Florida is stopping a PARENT-LESS 16 YEAR OLD from getting an abortion because "she's not mature enough"...but she is to have a kid?! #BothSides

[Champ_KW]

The Bible is irrelevant to the discussion, but since you referred to it, I brought up the ordeal of bitter water, which is a Biblical instruction on what do do of a husband suspects his wife of cheating. I also brought up the fact that people alive duri g the Bible's alleged timeline had abortions.

Another paragraph without a specific name. Just a bunch of things that allude to something. And you're being disingenuous with your argument. Cause even if you try to morph some text into a "mention" of abortion, you won't find anywhere where it is celebrated or treated like another step along the child bearing process like it's being treated in here. Quit trying to shoe horn a medical procedure into the discussion about the natural order of life.

 

[Swagnificent]

Setting a bone and naking a cast are not "natural". Without intervention, you would die, as virtually all other animal species do when they have a broken leg.

False.
What happens to wild animals with broken bones? - PubMed

Fractured bones are common in the animal kingdom and heal naturally.

 

[LadyJ2]

For a forum that talks about "people who fall through the cracks" its amazing you all don't see how stuff like this is "more than rare"

Legally, someone is her guardian. What did she put down on her waiver?

The cracks gotta be sealed when you are in court.

I don’t care how rare it is, she has a guardian unless a judge previously emancipated her.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Legally, someone is her guardian. What did she put down on her waiver?

The cracks gotta be sealed when you are in court.

I don’t care how rare it is, she has a guardian unless a judge previously emancipated her.

OK. Go look and let us know.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

False.
What happens to wild animals with broken bones? - PubMed

Fractured bones are common in the animal kingdom and heal naturally.

"Contemporary observations on primates in the wild over long periods show that fractures of long bones in adult wild primates are rare and usually fatal"

 

[LadyJ2]

OK. Go look and let us know.

I don’t care

I read the full order, she can’t prove she doesn’t have a guardian and is living on her own. That is the criteria to get the waiver.

Without the waiver, she can’t get the abortion legally.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Another paragraph without a specific name. Just a bunch of things that allude to something. And you're being disingenuous with your argument. Cause even if you try to morph some text into a "mention" of abortion, you won't find anywhere where it is celebrated or treated like another step along the child bearing process like it's being treated in here. Quit trying to shoe horn a medical procedure into the discussion about the natural order of life.

This is pathetic. Keep moving the goalposts.

 

[Kokoro]

I'm wondering the same thing. People are actually getting in their feelings cause I suggested asserting sexual discipline which would protect a 16 year old, not only from physical issues, but also emotional and spiritual issues. But people just wanna keep their license to have frivolous sex, damn the age or consequences.

How would you define sexual discipline? Abstinence?

Also she doesn’t have parents. You could probably legally adopt her and her child, you should step up

 

[Swagnificent]

how do you know it was unprotected sex? or consensual? or even, legal? She's 16.

If the word unprotected bothers you then I will stop saying it. Let's just say she had sex and one of the consequences of sexual activity even with protection is pregnancy. How do I know it was consensual or legal? How do you know it wasn't? Nothing in this story suggests she was raped or was with someone over the age of 18. Why are you assuming facts not explicitly stated?

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Actually no. All the doctor does when you have a broken leg is put the bone back in place then place a cast on your leg so you can't move the bone out of place. Then nature takes it course and repairs the bone. Modern science does not fix broken bones. Only your own cells can.

Now do heart transplants.

Also where do artificial hips fit into your argument?

 

[Swagnificent]

That's a shyt analogy. The state doesn't own this girl's body.

So because you can't respond to it, it's a shyt analogy?

There are consequences for our actions. You can't try to avoid the natural consequences of engaging in sex by blaming others. She's the one who decided to have sex. For almost all of human history all females her age understood the consequences that came with that action.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

So because you can't respond to it, it's a shyt analogy?

There are consequences for our actions. You can't try to avoid the natural consequences of engaging in sex by blaming others. She's the one who decided to have sex. For almost all of human history all females her age understood the consequences that came with that action.

Pregnancy is the result, yes. Pregnancy can be avoided, or stopped midway, as can drunk driving.

People throughout history had both unwanted pregnancies and abortions.

 

[Swagnificent]

"Contemporary observations on primates in the wild over long periods show that fractures of long bones in adult wild primates are rare and usually fatal"

You said animals not just adult primates. That same sentence you cut off said it usually healed for juveniles. With that said, here's another article showing long bone fractures healing in other wild animals.

PREVALENCE OF HEALED LONG-BONE FRACTURES IN WILD CARNIVORES FROM THE NORTHEASTERN UNITED STATES - PubMed

"Museum specimens representing 12 species of terrestrial carnivores from the northeastern United States were inspected for evidence of healed long-bone fractures. Of 413 individuals, 18 (4.4%) exhibited healed fractures. Thirteen (72.2%) occurred in hind limbs; five (27.8%) occurred in forelimbs."

 

[Swagnificent]

Pregnancy is the result, yes. Pregnancy can be avoided, or stopped midway, as can drunk driving.

People throughout history had both unwanted pregnancies and abortions.

Why not just say don't have sex? Why is that so hard for you to admit?

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

You said animals not just adult primates. That same sentence you cut off said it usually healed for juveniles. With that said, here's another article showing long bone fractures healing in other wild animals.

PREVALENCE OF HEALED LONG-BONE FRACTURES IN WILD CARNIVORES FROM THE NORTHEASTERN UNITED STATES - PubMed

"Museum specimens representing 12 species of terrestrial carnivores from the northeastern United States were inspected for evidence of healed long-bone fractures. Of 413 individuals, 18 (4.4%) exhibited healed fractures. Thirteen (72.2%) occurred in hind limbs; five (27.8%) occurred in forelimbs."

The overwhelming majority of fracture victims died, which is exactly what I said in my 1st comment. Young ones are more likely to survive because they are protected by adults, and young bodies heal better than older ones. Adults generally die.

4% is not a high number by any means.

Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself.