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it all goes back to Barry's "Nora's not supposed to be here"

After he and iris finds out whats going on from RF ... he says "Nora's not supposed to be here" its supposed to be Dawn..

I was talking to my daughter about that last night


And in the mean time, Nora's getting grade A, on the job training. Show is diabolical sometimes.
 

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The Flash weds half-Kadazan lass Andrea Thoma - Nation | The Star Online

why they gotta through a ethnicity in the title... the media is heartless.. why cant it just say grant married girlfriend andrea... SMH

PETALING JAYA: Thomas Grant Gustin, who plays The Flash in the TV series, has tied the knot with Andrea Thoma.

Gustin married the 29-year-old, who is half-Kadazan, at Valentine DTLA, a 9,000-square-foot venue in Los Angeles, according to American entertainment news portal E! News.


The report said Gustin's representative confirmed the wedding, adding that the wedding took place last weekend.

"They were surrounded by their families and close friends, and it was a beautiful ceremony and an unforgettable day," the rep told E! News.

Gustin, 27, stars as Barry Allen a.k.a The Flash, the superhero in the TV series.

Last year, the couple was reported to be in Sabah for a traditional wedding ceremony.

The traditional wedding ceremony apparently took place at Thoma's family home in Kg Kolopis, Penampang and was attended by only a handful of close friends and family, including Thoma's parents, elder sister and brother.

Thoma was born in Ohio, the United States, and had lived there her whole life.

It was reported that Thoma said that she knew some of the culture practised in Sabah and can even speak a little Malay and Kadazan because of her mother.

Thoma said her family returns to Sabah every few years so as not to lose touch with their Bornean heritage.

The couple began dating in early 2016 and announced their engagement in April 2017.

 

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So I realized that I never finished the last Ep before Elseworlds so I totally missed the last 3rd of the Ep and the Reverse Flash reveal at the end :russ:

Reverse Flash being involved w/ Nora was pretty obvious but the full nature of the relationship has me curious. The way he offered her some water after finding out she wasn’t “Dawn” and the way the camera zoomed in on the bottle right before he gave it to her makes me think it’s gonna factor in somehow.

It’s unlikely but it’d be heartless if Nora was somehow created by Thawne just to fukk with Barry :ohlawd:

I’m loving how all of this is a big mystery to work through. Especially how Reverse Flash fits into things as the likely mastermind. We know from interviews that he’s the version from Crisis on Earth X who was a version from Earth-1 post killing Nora/impersonating Wels but pre-Eddie shooting himself :mindblown:

He’s gotta be another time remnant because if he was the main Reverse Flash then he’d have to get away from whatever happens in the future to return to the timeline to get wiped out of existence :mindblown::mindblown:

I’m betting that he is a time remnant that saw the moves that the Legends Season 2 remnant was making and that he was attracting the time wraiths/Black Flash so
He just fell all the way back on Earth-X. From what I remember about the time wraiths if you’re a speedster in the cut, they leave you alone. It’s only when the speedsters actions have wide reaching time or multiverse ramifications that the wraiths get involved. Zoom was on course to destroy the multiverse and Legends RF was attempting to rewrite reality.

The question then is why is this version of RF acting now and from the THEN that he’s acting from? If this is Crisis X RF, then at the end of that crossover when the Reich was beaten, he left to eventually travel to 2049 but why then out of any possible time? The Flash was still missing per the newspaper article so if revenge was the issue there’s no flash to get revenge on. Maybe it was one of the few places that he felt safe in knowing that the Flash wasn’t around then. But who then catches RF if he’s in a Flashless 2049?

He must’ve wanted to be caught and knew that Nora would visit him in Prison. Nora in 2049 is probably one of the most vulnerable speedsters in history and she has a close link to Barry, which RF wouldn’t be able to pass up trying to exploit. Maybe he’s just using Nora to do all of his time traveling dirty work. Whatever the plan is, he’s trying to be as surgical as possible (which is the reason for the time journal being used to communicate and catalog changes to timestream) but if it goes left he knows the wraiths and BF will come after Nora instead of him since she’s the active traveler. From RFs POV that’d probably still be pretty :umad: if his plan just ended with Barry’s daughter trapped in the speed force.
 
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So I realized that I never finished the last Ep before Elseworlds so I totally missed the last 3rd of the Ep and the Reverse Flash reveal at the end :russ:

Reverse Flash being involved w/ Nora was pretty obvious but the full nature of the relationship has me curious. The way he offered her some water after finding out she wasn’t “Dawn” and the way the camera zoomed in on the bottle right before he gave it to her makes me think it’s gonna factor in somehow.

It’s unlikely but it’d be heartless if Nora was somehow created by Thawne just to fukk with Barry :ohlawd:

I’m loving how all of this is a big mystery to work through. Especially how Reverse Flash fits into things as the likely mastermind. We know from interviews that he’s the version from Crisis on Earth X who was a version from Earth-1 post killing Nora/impersonating Wels but pre-Eddie shooting himself :mindblown:

He’s gotta be another time remnant because if he was the main Reverse Flash then he’d have to get away from whatever happens in the future to return to the timeline to get wiped out of existence :mindblown::mindblown:

I’m betting that he is a time remnant that saw the moves that the Legends Season 2 remnant was making and that he was attracting the time wraiths/Black Flash so
He just fell all the way back on Earth-X. From what I remember about the time wraiths if you’re a speedster in the cut, they leave you alone. It’s only when the speedsters actions have wide reaching time or multiverse ramifications that the wraiths get involved. Zoom was on course to destroy the multiverse and Legends RF was attempting to rewrite reality.

The question then is why is this version of RF acting now and from the THEN that he’s acting from? If this is Crisis X RF, then at the end of that crossover when the Reich was beaten, he left to eventually travel to 2049 but why then out of any possible time? The Flash was still missing per the newspaper article so if revenge was the issue there’s no flash to get revenge on. Maybe it was one of the few places that he felt safe in knowing that the Flash wasn’t around then. But who then catches RF if he’s in a Flashless 2049?

He must’ve wanted to be caught and knew that Nora would visit him in Prison. Nora in 2049 is probably one of the most vulnerable speedsters in history and she has a close link to Barry, which RF wouldn’t be able to pass up trying to exploit. Maybe he’s just using Nora to do all of his time traveling dirty work. Whatever the plan is, he’s trying to be as surgical as possible (which is the reason for the time journal being used to communicate and catalog changes to timestream) but if it goes left he knows the wraiths and BF will come after Nora instead of him since she’s the active traveler. From RFs POV that’d probably still be pretty :umad: if his plan just ended with Barry’s daughter trapped in the speed force.
The only way it makes sense for Thawne to still be alive is that once Black Flash killed him to correct the timeline, he went into the speed force. So he became trapped in the speed force at the same time Barry got trapped. Once Barry got out, Thawne got out too. There was the "coffee coming out the mug" scene right before Barry got out which normally represented some kind of Reverse Flash action in season 1. The issue is that he should technically have the original Reverse Flash face in both Crisis X and the episode this season. Not the Wells face.

My guess on Thawne calling her Dawn is that in the original timeline that Thawne recognizes, Barry's daughter's name is Dawn. But since he killed Barry's mother, her name became Nora instead of Dawn.

Nora most likely asked Thawne to help Barry not disappear/die in the Crisis in 2024. In return Thawne uses her to escape prison and/or speedup the time when Barry dies due to Nora's vulnerability to manipulation.
 
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