First Medicaid, now Social Security is “fraud” per Elon (and may be cut).

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People keep saying these guys are stupid.

They aren't. They know what the effect will be and they do not care because they know that the American public is stupid. They are behaving as though the public is stupid and they've been right. If they weren't, Trump would've been laughed off the campaign trail in 2016. There would not be millions of people who believed Obama wasn't a citizen in 2008. The 2000 election would've been a massive loss for Republicans since they were running against the vice president of an administration that created a budget surplus--a first in several decades.

If this country weren't filled with morons, the KKK would never have been able to rise up to be a threat to black people and derail reconstruction in the south. If this country wasn't filled with idiots, the humanity of black people wouldn't still be up for debate despite our various achievements in literally every single field in this country.

If this country wasn't run by morons, Elon musk--an obvious fraud-- would have been investigated and prosecuted for wage theft, and the rich wouldn't be allowed to keep using stock in their overvalued companies as collateral to secure loans and never pay taxes. The discovery that the rich had been hiding money in tax havens would have led to sweeping changes. Instead the Panama palers and paradise papers leaks changed nothing.

But as I said, they move with the assumption that the public--ESPECIALLY white people are morons. They've been right. Nothing will change on a national level to reign things in, but you can change your state from the inside. You need to decide what kind of state you want to live in. California used to have free university until Reagan took over. There are states with paid maternity leave.

Note how none of them are in the south. Massachusetts has the second best gun control laws in the union. How many mass shooting have happened in Mass. This year?

Which states have the best health care systems?
Spoiler:
NONE of them are read states

America's states are highly autonomous. Even if a Democrat was in the Whitehouse and somehow convinced congress to fund trillions for things like Healthcare and education, if you live in a red state your state representatives will refuse to access the maximum amount of federal funding because they dont want to be seen as working with "the enemy" even if it's for the benefit if the people living in the state.

Focus on your local elections and support the politicians who will want to put millions into state funds that will have to be used to replace the federal funding that they'll lose. If you're in a red state your life is about to get much worse unless you can flip that shyt blue and support any local politician who wants to strengthen your state by investing in the kind of legislation and policies that increase life expectancy, decrease crime, improve the general wealth equality of people within the state, etc.

Trump will eventually die or leave office, an election will need to happen. Whomever ran their state the best during this time period will be able to use those achievements to make a case to the public that they should be in charge of the federal government. You can be involved in that by working right now to support any progressive voices in your state.
Thankfully no one else under MAGA is even remotely likeable and marketable.

Trump has been boasting of a 12 year plan to do what he wants and doesn't see Vance as his successor... they're seemingly setting up a Roman style dictatorship where they announce their successor. Although I think Trump will try to do this until he dies, I really think DJT Jr. Might be his successor. He ain't Don Sr., but he might be the only other marketable MAGA member and that's off pure name recognition alone.

For dictatorships to work, the quality of life needs to stabilize or increase, the people need to be afraid, and the leader needs to be charismatic. If one of those breaks, there might be some daylight. My other fear is, I don't think they've even scratched the surface on how much fear and pain they want to project.
 

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What I want to know is how some one who’s a CEO of 3 companies and is on Twitter 24/7 has the time and expertise to audit multiple government agencies?
Why is Mitch McConnell the only republican who is openly standing against Trump?
Plug data into AI and ask it to find problems then act like you're a genius.
 

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Bonus: this is how our Vice President and potential President in the near future talks to people.



These guys simply don’t care about people, nor how they act in public nor the consequences of their actions.

Straight up treating people like shyt.

Why should they worry about your retirement when they can put a police force in front of them?
 

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Thankfully no one else under MAGA is even remotely likeable and marketable.

Trump has been boasting of a 12 year plan to do what he wants and doesn't see Vance as his successor... they're seemingly setting up a Roman style dictatorship where they announce their successor. Although I think Trump will try to do this until he dies, I really think DJT Jr. Might be his successor. He ain't Don Sr., but he might be the only other marketable MAGA member and that's off pure name recognition alone.

For dictatorships to work, the quality of life needs to stabilize or increase, the people need to be afraid, and the leader needs to be charismatic. If one of those breaks, there might be some daylight. My other fear is, I don't think they've even scratched the surface on how much fear and pain they want to project.
None of that will even really matter at the end of the day if their base of support literally shrinks.

Monarchy and blind obedience to authority isn't in the American character or history. Other countries refer to their president as "your excellency" but that isn't the case here. The republican base REQUIRES stupidity to exist. But with the gutting of various agencies meant to reduce people's risk of dying and this shyt coming down the line:

You're going to see a massive IQ test that spans all 50 states. What i mean is that like how covid tore through red states, a combination of various things(lax standards around food and medicine, quack cures that kill or create lifelong disability, maternal mortality, senior death from lack of affordable medication and treatments, crime going out of control because the local police forces are focused on finding non white people and ignoring crime being done by white criminals which will surge in number) will lead to thousands of people dying every month in red states. If you are someone that believes in the scientific method and use your own personal resources to protect yourself(e.g. going out of state to give birth or buy medication, buying and using medical supplies to protect yourself from disease, staying in the blue districts of your city which invest more in social services and crime prevention, better school systems where teachers ignore state guidelines and actually teach children facts and logic instead of propaganda) you and yours will survive and you will survive long enough to vote for anyone who actually wants people to live. That is what will flip districts and states.

The typical republican voter(an idiot) won't take precautions and will be too busy fighting for their lives at home(hospitals will be too crowded) to go out and vote against any politician with a progressive agenda and you'll start seeing red states flip as the republican base of support literally dies because they've been choosing to believe propaganda instead of facts.

A trump dictatorship can then be overturned by a real progressive party who may be willing to use state militias and soldiers on bases who refuse to comply with a dictatorship to force Trump and his magats out of DC and reclaim democracy.

We aren't there yet though. Give it time. Birdflu, covid mutations, and lord knows what else will run through and kill every moron in this country that refuses to take it seriously. Every state that refused to invest heavily in education and Healthcare will pay the price, and progressive voices in those states will grow in strength because the base of support that Republicans have(white imbeciles) will literally not exist or will be too crippled with chronic health problems to turn out and vote.

I'll keep my eye on the(independent) news for the death rates. As grim as it sounds, I will be smoking that maga pack. These people want us dead and project all their failures and flaws onto us. I will shed no tears knowing they're fighting to breathe at home or in the hospital. They voted for this shyt because they hate us more than they liked living in a functional country. They will pay the price for their hatred in their own blood as the people they chose to support kill them. Don't worry magats, you definitely won't have to worry about wokeness when you fall into eternal slumber. :wow:
 
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None of that will even really matter at the end of the day if their base of support literally shrinks.

Monarchy and blind obedience to authority isn't in the American character or history. Other countries refer to their president as "your excellency" but that isn't the case here. The republican base REQUIRES stupidity to exist. But with the gutting of various agencies meant to reduce people's risk of dying and this shyt coming down the line:

You're going to see a massive IQ test that spans all 50 states. What i mean is that like how covid tore through red states, a combination of various things(lax standards around food and medicine, quack cures that kill or create lifelong disability, maternal mortality, senior death from lack of affordable medication and treatments, crime going out of control because the local police forces are focused on finding non white people and ignoring crime being done by white criminals which will surge in number) will lead to thousands of people dying every month in red states. If you are someone that believes in the scientific method and use your own personal resources to protect yourself(e.g. going out of state to give birth or buy medication, buying and using medical supplies to protect yourself from disease, staying in the blue districts of your city which invest more in social services and crime prevention, better school systems where teachers ignore state guidelines and actually teach children facts and logic instead of propaganda) you and yours will survive and you will survive long enough to vote for anyone who actually wants people to live. That is what will flip districts and states.

The typical republican voter(an idiot) won't take precautions and will be too busy fighting for their lives at home(hospitals will be too crowded) to go out and vote against any politician with a progressive agenda and you'll start seeing red states flip as the republican base of support literally dies because they've been choosing to believe propaganda instead of facts.

A trump dictatorship can then be overturned by a real progressive party who may be willing to use state militias and soldiers on bases who refuse to comply with a dictatorship to force Trump and his magats out of DC and reclaim democracy.

We aren't there yet though. Give it time. Birdflu, covid mutations, and lord knows what else will run through and kill everyone moron in this country that refuses to take it seriously. Every state that refused to invest heavily in education and Healthcare will pay the price, and progressive voices in those states will grow in strength because the base of support that Republicans have(white imbeciles) will literally not exist or will be too crippled with chronic health problems to turn out and vote.
I really want to believe he's going to piss off enough people, but the Overton window keeps moving, the press is becoming more opaque, there will be nothing but loyalists after Trump is gone, and Gen Z coming behind us won't really know what was previously known as societal standards. Then say nothing about all of the bullshyt and stunts they're going to pull around election time. And the big elephant in the room... the country is just fukking stupid. Racism is a component... but 25% of this country's adult population doesn't have a 9th graders level of aptitude.
 

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None of that will even really matter at the end of the day if their base of support literally shrinks.

Monarchy and blind obedience to authority isn't in the American character or history. Other countries refer to their president as "your excellency" but that isn't the case here. The republican base REQUIRES stupidity to exist. But with the gutting of various agencies meant to reduce people's risk of dying and this shyt coming down the line:

You're going to see a massive IQ test that spans all 50 states. What i mean is that like how covid tore through red states, a combination of various things(lax standards around food and medicine, quack cures that kill or create lifelong disability, maternal mortality, senior death from lack of affordable medication and treatments, crime going out of control because the local police forces are focused on finding non white people and ignoring crime being done by white criminals which will surge in number) will lead to thousands of people dying every month in red states. If you are someone that believes in the scientific method and use your own personal resources to protect yourself(e.g. going out of state to give birth or buy medication, buying and using medical supplies to protect yourself from disease, staying in the blue districts of your city which invest more in social services and crime prevention, better school systems where teachers ignore state guidelines and actually teach children facts and logic instead of propaganda) you and yours will survive and you will survive long enough to vote for anyone who actually wants people to live. That is what will flip districts and states.

The typical republican voter(an idiot) won't take precautions and will be too busy fighting for their lives at home(hospitals will be too crowded) to go out and vote against any politician with a progressive agenda and you'll start seeing red states flip as the republican base of support literally dies because they've been choosing to believe propaganda instead of facts.

A trump dictatorship can then be overturned by a real progressive party who may be willing to use state militias and soldiers on bases who refuse to comply with a dictatorship to force Trump and his magats out of DC and reclaim democracy.

We aren't there yet though. Give it time. Birdflu, covid mutations, and lord knows what else will run through and kill every moron in this country that refuses to take it seriously. Every state that refused to invest heavily in education and Healthcare will pay the price, and progressive voices in those states will grow in strength because the base of support that Republicans have(white imbeciles) will literally not exist or will be too crippled with chronic health problems to turn out and vote.

I'll keep my eye on the(independent) news for the death rates. As grim as it sounds, I will be smoking that maga pack. These people want us dead and project all their failures and flaws onto us. I will shed no tears knowing they're fighting to breathe at home or in the hospital. They voted for this shyt because they hate us more than they liked living in a functional country. They will pay the price for their hatred in their own blood as the people they chose to support kill them. Don't worry magats, you definitely won't have to worry about wokeness when you fall into eternal slumber. :wow:
A governor can go the military/militia route RIGHT NOW and tell the world they will ________ or arrest Trump and anybody in his cabinet if they enter his state. Pritsker, Whitmore, Newsome, ect.

As soon as you make them fear you, then you actually lay somebody down, the people will fukking follow you to the end. Life is not a guarantee at the end of that tunnel, but if you are trying to change the world, it's worth your life imo.

Some people feel different, and that's cool. But me, I don't see a way out of this without a few Republicans coming up missing. A governor can literally get that shyt started as soon as they felt the need to. Maybe it's not that time yet, but I suggest that time hurries up and comes before the power is completely secured. Then we definitely lose.
 

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He has more security than a President and rarely goes in public these days. He even cancelled several speaking engagements. He knows what will happen if he does…
 
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