Florida Gov. DeSantis will run for President in 2028

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And he will lose.

He is a loser

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yeah, he'd lose against obama or bill clinton :dead: but thats not the matchup

in all likelihood, he's gonna be facing a decrepit joe biden, or kamala. he'll crush both easily

see heres the thing; its not even about desantis. fukk desantis. its about the fact that biden got MILLIONS of votes from usual republicans/moderates, who are dying for an "acceptable" republican to vote for in 24, as long as its not trump. corporate america is dying for a trump they can openly support

ANY generic, non-trump republican picks up those votes automatically. that's the dems' major problem
 

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:dead: its killing trump to be a no-attention getting loser

i still say he doesnt go through with it, though. he'll go on Hannity and get jerked off, and hold his little klan rallies in alabama, but trump is far too much of a p*ssy to leave his right wing safe spaces where he can pretend that he won

he'll NEVER have the guts to stand up in front of campaign scrutiny and debates, and have to face getting mocked that he lost in 2020
 

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yeah, he'd lose against obama or bill clinton :dead: but thats not the matchup

in all likelihood, he's gonna be facing a decrepit joe biden, or kamala. he'll crush both easily

see heres the thing; its not even about desantis. fukk desantis. its about the fact that biden got MILLIONS of votes from usual republicans/moderates, who are dying for an "acceptable" republican to vote for in 24, as long as its not trump. corporate america is dying for a trump they can openly support

ANY generic, non-trump republican picks up those votes automatically. that's the dems' major problem

I'm not so sure Biden actually got a lot of votes from Republicans/moderates :patrice: I mean Trump got more votes than any other Republican has, so I have to assume he got almost all normal GOP voters



I think the reason Trump lost has less to do with Biden getting moderates and more to do with him getting high turnout from people that don't necessarily vote all the time. But I agree that Biden could easily lose against DeSantis, I just think it would be more due to depressed Dem turnout than not getting moderates. Without Trump on the ballot Dems might not show up.
 

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I'm not so sure Biden actually got a lot of votes from Republicans/moderates :patrice: I mean Trump got more votes than any other Republican has, so I have to assume he got almost all normal GOP voters



I think the reason Trump lost has less to do with Biden getting moderates and more to do with him getting high turnout from people that don't necessarily vote all the time. But I agree that Biden could easily lose against DeSantis, I just think it would be more due to depressed Dem turnout than not getting moderates. Without Trump on the ballot Dems might not show up.
hopefully youre right :yeshrug:

look at that ron johnson tape from the other day, tho. 51,000 WI republicans didnt vote for trump, and biden won by 20,000. i dont like that dynamic in 24 :huhldup:
 

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the thing is, if trump makes it official, then none of them are even gonna run. desantis, cruz, little marco, haley, theyll all just grovel at trump's feet and save their money til 2028

i heard chris christie say trump has to win in 2024 like anyone else. he might have the balls to put up a challenge. but i cant think of a single other republican who wont just flop on the floor :dead:
 

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so much winning, how are the dems going to stop this political monster on a national scale :wow:

Florida judge allows school mask mandates to continue despite governor's appeal - CNN

(CNN)A Florida judge ruled against Gov. Ron Desantis on Wednesday and allowed schools in the state to mandate face-masks while the case is appealed at a higher level.

The ruling from Second Circuit Judge John Cooper, effective immediately, means the state of Florida must stop enforcement of banning mask mandates -- which ends sanctions against several school districts who have implemented such mandates.

The decision comes amid heated showdowns between the state and some local school districts, which have insisted on requiring students to wear masks amid a surge of Covid-19 infections. In late July, DeSantis, a Republican, issued an executive order that directed the Florida Department of Education and the Florida Department of Health to issue emergency rules giving parents a choice on whether their children should wear masks in class. The state threatened to withhold funding from districts that violated the order and that required masks for everyone.

Even so, 13 Florida school districts have now implemented a mask mandate without a parent opt out in defiance of the governor's position.
Judge Cooper ruled against DeSantis' order two weeks ago, saying the governor overreached and did not have the authority to ban school districts from implementing mask mandates without a parent opt out.

DeSantis appealed that ruling, which led to an immediate pause on school mask mandates while a ruling was made. That pause has now been lifted. In Wednesday's ruling, Judge Cooper said there was not enough irreparable harm to set aside the automatic stay triggered by the appeal.

"It's undisputed that in Florida we are in the midst of a Covid pandemic. Based on the evidence I've heard, there's no harm to the state if the stay is set aside," Cooper said. Cooper added that based on expert witnesses it is clear the only way to protect children who are unable to be vaccinated is to keep children isolated at home, which would cause additional harm.
"It's undisputed that the Delta variant is far more infectious than the prior version of the virus, and that children are more susceptible to the Delta variant than to the form from a year ago," Cooper said.

"In particular for children under 12, they cannot be vaccinated. Therefore, there's really only one or two means to protect them against the virus ... either stay at home, or mask."
Cooper added that based on the evidence young students "arguably have no way to avoid this, except to stay home and isolate themselves."

"I think everybody agrees, that's not good for them," Cooper said. The case will now go to the First District Court of Appeal. "They'll thoroughly consider the arguments of all parties, and they'll make a decision, then it may or may not end up at the Florida Supreme Court," Cooper said.
Prior to Cooper's ruling, Gov. DeSantis said he was "very confident" he will ultimately win the court battle over his statewide ban on mask mandates.

"What we have found is, you know, in the trial courts in Tallahassee, state and federal, we typically lose if there is a political component to it. But then in the appeals court, we almost always win," DeSantis said when asked about Wednesday's hearing. "And so I don't think (the judge) is going to lift the stay ... but if it is lifted I am confident that that will be reinstated at the 11th Circuit."

DeSantis spoke from Palm Coast at an event promoting monoclonal antibody treatments as a method of preventing severe illness and death resulting from a Covid-19 infection.

CNN's Eric Levenson contributed to this report.
 
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