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Connery's steel charm is very convincing as a ladies man. Moore was just never right for the part of Bond seeing how he played The Saint like a proverbial glove that was better suited for him. But if anything that I believed as I was watching him onscreen, is that Moore's 007 didn't have a problem bedding women.
He kinda sucked with the action portion of his run:mjlol:
And my boy Lazenby blowing out backs at Piz Gloria :banderas:

Yeah to his credit tho, he doesn't front about action not being his thing which is why his fighting scenes are terrible. even with stuntmen they're terrible. But yeah I just never had an issue believing Craig could bed women but at the same time, he's really only been involved with one woman in his movies seriously. The rest really were to past time
 

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Yeah to his credit tho, he doesn't front about action not being his thing which is why his fighting scenes are terrible. even with stuntmen they're terrible. But yeah I just never had an issue believing Craig could bed women but at the same time, he's really only been involved with one woman in his movies seriously. The rest really were to past time
To Craig's credit, perhaps not being seen as much of a savage on women considering the static feminist climate nowadays may have shaped my opinion of him with women.
And with Barbara Broccoli as the producer, there's a female sensibility to Bond's relationships.

It was very clear that Cubby was #HOH with his Bond:lolbron:
 

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To Craig's credit, perhaps not being seen as much of a savage on women considering the static feminist climate nowadays may have shaped my opinion of him with women.
And with Barbara Broccoli as the producer, there's a female sensibility to Bond's relationships.

It was very clear that Cubby was #HOH with his Bond:lolbron:

Bond always changes with the time homie. You know that better than anyone. When smoking became a huge deal he stopped smoking cigarettes. When AIDS was on everyone's minds, he stopped bedding as many chicks. When the 90s came he got called out for being mysoginist and they gave him a female boss to reflect the real world MI5. And Craig is the post 9/11 Bond. He can't be as savage as he was during the 60s ans 70s where he'd smack them or even twist arms and shyt lol. Even Cubby had to fold to some of that shyt in the 80s and with goldeneye.

I also think his tenure when it comes to women is colored in the fact that his first film saw him fall in love and then he deeply scarred by that. Having him just jump into bed with chick after chick probably wouldn't ring true after that. At least not for quantum of solace
 

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Bond always changes with the time homie. You know that better than anyone. When smoking became a huge deal he stopped smoking cigarettes. When AIDS was on everyone's minds, he stopped bedding as many chicks. When the 90s came he got called out for being mysoginist and they gave him a female boss to reflect the real world MI5. And Craig is the post 9/11 Bond. He can't be as savage as he was during the 60s ans 70s where he'd smack them or even twist arms and shyt lol. Even Cubby had to fold to some of that shyt in the 80s and with goldeneye.

I also think his tenure when it comes to women is colored in the fact that his first film saw him fall in love and then he deeply scarred by that. Having him just jump into bed with chick after chick probably wouldn't ring true after that. At least not for quantum of solace
Of course I'm aware of this. That's why I think his better days are behind him but I'm still a fan as long as they put out quality films....

I've been waiting since 2006 though...:stopitslime:
 

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Of course I'm aware of this. That's why I think his better days are behind him but I'm still a fan as long as they put out quality films....

I've been waiting since 2006 though...:stopitslime:

Shyt I been happy as hell since 06. I'm not a big fan of Quantum and I like Spectre but I'm not wild about it, but Casino Royale is my favorite bond flick of all time and I love Skyfall. I feel like those are two of the best in the series. Craig has revitalized the series after most people felt it was dead in the water
 

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Shyt I been happy as hell since 06. I'm not a big fan of Quantum and I like Spectre but I'm not wild about it, but Casino Royale is my favorite bond flick of all time and I love Skyfall. I feel like those are two of the best in the series. Craig has revitalized the series after most people felt it was dead in the water
Hey, breh it's all good. If you love Craig, far be it from me to dissuade you. CR is up there with OHMSS far as I'm concerned.

Skyfall had a dope climax but the rest was meh, QoS sucked and Skyfall showed that the actor was disinterested :francis:
 

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Hey, breh it's all good. If you love Craig, far be it from me to dissuade you. CR is up there with OHMSS far as I'm concerned.

Skyfall had a dope climax but the rest was meh, QoS sucked and Skyfall showed that the actor was disinterested :francis:

I don't think he was disinterested. I think it was tearing his knee in that fight scene with the animal that sort of hampered him lol
 

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@IllustratorMike meant to ask, but what would get the series back on track in your mind since clearly not all Bond fans agree on the best direction
Well in Craig's case, I'd start with a formidable villian. So far everyone he's encountered come off as a little effeminate.
Largo, Scaramanga, Dr. No, Red Grant, SANCHEZ...all legit asskickers.

I mean really...who here on The Coli couldn't whup Dominic Greene's ass?:martin:

I'd start with that at least.
 
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Honestly, I've only seen the Brosnan and Craig movies so I can only compare those joints.

They are both good in the part. Craig is clearly a more modern take. Make no mistake, his Bond can still be sensitive and suave, but he clearly has a more current Walter White/anti-hero type of thing going on in comparison to Brosnan. On the same token, Brosnan could be vicious, but he also was slightly more suave, and he also used those classic one-liners a bit more.

Goldeneye is the only Brosnan movie that gets any respect. There is still a lot of that pre-Craig silliness in it to be honest, and it's hard to rate it over something that feels so grounded like Casino Royale. But it's an extremely competent action movie with some very memorable characters (The Russian mobster guy, Jean Grey, the geeky computer nerd, Trevelyan) and set-pieces (the opening, the tank chase, antenna scene at the end). And my understanding is that it low-key saved the franchise, so there's that. I personally think that Tomorrow Never Dies is *slightly* underrated but most don't feel that way. The World Is Not Enough is horrible and I've not got much to say about it. Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist, played mostly straight? Die Another Day had a bizarre plot with Asian cats turning themselves into white bois and invisible cars and ice cities and all that nonsense. Trying to use Bond to create a Halle Berry Jinx spin-off....:camby:

The Craig movies are better, but dare I say, he's still only batting 2/4. Casino Royale is the only film that I would rate as a legitimately great movie irregardless of genre or franchise. That relationship between Bond and Vesper was genuinely romantic and made you want to root for them. Which of course made the end gut-wrenching. I think that the card scenes are perfect. THAT'S how you create suspense in your action movie without relying on a gun-fight or car chase or set-piece. I really didn't care for Quantum Of Solace. I've heard it said that people would have liked it as a non-Bond film, but that placing the Bond veneer over that story didn't work. I kind of disagree. It was messy. Skyfall was a return to form, extremely retrospective, and had a memorable villain. My only issue was the pacing. The final third of the movie at his old home was well done, but there was no way to transition to that without it being jarring. I thought that Spectre was a huge misstep. It seems like they were blatantly trying to make a nostalgia based Bond, using all of the bells and whistles from the old films (That, to be fair, I've never seen, but understand through osmosis).

Out of the ones I've seen, Eva Green is definitely the best Bond girl. Natayla second. Olga Kurylenko 3rd (I didn't like her movie, but she was class).

Best villain : Sean Bean and Javier Bardem are super close and it's hard to get any distance between them...I think that they both play great foils to Bond while commenting on what it means/meant to be a 00.

Craig deserves one more, but I'd happily support another take after this 5th one. Not because of him, but because I just think one should only play the character for so long...:yeshrug:
 

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Honestly, I've only seen the Brosnan and Craig movies so I can only compare those joints.

They are both good in the part. Craig is clearly a more modern take. Make no mistake, his Bond can still be sensitive and suave, but he clearly has a more current Walter White/anti-hero type of thing going on in comparison to Brosnan. On the same token, Brosnan could be vicious, but he also was slightly more suave, and he also used those classic one-liners a bit more.

Goldeneye is the only Brosnan movie that gets any respect. There is still a lot of that pre-Craig silliness in it to be honest, and it's hard to rate it over something that feels so grounded like Casino Royale. But it's an extremely competent action movie with some very memorable characters (The Russian mobster guy, Jean Grey, the geeky computer nerd, Trevelyan) and set-pieces (the opening, the tank chase, antenna scene at the end). And my understanding is that it low-key saved the franchise, so there's that. I personally think that Tomorrow Never Dies is *slightly* underrated but most don't feel that way. The World Is Not Enough is horrible and I've not got much to say about it. Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist, played mostly straight? Die Another Day had a bizarre plot with Asian cats turning themselves into white bois and invisible cars and ice cities and all that nonsense. Trying to use Bond to create a Halle Berry Jinx spin-off....:camby:

The Craig movies are better, but dare I say, he's still only batting 2/4. Casino Royale is the only film that I would rate as a legitimately great movie irregardless of genre or franchise. That relationship between Bond and Vesper was genuinely romantic and made you want to root for them. Which of course made the end gut-wrenching. I think that the card scenes are perfect. THAT'S how you create suspense in your action movie without relying on a gun-fight or car chase or set-piece. I really didn't care for Quantum Of Solace. I've heard it said that people would have liked it as a non-Bond film, but that placing the Bond veneer over that story didn't work. I kind of disagree. It was messy. Skyfall was a return to form, extremely retrospective, and had a memorable villain. My only issue was the pacing. The final third of the movie at his old home was well done, but there was no way to transition to that without it being jarring. I thought that Spectre was a huge misstep. It seems like they were blatantly trying to make a nostalgia based Bond, using all of the bells and whistles from the old films (That, to be fair, I've never seen, but understand through osmosis).

Out of the ones I've seen, Eva Green is definitely the best Bond girl. Natayla second. Olga Kurylenko 3rd (I didn't like her movie, but she was class).

Best villain : Sean Bean and Javier Bardem are super close and it's hard to get any distance between them...I think that they both play great foils to Bond while commenting on what it means/meant to be a 00.

Craig deserves one more, but I'd happily support another take after this 5th one. Not because of him, but because I just think one should only play the character for so long...:yeshrug:
nikka, NOBODY bout to read all this shyt about James fukkin Bond :dahell:
 

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Shyt it fell apart after the first act in my mind

Michael Wilson said once that they always set out to make From Russia With Love but sometimes they end up making Moonraker. Die Another Day is the perfect example of that:russ: First act is setting up something interesting and an actual spy story. Once he gets out of Korea, shyt is downhill

Great sword fight tho.

nikka, NOBODY bout to read all this shyt about James fukkin Bond :dahell:

I did.
 
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