Floyd Mayweather Jr-Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread
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Black_Jesus
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He wont even get a KD
krackdagawd
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I've always thought Floyd beats Manny easily but I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that the longer Floyd takes before fighting him the more I like Manny's chances, you would think it would be the opposite since Pacman has been in so many wars. I still think Floyd beats him but it will be a 7-5 type of fight if they were to fight right now imo.
Considering the Canelo + Maidana fights were clear wins but were officially scored both MD's, i think floyd is probably worried about being robbed especially with Arum involved . . .
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I've always said 7-5 either way.
One thing I DONT like about what Floyd is doing, is that he's fighting slow plodders over and over and over again.....and Manny is a burst of fire in the ring.
Yes, Im on record as saying Floyd easily takes Pacquiao as well, but he's conditioning himself to fight against only 1 speed. What happens when he finally faces a fast hand/foot speed boxer with power in both hands, who just so happens to also be a lefty, for the 1st time since 2006?
Maidana caught Floyd cleanly in both fights (especially the 1st fight, but the biggest clean shot was landed in the rematch) and he has slower hands. No doubt Pacquiao catches Floyd with some heat, but will Floyd be able to take it or roll with the punch, since his eyes are used to seeing only 1 speed for basically the last 9 years now?
I still think Floyd beats him, but I feel like you. The fight may be closer than it would've been if they had fought in 2008
Black_Jesus
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And this is also why I believe Khan gives Floyd problems(and Floyd knows it). But nikkas always get so outraged like im saying this because I must just hate Floyd.. Nope.. I think someone close to floyds speed who have an ounce of power would give Floyd huge problems.. And not just now in 2014-2015... Khans only real problem has been his chin and his defense.. Since he changed trainers his def has improved a bit. Now the only real problem he has is his chin.. We already know going for a KO is never in Floyds gameplan do to brittle hands.. Just saying
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One thing I DONT like about what Floyd is doing, is that he's fighting slow plodders over and over and over again.....and Manny is a burst of fire in the ring.
Yes, Im on record as saying Floyd easily takes Pacquiao as well, but he's conditioning himself to fight against only 1 speed. What happens when he finally faces a fast hand/foot speed boxer with power in both hands, who just so happens to also be a lefty, for the 1st time since 2006?
Maidana caught Floyd cleanly in both fights (especially the 1st fight, but the biggest clean shot was landed in the rematch) and he has slower hands. No doubt Pacquiao catches Floyd with some heat, but will Floyd be able to take it or roll with the punch, since his eyes are used to seeing only 1 speed for basically the last 9 years now?
I still think Floyd beats him, but I feel like you. The fight may be closer than it would've been if they had fought in 2008
Ghost and Ortiz were the last southpaws Floyd fought and they had decent hand speed and footwork, let's face it, no one has Manny's speed (hand and foot), but Floyd beat those guys to the punch easily. Now, There's no one out there that Floyd could've fought that has Manny's "burst of fire", also Manny Manny still hasn't fought anyone of Floyd's strengths except the accurate counter puncher in JMM...and we saw the result of that. Question is, how will Manny defend Floyd once Floyd absorbs his punches? Manny's defense sans head movement is and has always been iffy. I just don't see a small dude like Manny beating Floyd, but.....that's not saying that Manny can't win and I also wouldn't be surprised if he did because Manny is the best fighter besides Floyd, Rigo and SOG.
seemorecizzy
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if this fight happened in 2010, it woulda been a one sided ass whopping and no one care bout pacquaio anymore on that levelOne thing I DONT like about what Floyd is doing, is that he's fighting slow plodders over and over and over again.....and Manny is a burst of fire in the ring.
Yes, Im on record as saying Floyd easily takes Pacquiao as well, but he's conditioning himself to fight against only 1 speed. What happens when he finally faces a fast hand/foot speed boxer with power in both hands, who just so happens to also be a lefty, for the 1st time since 2006?
Maidana caught Floyd cleanly in both fights (especially the 1st fight, but the biggest clean shot was landed in the rematch) and he has slower hands. No doubt Pacquiao catches Floyd with some heat, but will Floyd be able to take it or roll with the punch, since his eyes are used to seeing only 1 speed for basically the last 9 years now?
I still think Floyd beats him, but I feel like you. The fight may be closer than it would've been if they had fought in 2008
in 2015, i still think floyd whoops his ass but probably not as easily
unless pacquaio gets back on roids or something, i have NO faith in punching power anymore
he cant knock anyone out and floyd got a solid chin
i'm not even sure he can hurt floyd
pacquaio just leaves himself too open for a fighter like floyd...even seen algeri catch him with some counters the other day
i see him countering him to death and confusing the fukk outta pacquaio cause pacquaio cant really adapt
you have a point about speed, but on the same token, floyd is used to fighting guys bigger, stronger, and heavier than pacquaio. One he times his speed, not sure theres anything pacquaio can do about it
seemorecizzy
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id be legit shocked if pacquaio beat floyd
but i guess anything can happen in boxing
to beat floyd, i think someone would have to outbox him and atleast have a solid jab
just hope it happens in may so we find out once and for all
seemorecizzy
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if this fight gets made your the first one complaining thoughAnd this is also why I believe Khan gives Floyd problems(and Floyd knows it). But nikkas always get so outraged like im saying this because I must just hate Floyd.. Nope.. I think someone close to floyds speed who have an ounce of power would give Floyd huge problems.. And not just now in 2014-2015... Khans only real problem has been his chin and his defense.. Since he changed trainers his def has improved a bit. Now the only real problem he has is his chin.. We already know going for a KO is never in Floyds gameplan do to brittle hands.. Just saying
and khan was being set up to fight floyd like 4 times
messed up each time
Black_Jesus
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I want this fight to happen actually.. why would I compain?if this fight gets made your the first one complaining though
and khan was being set up to fight floyd like 4 times
messed up each time
Black_Jesus
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Arum, CBS CEO Set Meeting on Mayweather-Pacquiao
Posted by: Ronnie Nathanielsz on 11/24/2014
By Ronnie Nathanielsz
Top Rank promoter Bob Arum plans to meet with CBS/Showtime president Leslie Moonves on Tuesday to continue talks about a possible showdown before June of next year between “Fighter of the Decade” Manny Pacquiao and undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr.
In a telephone conversation with BoxingScene.com/Manila Standard/Viva Sports hours before he was scheduled to return to the United States from Macau, Arum said he “hopes to make the Mayweather fight” and is ready “to give him ( Mayweather) a little time” to respond .
In pushing in earnest for the mega-buck fight which boxing fans and the media have clamored for over the past four years, Arum said “If boxing is to be considered a major sport, the fight has to happen," even as he added , "It would seem to me to be counterproductive for someone like Les Moonves to be wasting his time if it was all [nonsense]."
Arum emphasized, "All the nonsense has to cease, everyone should be working together to make that fight happen. There's no excuses anymore, none. Every place we go, they ask us when that fight is going to happen. Enough is enough, let's just make the fight happen, let's get it done and make it the next fight for each fighter, sometime in the first six months of next year."
Pacquiao himself took the offensive in challenging Mayweather to get into the ring with him, obviously buoyed with his domination of the previously undefeated WBO junior welterweight champion Chris Algieri whom he knocked down no less than six times which Arum pointed out was twice as many knockdowns as Floyd has scored over the past twelve years.
To Arum, his prized possession “was great against Algieri. He was quick, he was powerful. He was the old Manny” who smashed opponents like Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky “The Hitman” Hatton, Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito in an amazing run in which we won eight world titles in different weight divisions.
Pacquiao joined his promoter in calling on Mayweather to accept the challenge when he told a post-fight news conference “It's time to see that happen, people can prepare for it early next year."
Respected boxing writer Lance Pugmire of the Los Angeles Times said Pacquiao also told the Times “ he's willing to bend to a specific purse-split percentage favoring Mayweather that sources close to Mayweather told The Times was required for the deal to get done.’
One of the hosts on the popular Ringside boxing show on SEN Radio in Melbourne, Australia, informed us that the split would be $100 million for Mayweather and $60 million for Pacquiao while The LA Times reported that a Showtime spokesman said last week that Mayweather and the network want the fight.
Said Arum: "All the nonsense has to cease, everyone should be working together to make that fight happen. There's no excuses anymore, none. Every place we go, they ask us when that fight is going to happen. Enough is enough, let's just make the fight happen, let's get it done and make it the next fight for each fighter, sometime in the first six months of next year."
In fact celebrated trainer Freddie Roach has started reviewing some of Mayweather’s more recent fights - "I like challenges. It's not an easy fight by any means, but I love Manny in that fight, and look forward to getting Manny ready for that fight. I know Floyd's the best opponent we've ever faced."
Pacquiao’s longtime adviser Michael Koncz told BoxingScene/Standard that “there’s no rush” to get to the nitty-gritty of a Mayweather fight and that they would discuss a possible fight in earnest after the Christmas season.
He said Manny is "feeling great” even as the entourage was scheduled to return to General Santos City at 1:00 p.m. yesterday. Koncz said that while they didn’t get the knockout they hoped for he “saw some good things and one of them was that Manny was more motivated. I’m happy about it.”
Pacquiao’s first trainer Rick Stahaley who trained him when Manny won his first world title – the WBC flyweight championship scoring an 8th round knockout over Thai hero Chatchai Sasakul on December 3, 1998 said “when Manny caught Algieri early in the first round with a left, Algieri realized Manny was at another level.”
Respected international referee Bruce McTavish said that “while Algieri was not in Pacquiao’s class, I wasn’t super impressed.” At the same time he believes referee Genaro “Gino” Hernandez should have stopped the fight when Manny nailed Algieri in the ninth round and “he had a hard time getting up. Why allow him to take more punishment when he was not going to win the fight.”
http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-cbs-ceo-set-meeting-on-mayweather-pacquiao--84624
Pacquiao willing to bend and except the split and it will be 100 million for Floyd and 60 million for Pacquiao?
That's a 63/37 split in favor of Floyd Mayweather....which seems fair considering their last few PPV fights, like I thought
I wonder if that split is including the upside as well?
Posted by: Ronnie Nathanielsz on 11/24/2014
By Ronnie Nathanielsz
Top Rank promoter Bob Arum plans to meet with CBS/Showtime president Leslie Moonves on Tuesday to continue talks about a possible showdown before June of next year between “Fighter of the Decade” Manny Pacquiao and undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr.
In a telephone conversation with BoxingScene.com/Manila Standard/Viva Sports hours before he was scheduled to return to the United States from Macau, Arum said he “hopes to make the Mayweather fight” and is ready “to give him ( Mayweather) a little time” to respond .
In pushing in earnest for the mega-buck fight which boxing fans and the media have clamored for over the past four years, Arum said “If boxing is to be considered a major sport, the fight has to happen," even as he added , "It would seem to me to be counterproductive for someone like Les Moonves to be wasting his time if it was all [nonsense]."
Arum emphasized, "All the nonsense has to cease, everyone should be working together to make that fight happen. There's no excuses anymore, none. Every place we go, they ask us when that fight is going to happen. Enough is enough, let's just make the fight happen, let's get it done and make it the next fight for each fighter, sometime in the first six months of next year."
Pacquiao himself took the offensive in challenging Mayweather to get into the ring with him, obviously buoyed with his domination of the previously undefeated WBO junior welterweight champion Chris Algieri whom he knocked down no less than six times which Arum pointed out was twice as many knockdowns as Floyd has scored over the past twelve years.
To Arum, his prized possession “was great against Algieri. He was quick, he was powerful. He was the old Manny” who smashed opponents like Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky “The Hitman” Hatton, Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito in an amazing run in which we won eight world titles in different weight divisions.
Pacquiao joined his promoter in calling on Mayweather to accept the challenge when he told a post-fight news conference “It's time to see that happen, people can prepare for it early next year."
Respected boxing writer Lance Pugmire of the Los Angeles Times said Pacquiao also told the Times “ he's willing to bend to a specific purse-split percentage favoring Mayweather that sources close to Mayweather told The Times was required for the deal to get done.’
One of the hosts on the popular Ringside boxing show on SEN Radio in Melbourne, Australia, informed us that the split would be $100 million for Mayweather and $60 million for Pacquiao while The LA Times reported that a Showtime spokesman said last week that Mayweather and the network want the fight.
Said Arum: "All the nonsense has to cease, everyone should be working together to make that fight happen. There's no excuses anymore, none. Every place we go, they ask us when that fight is going to happen. Enough is enough, let's just make the fight happen, let's get it done and make it the next fight for each fighter, sometime in the first six months of next year."
In fact celebrated trainer Freddie Roach has started reviewing some of Mayweather’s more recent fights - "I like challenges. It's not an easy fight by any means, but I love Manny in that fight, and look forward to getting Manny ready for that fight. I know Floyd's the best opponent we've ever faced."
Pacquiao’s longtime adviser Michael Koncz told BoxingScene/Standard that “there’s no rush” to get to the nitty-gritty of a Mayweather fight and that they would discuss a possible fight in earnest after the Christmas season.
He said Manny is "feeling great” even as the entourage was scheduled to return to General Santos City at 1:00 p.m. yesterday. Koncz said that while they didn’t get the knockout they hoped for he “saw some good things and one of them was that Manny was more motivated. I’m happy about it.”
Pacquiao’s first trainer Rick Stahaley who trained him when Manny won his first world title – the WBC flyweight championship scoring an 8th round knockout over Thai hero Chatchai Sasakul on December 3, 1998 said “when Manny caught Algieri early in the first round with a left, Algieri realized Manny was at another level.”
Respected international referee Bruce McTavish said that “while Algieri was not in Pacquiao’s class, I wasn’t super impressed.” At the same time he believes referee Genaro “Gino” Hernandez should have stopped the fight when Manny nailed Algieri in the ninth round and “he had a hard time getting up. Why allow him to take more punishment when he was not going to win the fight.”
http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-cbs-ceo-set-meeting-on-mayweather-pacquiao--84624
Pacquiao willing to bend and except the split and it will be 100 million for Floyd and 60 million for Pacquiao?
That's a 63/37 split in favor of Floyd Mayweather....which seems fair considering their last few PPV fights, like I thought
I wonder if that split is including the upside as well?
seemorecizzy
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and when the fight is officially made, pacquaio stans are gonna go from
Here's the plea coppin Floydie stans are gonna run with yall.. Just a heads up..
"hes scared, hes a chicken"
to
"um um pacquaio aint the same fighter no more, only reason floyd took the fight, floyd will win"
i dare dis guy to ask floyd for a catchweight