Film Room Madness: #12 Fast and Furious vs #21 Die Hard

What's the better franchise?


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Deltron

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I'm probably in the minority but DH2 is my favorite one...it has my favorite sequence in the franchise:


and the use of Yippie Ki Yay is iconic and set the precedent for the series. DH1 may have introduced the phrase, but DH2 solidified it as the fukk you to the bad guys
 

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Die Hard & Die Hard with a Vengeance vs F&F 4-whatever number they're on now. Changing it to heist/action/adventure was the best thing that ever happened to the franchise. They've surpassed all of the generic "heist" flicks of the 00's with fun & action.

But similar to Alien vs MI, I have too take the quality. As good as the F&F series has been, none come close to With a Vengeance, let alone Die Hard, so...Die Hard it is
 

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I'm probably in the minority but DH2 is my favorite one...it has my favorite sequence in the franchise:


and the use of Yippie Ki Yay is iconic and set the precedent for the series. DH1 may have introduced the phrase, but DH2 solidified it as the fukk you to the bad guys

Dope scene. Terrible plot.

Felt like die hard tho, Renny Harlin did a good job directing, the script was just really dumb when you think about it.

The fight on the wing of a 747 was dope and something even FF series can't match with all their over the top stunts and ideas.
 

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They never show the FF characters getting hurt, the stakes in the die hard movies are way higher and you empathize for John McClain as he puts himself through hell to save the day.
Exactly, the FF movies there are no consequences or really any sort of realism..like none at all, just a bunch of fukkery that people find entertaining. McClane would always be fukked up, especially in die hard 1 and 3. All bloody, barley walking, just about ready to pass out.
 

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While I adore Die Hard and Die Hard with a Vengeance, and love them more than any Fast and Furious flick, FF is just the more consistent for me. There are five Die Hard flicks and I only truly like two of them. There are moments in the other three that i do like, but that series takes a nosedive anytime someone not name John McTiernan directs one. Also doesn't help that they've turned McClane into a superhero.

On the flip side, turning the FF crew into superheroes has done wonders for the series. While Fate of the Furious is meh for me and sorely misses Paul Walker and some energy from anyone in front of the camera (besides Charlize), that series has been on a role since part 4. From 09-16, Justin Lin and James Wan dropped nothing but heat, with Fast Five being one of the best action flicks this decade. Fast and Furious has shown the ability to reinvent itself, something Die Hard sorely needs.

I'll watch 2 Fast, Fast and Furious, Fast Five, Furious 6, and Furious 7 before I watch any Die Hard that's not 1 or 3.

Much like the Alien vs M:I matchup, this one is about consistency of a franchise vs great movies. Die Hard 1 and 3 take dookies on any fast and furious flick, buuuuuuut FF has more good movies on its resume and that counts a lot for me.

This is exactly how I feel, but the more I think about it...Die Hard 1 and 3 are so good in comparison to anything F&F has...Fast 5 is the only one that can relatively compete. The first 3 individually didn't know what type of franchise they wanted to be...4 they caught the rhythm of what we have now, but wasn't quite epic enough, 6, 7, and 8 were just too over the top to be rewatchable past anyone older than a teenager.

However, I have to give the edge to Die Hard because 1 and 3 were so genre defining. Damn near every action movie in the 90's bit John Mctiernan's style...Michael Bay basically took his style exaggerated the fukk out of it, and ran with it.
 

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F&F is a series I'll give props for putting several different faces at the forefront and marketing the movie as such to appeal to a worldwide audience. However, the F&F series has been all over the place like a poster already. It's actually felt like several series within 1 and this could work with good storytelling and character progression but that ain't F&F.

Die Hard by itself is in my top 5 most rewatchable films. It's a film that you can just watch as many times as you want and never be bored by, it's that good. Then the pairing of Sam & Bruce in DH3 is off he charts great. Both series are entertaining but I only find one truly great.

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They never show the FF characters getting hurt, the stakes in the die hard movies are way higher and you empathize for John McClain as he puts himself through hell to save the day.

The first three movies yeah. But McClane has been just as much a superhero since 07 and it’s hurt his movies rather than helped
 

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I’ve seen every FF. I’ve seen every DH outside the 2nd. Vengeance is the best movie out of both franchises. But for consistency I have to go with FF. No matter what you know what you are getting. The last few die hard a have been crappy, especially the last one with bootleg Sam Worthington
 
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