First Take Debate: Lebron or Steph; Who has been the MVP over the last 10 seasons
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You keep holding onto those fairytales while everyone else lives in reality.Lebron would have won 7 championships at this point in his career.
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Ring culture is so dumb
You keep holding onto those fairytales while everyone else lives in reality.
Not a single vote LMFAO
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Steph
Who the hell saw this level of production from the skinny shooter at Davidson
I think Steph had the biggest gap between projections of what he could be and his actual trajectory of any superstar.
Who the hell saw this level of production from the skinny shooter at DavidsonI think Steph had the biggest gap between projections of what he could be and his actual trajectory of any superstar.It is... and the old heads/Jordan stans are exactly why we are where we are. No one cares if you're loyal and dragging dogchit organizations to deep playoff runs. You'll be labeled a loser and choker until you win a ring
If you swapped out Steph for Bron, he'd have 7 titles on those Warriors teams, therefore that proves he's the MVP! - the [smart dumb] mind of a Bron stan.
If you swapped out Bron for Steph, Bron would have 7 titles on those Warriors teams, therefore that proves he's the MVP! - the [smart dumb] mind of a Bron stan.
All you know is surface arguments and memes, so I'll fight fire with fire:
Steph is 3-1 against Bron in the Finals.
Remind me again... who won FMVP in those 3 wins?All you know is surface arguments and memes, so I'll fight fire with fire:
Steph is 3-1 against Bron in the Finals.
Gotta be Steph right?
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It's LeBron.
We've seen them one the court together and at no point did anyone walk away thinking that Curry was the better player. He just always had the better talent around him.
We've seen them one the court together and at no point did anyone walk away thinking that Curry was the better player. He just always had the better talent around him.
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Steph
He wasn’t fence hoppin in his prime to win championships.
Did it all on the team that drafted him.
He wasn’t fence hoppin in his prime to win championships.
Did it all on the team that drafted him.
This is such an elementary way of looking at it.
Steph cultivated the culture/system that led to a dynasty and the players that played alongside him became the best versions of themselves. Does Draymond become the player he does if he plays alongside Bron for his entire career, or would he have likely been traded long ago for a shooter? Does Wiggins turn into the same player if he played alongside Bron? How many players have played alongside Steph and become better as a result? How many players have benefitted from Steph being the most selfless superstar of the modern era? How many players have benefitted from having more easy scoring opportunities as a result from his gravity and off-ball movement?
Nobody should hold it against Bron that he wanted to maximize his chances of winning by hopping from team to team, but there's a reason why he hasn't been able to create the same environment that Steph has.
So he's got 3 FMVPs right?
Idk my Google isn't working, so obviously he had to have been the best player on the floor right?