florida elementary school pulls all black students from class and chastises them for test scores

[Dreamchaser]

Standardized testing is a horrible way of testing aptitude, as someone who tested poorly in grade school its a poor indicator of understanding principle and applications. We need to move away from testing. But, I do see the structural issues with education in the black community that needs to be addressed. I blame the culture on pushing athletes and entertainment over doctors and lawyers.

 

[mattw1313]

If you have a problem with this you’re soft

nikkas see 4th and 5th graders and think “aw poor babies” the reality is if they’re not performing at that grade level a significant portion of them will be headed to the school>>> Gang>>>Prison>>>>Welfare system pipeline .


The parents should be involved but if a kid is bombing it in 5th grade it’s likely he or she was bombing it in 1st,2nd,3rd, grade too …where were they at ? these kids need to want to be great because they’re self-driven not because their mom or dad is waiting to hit them with a frying pan .

Crying about standardized tests is goofy ..if other groups are killing it or doing substantially better we can too..fukk outta here with that shyt

The coddling has to stop.

you try hard nikkas are weird man

none of the shyt you said makes sense. other groups are doing better specifically because their mom is waiting to hit them with a frying pan.

and/or because they have teachers/tutors that do their fukking job

 

[MischievousMonkey]

I knew it was Black teachers that organized this just from reading the OP's

Reminds me of the Wire season 4; if those kids already dead on arrival with one foot in the pipeline, might as well try something

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

you try hard nikkas are weird man

none of the shyt you said makes sense. other groups are doing better specifically because their mom is waiting to hit them with a frying pan.

and/or because they have teachers/tutors that do their fukking job

Respectfully you don’t know what you’re talking about .

The goal is to have kids be self-motivated and take ownership of their learning . we know countless amount of nikkas who got threatened up the ass but because education is just a word in their house and not really stressed consistently they fall back and do the same shyt they’ve always did .

Those other groups are achieving higher because a majority of those households stress education and those kids grow up in an environment where they see what education can do for them…We don’t have that land you lying if you say we do.

A teacher or tutor can’t do shyt if the kid and parent don’t set that foundation. Don’t matter how long a kid is in front of a teacher or tutor the first thing that will pop out a kid mouth is “you ain’t my momma” …we all have seen it and some have said it .

 

[thenatural]

I looked at one of the sample tests An 8 year old should be able to knock it out, but that absolutely requires the teachers to do their jobs and the parents to help out. Also, do you any of you nikkas bickering back and forth have have kids in Florida? I don't.

 

[KRayner]

PAWG talkin about the situation

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02LprvtqJfv1ANZMTawN2FSWf7QHEL67DajDFbJF7haJZar6HB2aLTWaki46gKMzA3l&id=100035146351019&mibextid=R5ymit

that’s the covid girl who beefed with the state about hiding covid results

she’s a crazy ho tho i think she got caught in a love affair with one of her former students

Fired Florida data scientist had an affair with student

DailyMail.com can reveal that Rebekah Jones was fired in 2017 from Florida State University when she was a PhD student and instructor for having an affair with her student.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[mattw1313]

Those other groups are achieving higher because a majority of those households stress education and those kids grow up in an environment where they see what education can do for them…We don’t have that land you lying if you say we do.

of course we don't have that, we all know that

the weird thing is that you think 5th graders are supposed to be some self-driven paragons of passion for education

I'm concerned that you don't see how badly you're contradicting yourself. you point out that the source for all this is the stress placed on education at home.
in 5th grade, that means discipline; ensuring they're doing their assignments and home and that they know to pay attention and not bullshyt in class or there will be consequences.




without that at home, it's the job of the school and teacher to compensate. it's not ideal of course, but there's no way around it.

and that's why this situation is inexcusable. there's nothing to be gained from chastising the kids in this way. they'll just be more lost and less motivated than before. if there's really no help from the parents, it's the job of the school&teachers to figure out what's wrong and do something to help.

 

[Paradoxical Tiger]

They should’ve did this exact same thing, but with the parents

 

[WIA20XX]

the weird thing is that you think 5th graders are supposed to be some self-driven paragons of passion for education

This is the part that I don't get.

The teachers have to know that a 10/11/12 year old can just "knuckle down" and get it done.

Like they was playing around during test time, making pretty patterns with the multiple choice, and left the classroom early to play Nintendo switch, make a Tiktok, start twerking, and shoot an opp.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

of course we don't have that, we all know that

the weird thing is that you think 5th graders are supposed to be some self-driven paragons of passion for education

I'm concerned that you don't see how badly you're contradicting yourself. you point out that the source for all this is the stress placed on education at home.
in 5th grade, that means discipline; ensuring they're doing their assignments and home and that they know to pay attention and not bullshyt in class or there will be consequences.




without that at home, it's the job of the school and teacher to compensate. it's not ideal of course, but there's no way around it.

and that's why this situation is inexcusable. there's nothing to be gained from chastising the kids in this way. they'll just be more lost and less motivated than before. if there's really no help from the parents, it's the job of the school&teachers to figure out what's wrong and do something to help.

Yeah bro 10 year olds are supposed to have some passion for learning . That’s not some impossible ask. If those other groups can do it we can too. You’re 1000% right in saying discipline and consequences need to be stressed at home but the problem is that in majority black schools you have classrooms with 20 out of 28 kids lacking that foundation in comparison to other classrooms that have 5 out of 28 kids in a classroom lacking that foundation. It’s an impossible ask to expect schools to pick up that slack which leads to the situation we have now .

I work with and mentor kids and I hear shyt like a 13 year old saying “I didn’t go to the second grade “ and another one saying the same thing ..so now they can’t subtract

Or “I got kicked out of school in October and I didn’t go to school for the rest of the year “


The shyt is insane and there is zero way for a school to deal with that kinda shyt .

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

This is the part that I don't get.

The teachers have to know that a 10/11/12 year old can just "knuckle down" and get it done.

Like they was playing around during test time, making pretty patterns with the multiple choice, and left the classroom early to play Nintendo switch, make a Tiktok, start twerking, and shoot an opp.

10/11/12 year olds can knuckle down..schools are full of em . Those 10/11/12 years that do so is because that was instilled in them when they were 6.7,and 8 and when they’re 4 and 5 they’re being read and talked to..

If you’re trying to flip that switch at 12 it’s CURTAINS for most of them because you’re trying to figure out basic addition while everyone else Is solving inequalities .

They become discouraged then you have what we see now.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

After perusing the WP article I'm with the Black teachers on this one. It's the beginning of the school year and they are being proactive with our youth before testing begins. The tough love may have been a little too tough but I understand their motivation. The article's writer verged off on state and national politics so it gets some demerits from this reader. No comment on comments from a couple of Black parents interviewed by Fox News affiliate.
Black teachers just can't win. If they stay quiet and pc they lose, if they try old school Black community improve our race tactics they lose.

Black students for talk on test scores, parents say

By Timothy Bella


Black students at a Florida elementary school were singled out and pulled from class for an assembly about how it was a “problem” that they had performed poorly on their standardized tests, school district officials said Wednesday. The incident drew outrage from parents and prompted an investigation by the school district.


Only Black fourth- and fifth-grade students at Bunnell Elementary School in Flagler County, Fla., were taken out of class on Friday for the assembly on how to improve their grades — even students who had passing grades. Students were selected to attend based on their race, Flagler Schools spokesman Jason Wheeler told The Washington Post on Wednesday.
Black teachers showed the students a typo-laden PowerPoint presentation titled, “AA Presentation,” which noted how Black students had underperformed on standardized tests for the past three years. On the slide titled “The Problem,” the school district identified Black students as “AA,” or African Americans, in its assessment of their low overall scores, according to the presentation obtained by The Post.


The incident has drawn backlash from parents who were not alerted about an event that had “segregated” their 9- and 10-year-olds. Some say their children were told in the assembly that they could end up dead or in jail if they did not do well on their upcoming tests.
“It told my child that she was not good enough,” Jacinda Arrington told WOFL, a Fox affiliate in Orlando. “The color of your skin means that you are not good enough, when, in fact, she’s one of the smartest kids in her class.”
Another parent, Alexis Smith, told WFTV, an ABC affiliate in Orlando, that her son was panicking after the assembly. She said he asked her, “So I’m going to die, I’m going to get shot, I’m going to go to jail if I don’t do right?”

The school district is investigating how Black students were the only group that attended an event aimed at encouraging improvement in test scores. As an incentive, the students were promised meals from McDonald’s, Flagler interim superintendent LaShakia Moore said in a statement Tuesday.

“While the desire to help this particular subgroup of students is to be commended, how this was done does not meet the expectations we desire among Flagler Schools,” said Moore, who is Black.
Moore added that after speaking with Donelle Evensen, Bunnell Elementary’s new principal, “it is clear there was no malice intended in planning this student outreach.” But, she said, “sometimes, when you try to think ‘outside the box,’ you forget why the box is there.”

On Wednesday, Moore posted a video apologizing to parents.
Evensen did not immediately respond to a request for comment Wednesday morning. County School Board Chair Cheryl Massaro told The Post that while the event wasn’t intended to hurt the Black students or their parents, the School Board did not know about the plans for an assembly and would have advised against having only Black students in attendance.

“We know it was wrong, and it shouldn’t have happened. It wasn’t a great idea,” Massaro said. “It’s sad that it was segregated by race because that’s not fair. But that’s what happened.”
Wheeler said that no information has been given about what exactly was said in the assembly, specifically the claims from parents that students could end up dead or imprisoned if they didn’t perform better.

The event and the backlash to it come as Florida has dramatically changed its standards on how race and history are taught in the classroom.

I'm not

They dont know what them kids dealing with at home
And a stern talking to ain't really going to accomplish shyt anyway
I'm usually on teachers side, but that shyt is an exercise in futility
Got to take it one student at a time

And they should have thought about the optics

 

[Wildhundreds]

“We want our parents and guardians to actively participate in their children's educational successes. Without informing them of this assembly or of the plans to raise these scores, our parents were not properly engaged."


Years ago, the teachers sent home literature letting the parents know that the Iowa tests were on this date and your child need to study these things.. Do they still do this?

 

[Rollie Forbes]

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Thinking about it more, I think it's even more fukked up

I'm sure Black kids ain't just start lagging behind

So wagging your finger ain't going to help