don't know shyt

answer question if Japan

http://www.wboboxing.com/japan-decides-to-recogniza-the-wbo/

this is from the WBO website

so if Japan didn't recognize them unil 2013, HOW COULD THEY BE POSSIBLE RECOGNIZED WORLD WIDE before then

Im not trying to hear all that faggity reaching bullshyt.. your post was made simply to try to continue belittling the WBO organization and its champions when infact, The WBC and WBA both recognize the WBO fighters within their rankings as equal champions, and have done so for over 20 years... If countries recognize the WBC that means they recognize their rankings as well so by default those countries are recognizing the WBO champions

 

[Master Teacher]

Im not trying to hear all that faggity reaching bullshyt.. your post was made simply to try to continue belittling the WBO organization and its champions when infact, The WBC and WBA both recognize the WBO fighters within their rankings as equal champions, and have done so for over 20 years... If countries recognize the WBC that means they recognize their rankings as well so by default those countries are recognizing the WBO champions

I'm not belittle anything I am STATING FACTS

the WBO Champions are not even comparable to the WBC champions historically, it I a joke

 

[The Infamous]

Arguing with Master Teacher:

 

[krackdagawd]

Arguing with Master Teacher:

I don't know how dude is in his mma posts but in the boxing related shyt it's plain as day to spot he is a google gangster. These types of dudes expose themselves quick in boxing discussions because their arguments lack context. I peeped that shyt back during his Trinidad arguments and knew what time it was. :whodis:

 

[The Infamous]

I don't know how dude is in his mma posts but in the boxing related shyt it's plain as day to spot he is a google gangster. These types of dudes expose themselves quick in boxing discussions because their arguments lack context. I peeped that shyt back during his Trinidad arguments and knew what time it was. :whodis:

I think his MMA posts are even more He straight up makes up shyt

Master Teacher is already making an early run for that WPOY2015

 

[Newzz]

Goddamn damn you dumb as fukk

You are a PRIME EXAMPLE of somebody who don't know shiit

I didn't say WBO LEGITIMIZED, and I said it wasn't RECOGNIZED

I never said just because Larry Homes legitimized the IBF, that was on the same level as the WBC and WBA

also Oscar didn't legitimize shyt when he won the WBO belt, Whitaker was the WBC champion and the best
The WBO was vacant when Oscar got it, Oscar wasn't the man until he got the WBC belt from Chavez

Larry Holmes was THE BEST fighter on the planet when was the IBF champ
and he PROVED IT

WBO wasn't legit until the late 90s

nobody cares about that IBF belt just like nobody cares about the WBO Belt

THE WBC and The WBA are the only belts that matter in the grand scheme of things

what is so hard for you to understand

the IBF is like a place holder until you fight the real champ, just like the WBO belt

I bolded these 2 things JUST to show and point out how stupid you are and how you talk out of both sides of your mouth


You just said: "Bu-bu-but Newzz, I never said the WBO wasnt legitimized" and then turn your dumb ass around and say "WBO wasnt legit until the late 90's"


Which one is it clown?


Again, the IBF and WBO didnt become, according to YOUR dumb logic "world wide" until 2013 when the JBC accepted them when that's false


ALSO, you fukking fool....there is NO BOXING ORGANIZATION THAT IS ACCEPTED IN EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY. That includes the WBA/WBC/IBF/WBO


And as far as legitimacy......Hector Camacho beat Ray Mancini to become the 1st WBO Junior Welterweight Champion only 1 year after the WBO was formed. John David Jackson became the WBO Junior Middleweight Champion the same year the WBO was formed. Nigel Benn became the 1st WBO Middleweight Champion 1 year after the WBO was formed. Thomas Hearns was the 1st WBO Super Middleweight Champion the same year the WBO was formed. Michael Moorer became the 1st WBO Light Heavyweight Champion the same year the WBO was formed.

I just cant listen to some dude tell me that the WBO wasnt "legit" until the late 90s when elite fighters held the belt in the fukking 80's


Learn more about boxing before responding to me.

 

[Master Teacher]

I bolded these 2 things JUST to show and point out how stupid you are and how you talk out of both sides of your mouth


You just said: "Bu-bu-but Newzz, I never said the WBO wasnt legitimized" and then turn your dumb ass around and say "WBO wasnt legit until the late 90's"


Which one is it clown?


Again, the IBF and WBO didnt become, according to YOUR dumb logic "world wide" until 2013 when the JBC accepted them


And as far as legitimacy......Hector Camacho beat Ray Mancini to become the 1st WBO Junior Welterweight Champion only 1 year after the WBO was formed. John David Jackson became the WBO Junior Middleweight Champion the same year the WBO was formed. Nigel Benn became the 1st WBO Middleweight Champion 1 year after the WBO was formed. Thomas Hearns was the 1st WBO Super Middleweight Champion the same year the WBO was formed. Michael Moorer became the 1st WBO Light Heavyweight Champion the same year the WBO was formed.

I just cant listen to some dude tell me that the WBO wasnt "legit" until the late 90s when elite fighters held the belt in the fukking 80's



Learn more about boxing before responding to me.

Please stop replying to me

The WBO didn't become legit till the 90's its a fact, because the US recognized doesn't mean everybody did

I put the IBF above the WBO because it's been around longer and has had better champions

WHY CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT

and just because the IBF and WBO are legit does not mean they coveted like the WBA and WBC

WHAT IS IT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND

 

[blackestofpanthers]

Dawson is out here catching fades after Ward done took his soul and Superman done crushed the remaining particles.

While Cotto losing to Trout after giving Floyd a good fight and being on a lil win streak after the Manny lost.

Dawson was damaged goods, you can't even compare the 2 time periods in their careers. I mean Cotto at least beat Yuri Foreman after his loss. Dawson's 3rd fight back is to a average ass bum and he getting rocked and losing hometown decisions. He couldn't beat a FNF level guy. I mean c'mon. Foreman is at least ShoBox and ppv undercard status.


but I digress. Try and drop knowledge in a Floyd/Manny thread brehs.

After what loss did cotto beat yuri? We are talking about the trout loss and he fought yuri before that so what exactly are you saying?
After trout beat cotto he lost to canelo and lara while being dropped in both fights, i guess i could argue he was damaged too which led to him being dropped by fnf fighters later
I have no idea why you just won't admit that your logic was highly flawed when we both know it was.

No idea why you're trying to save face and bring up a bunch of other things. You initially said cotto would never hang with guys from tito's era because he lost to trout who got dropped by fnf fights guys. That's terrible reasoning and you know it.