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I think Aster wins mostly with a populist crowd because he makes a considerable effort to show disturbing gore visuals that mimic gore as realistically as possible, while also trying to have those “moments” that stick in your head i.e. the “blood eagle” thing. For People who don’t watch tons of horror movies, this is something new.

A good comparison would be the way gore is depicted in Event Horizon - meant to shock with its extremity (stood out among 90s movies especially). Aster tries for horrific set-ups in Midsommar much like Anderson does in Event Horizon, but I think he subconsciously also pulls his punches a little so that his tone doesn’t go in to campy territory and keeps that “elevated” indie look.

That hindrence, on top of flat and pretty uninspired characters and actors portraying them, was what made this fail in my mind. But that’s I guess the key piece: it fails for ME, but there’s no denying a lot of people that got a lot more out of this (letterboxd users can attest... lol). So, ultimately I think there will always be a lane of popular horror that works because people will shell out tickets. Gruesome realism is now in-Vogue thanks to Aster the way that James Wan’s fundamentalist haunted-house movies took over in the late-00’s/early 2010’s. Can’t be too mad at it, though it’s not great to me. Pretty much feel the same way about Hereditary though I liked that one at least a little bit more.
 
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Agree with all your takes. “Us” had script issues but had one vision and a manageable runtime. Midsommar was a mess and wasn’t even one of those “too many good ideas” script-problems, this had one general thesis and dragged it out greatly with little else to chew on or enjoy in the meantime.
Yeah it was a lot of nice shots but there wasn't much else to the film.
 

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I think Aster wins mostly with a populist crowd because he makes a considerable effort to show disturbing gore visuals that mimic gore as realistically as possible, while also trying to have those “moments” that stick in your head i.e. the “blood eagle” thing. For People who don’t watch tons of horror movies, this is something new.

A good comparison would be the way gore is depicted in Event Horizon - meant to shock with its extremity (stood out among 90s movies especially). Aster tries for horrific set-ups in Midsommar much like Anderson does in Event Horizon, but I think he subconsciously also pulls his punches a little so that his tone doesn’t go in to campy territory and keeps that “elevated” indie look.

That hindrence, on top of flat and pretty uninspired characters and actors portraying them, was what made this fail in my mind. But that’s I guess the key piece: it fails for ME, but there’s no denying a lot of people that got a lot more out of this (letterboxd users can attest... lol). So, ultimately I think there will always be a lane of popular horror that works because people will shell out tickets. Gruesome realism is now in-Vogue thanks to Aster the way that James Wan’s fundamentalist haunted-house movies took over in the late-00’s/early 2010’s. Can’t be too mad at it, though it’s not great to me. Pretty much feel the same way about Hereditary though I liked that one at least a little bit more.
Also a lot of the characters who died remind me of vapid slasher victims.
 

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Also a lot of the characters who died remind me of vapid slasher victims.
Yeah the kills were highly underwhelming. More to my point about Aster pulling his punches at the worst times, probably to avoid being seen as campy.

At the end of the day the movie was a murder by numbers type of slasher. I think he was trying to forgoe that formula by instead creating an unsettling atmosphere however it only partially worked for me.
 

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Yeah how they flipped the porn stereotypes and gave those stereotypes more introspection was actually dope.
When that Jace cat was playing catch with the detective in the kitchen.

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Rented this with my ex awhile back and was disappointed. Only rented cause people told me it was dark and disturbing. I was waiting for something to happen. Yes I understood the plot and yes the whole movie was ass cheeks.
 

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He was a snake, literally threw his man's under the bus. Didn't comfort his gf really at all when she was having ptsd attacks. He seemed like a bad friend.

What he did to the black dude, yeah.

But as for him dealing with his gf I addressed this in the main thread:

Apart form the fact this movie is just boring and weird for the sake of it, it's nothing more than feminist/simp propaganda.

I don't understand either how the dude is supposed to be the bad guy. He was long suffering in a toxic relationship for four years and even the chick admitted she's way too much of an emotional burden and that's why he's distant. He was already on his way out but then tragedy struck and he got trapped, but still did his best to comfort her. His friends could see it was having a bad effect on him and that's why they weren't keen on her, but he still agreed to take her along and even remembered her birthday when she thought he didn't. Besides, it's not like they were married so what more did the audience want from him?

Also, because he's supposedly an a$$hole....then I'm supposed to feel he deserved to be drugged, coerced into sex (imagine the furore if the genders were reversed in this movie) and then burned alive at the end and feel happy for a chick who sent him to his death because she supposedly now has a new family? :aicmon:

bytches leave dudes all the time for being "boring", but a young man with his whole life ahead of him is supposed to suffer forever cos a broad who shouldn't even be in a relationship in the first place can't sort herself out emotionally?

I find it interesting that the boyfriend is supposedly the bad guy, but not their 'friend' who actually set them all up to be sacrificed in the first place? :rudy:

It's such a stupid fukking movie with a bad message.
 
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