Floyd Mayweather Jr-Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

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Next time someone brings up Floyd holding up the negotiations at this point, Im just gonna repost this twitter post in my response:yeshrug:


HBO is holding up this fight and by proximity, Top Rank and Manny Pacquiao since Top Rank works with them and promotes Manny Pacquiao:ufdup:
 

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I was reading that Floyd is still talking about Mannys numbers... And from the article I posted, is Floyd asking for a 80-20 split?

No, Manny was saying that it's an 80% chance it will happen and a 20% chance it doesnt.

"I think it will happen, I believe that," he told Ringside. "If this doesn't happen now I don't think it will, so now is the time. If you ask me what the percentage is, it's 80-20 [that it will happen].


It's cool for him to "say" he will take 60/40 split, but that's not what the issue is at this point (money/PPV splits were already agreed to on both sides. Money is not a sticking point anymore thankfully). It's rebroadcasting the fight the following week....and HBO wants BOTH networks to be able to do so and Showtime is like :ufdup: the WINNER of the fight will rebroadcast the fight just like we agreed to last time. HBO doesnt want to agree to that at this point of time:snoop:
 

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Next time someone brings up Floyd holding up the negotiations at this point, Im just gonna repost this twitter post in my response:yeshrug:


HBO is holding up this fight and by proximity, Top Rank and Manny Pacquiao since Top Rank works with them and promotes Manny Pacquiao:ufdup:

Today or tomorrow :lupe:
 

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I have no doubt Manny would fight Floyd and no doubt, for the right numbers, Floyd would fight Pacquiao. The problem is Pacquiao has no say-so in negotiations at this point, because if he did...he'd be able to tell HBO to sit their ass down somewhere and take the same deal they made Showtime take for Lewis vs Tyson especially being that Manny has no exclusive contract with them in the 1st place.

Doesnt matter if TR has a couple deals in place for a few of their fighters. Manny doesnt have a deal at all with HBO to be shown exclusively on their network, so there really is no reason for HBO to holding up the negotiations trying to force the rebroadcast rights issue.
:stopitslime: HOW??
You dont know what the stipulations are on the contract when he re-signed..

You dont know what the terms are that HBO is disputing
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:stopitslime: HOW??
You dont know what the stipulations are on the contract when he re-signed..

You dont know what the terms are that HBO is disputing
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I think I would prefer to use Dan Rafael sources than you questioning anything with nothing but you're stanning as your "source":camby:



Right off the bat, I'm told that HBO is reluctant to handle the delay the same way as in the 2002 deal, preferring instead to have any delay air simultaneously on both networks. Perhaps HBO was OK with the 2002 arrangement because Lewis was such a huge favorite over Tyson and it was worth the risk. In a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, Mayweather will be the favorite.

So whether Mayweather and Pacquiao themselves can come to terms -- and Pacquiao's side claims he has agreed to terms negotiated by Top Rank promoter Bob Arum with CBS boss Leslie Moonves, who has been serving as the go-between with Mayweather's camp, while Mayweather has not yet -- the network deal is just as important as any agreement the boxers can come to.

In order for there to be a fight of this magnitude on May 2, any deal would almost certainly have to be wrapped up no later than early February and the clock is ticking.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/11667/showtime-hbo-talk-mayweather-pacquiao



Like I said.....HBO is holding up the fight and by proximity TR and Manny Pacquiao:ufdup:



Floyd is not at fault at all:ufdup:


 

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I think I would prefer to use Dan Rafael sources than you questioning anything with nothing but you're stanning as your "source":camby:







Like I said.....HBO is holding up the fight and by proximity TR and Manny Pacquiao:ufdup:



Floyd is not at fault at all:ufdup:



He just blames Floyd blindly... It's just silly as hell at this point. No one that matters blame Floyd, just Bob and Black_Jesus :mjlol:
 

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as much as I thought it was a good idea to move all Floyd/Manny related stuff into 1 thread...with all the other developments going on in the boxing world why ppl want to talk about this shyt, rehashing stuff, day in day out :smh:
 

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And @Black_Jesus I have researched and found out that Manny DOES currently have an exclusive contract with HBO/Time Warner Sports now, so yes, his side is definitely the one at fault at this point.

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This explains why you have heard from all the major players except for the heads at HBO. Think about it, Pac, Arum, Roach, Floyd, Floyd Sr., Moonves, Ariza and Espinoza have all spoken but nobody from HBO....unless I missed it? This also explains why Arum insists on blaming Floyd because he doesnt want to throw shade at HBO, since its the major hand that broadcasts Manny.
 

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Why Pacquiao vs. Mayweather on May 2nd is a done deal
January 26th, 2015

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By Sizzle JKD: Here’s the thing, the long awaited Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather Jr. “super fight” is going to be announced sometime at the end of next week, most likely January 30th or the 31st. Yes, this is a hunch. But my gut feeling for well over a month has had me leaning favorably in this direction.

On January 19th, I wrote that all signs were pointing toward a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight because both camps not only acknowledged that talks were becoming serious, but people such as Showtime V.P. Stephen Espinoza, Haymon right hand man Sam Watson, and Pacquiao adviser Michael Koncz all re-iterated that things were in process and moving along positively in the right direction.


In other words, there was progress being made. What made these revelations believable was that both camps seemingly had a strategic position. Team Floyd decided it was their best interests to remain silent about any talks relating to the contract negotiations, while Team Pacquiao made it clear that representatives who were authorized to negotiate on behalf of Mayweather had sent Top Rank “terms and conditions” for the fight which Pacquiao agreed to.

On January 22nd, I wrote that Mayweather would sign the final contract “next week,” which would be sometime between January 26th-February 1st, after Bob Arum said “everything is agreed to” and that Arum was “very positive” the fight would materialize. Furthermore, boxing legend Sugar Ray Leonard said that he had “very reliable sources” that the fight would happen.

After digging deeper into the “sources” online, in print, and at home, I came to the conclusion that the main reason Pacquiao and Mayweather visited England and Australia, respectively, was to get a head start at promoting their fight around the world. In essence, conduct a not-so-impromptu world tour of sorts sans the media following that normally covers a promotional tour and adjoining press conferences.

To think that there is still plenty of time to promote the May 2nd fight is shortsighted. The fighters and their promoters only have about one month to promote the fight because beginning in March, both boxers must start training. Training normally lasts 8-10 weeks and commencing training in March will take the fighters all the way up to May. Once the boxers begin training, there are no more tours and press conferences that take place.

Looking back, it’s apparent that the fight was a done deal the moment both camps began serious talks in the beginning of the month.

Both camps marketed it perfectly, while keeping everyone guessing at the same time so as not to destroy the integrity of the negotiations. The resulting media hype, press coverage, and fan fervor has caused quite a stir and has returned everyone back to the uproar of 2009. We are all back on board.

Then there’s the supposed “deadline” to sign imposed by Team Pacquiao. When you read between the lines, it’s not really a deadline. It’s simply Pacquiao hinting when the announcement would be made.

Think about it. Floyd is the A-Side, Pac is the B-Side. Floyd calls all the shots. Do you actually think Team Pacquiao would jeopardize all negotiations by attempting to seize control of the negotiations by forcing a deadline upon Team Mayweather? That would be a stupid business move on Arum’s part. We know Arum and Al Hayon have been very cordial and understanding throughout these negotiations and I’m almost 100% positive the “deadline” was nothing but a marketing ploy.

Team Pacquiao hasn’t revealed any details of the “terms and conditions” and the best way Manny can tell his fans that the fight is happening is by saying there would be a time frame in which when to expect an announcement, whether positive or negative. It’s up to us to read between the lines.

This weekend, additional details came to light that adds to the presumption that this fight will take place in May. When HBO and CBS/Showtime began talks in New York City on January 16, it marked the first step in truly making this mega fight a reality. Fast forward one week later and Espinoza said they are “halfway done.” If the two network giants have reached the halfway point in their talks, then it must mean that the target date to complete the final contract would be right around January 30th-February 1st right? You decide.

And here’s the final nail to the coffin. During the last two weeks of December and the first couple weeks of January, Floyd was spotted numerous times at L.A. Lakers and L.A. Clippers game. Never before has Floyd attended this many sporting events in Southern California in such a short time frame. How is this relevant?

Al Haymon spends a lot of time in the Los Angeles/Beverly Hills area because he has an office there. During the last month, Haymon has been traveling back and forth between New York and L.A. to hammer out TV deals with NBC and Spike TV in order to bring boxing back to free network television. On January 22nd, a new conference was held at the Spike TV offices in Santa Monica, California to unveil Haymon’s new boxing series “Premier Boxing Champions,” which will premier March 13. No boxing media was invited to this press conference, similar to what was done for his NBC deal in New York.

You can bet your bottom dollar that at least several times Floyd met with Haymon “behind the scenes” during the many times Haymon and Floyd were in the Los Angeles area conducting their business. The meetings had one sole purpose – to draw up the “terms and conditions” they would eventually forward to Bob Arum and Team Pacquiao.

So you be the judge. Will Mayweather fight Cotto, like Jim Lampley says? Or did Mayweather already set out to finally satisfy the boxing world and finally agree to get it on with his arch rival?

My money says the latter. The announcement is coming. Mark your calendar. What will you be doing January 30th or 31st?

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/01/why-pacquiao-vs-mayweather-on-may-2nd-is-a-done-deal/

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I think I would prefer to use Dan Rafael sources than you questioning anything with nothing but you're stanning as your "source":camby:







Like I said.....HBO is holding up the fight and by proximity TR and Manny Pacquiao:ufdup:



Floyd is not at fault at all:ufdup:



Dan Rafael's sources also told us that Mayweather/Cotto 2 was in the works.. What was that you were saying about "in good faith"
 

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Dan Rafael's sources also told us that Mayweather/Cotto 2 was in the works.. What was that you were saying about "in good faith"


Really? Because Dan Rafael posted quotes DIRECTLY from Cotto's advisor Gaby Penagaricano saying there is no Mayweather/Cotto 2 in the works:mjpls:


He posted it on January 17th...9 days ago.


Penagaricano said there is no deal in the works for a Cotto rematch with Mayweather, although he acknowledged that in recent months Mayweather adviser Al Haymon had reached out to him to gauge interest.

"Al and I speak all the time. We have fighters together and other business together, but we haven't talked about that fight [since the initial conversation a few months ago]," Penagaricano said. "Of course, a rematch would be big, but it's not in the pipeline. I don't know what's going to happen."

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/i...owdown-miguel-cotto-canelo-alvarez-break-down


Soooooooooo, what where you saying again?:sas1:


Or better yet....what was I saying again?:sas2:


I think I would prefer to use Dan Rafael sources than you questioning anything with nothing but your stanning as your "source":camby:



Right off the bat, I'm told that HBO is reluctant to handle the delay the same way as in the 2002 deal, preferring instead to have any delay air simultaneously on both networks. Perhaps HBO was OK with the 2002 arrangement because Lewis was such a huge favorite over Tyson and it was worth the risk. In a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, Mayweather will be the favorite.

So whether Mayweather and Pacquiao themselves can come to terms -- and Pacquiao's side claims he has agreed to terms negotiated by Top Rank promoter Bob Arum with CBS boss Leslie Moonves, who has been serving as the go-between with Mayweather's camp, while Mayweather has not yet -- the network deal is just as important as any agreement the boxers can come to.

In order for there to be a fight of this magnitude on May 2, any deal would almost certainly have to be wrapped up no later than early February and the clock is ticking.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/11667/showtime-hbo-talk-mayweather-pacquiao



Like I said.....HBO is holding up the fight and by proximity TR and Manny Pacquiao:ufdup:



Floyd is not at fault at all:ufdup:


 
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