FD finally dropped the Drake vs Dot video :wow:

[spliz]

Loving something doesn't make you of it

So what makes u of it? If loving it, studying it, and participating in it doesn't?

 

[Piff Perkins]

Agreed on the bolded. I think this is a case of people taking their own thoughts and experiences bothbfron listening to the album, and events that are tied to songs from the album, and associating them so closely as to make blackness the overall theme, when I don't think it actual is.

When I listened to it the first time, and on subsequent listens when taking into account the loose meta narrative he's had going over his albums, it definitely came off to me more as being about survivor's remorse, coping with the responsibility of fame/notoriety, and not really knowing what comes next after making it through something traumatic.

But in fairness, that's what art left to interpretation does. It gets interpreted differently by other people.




All that said, I'm not watching this fukking video. I like FD, and think that he's a smart person with content that people should engage with, even if they don't agree with what he's saying at times. But making a three and a half hour video that, by what I'm gathering, is basically "I'm not really a fan of Drake, and here's why" is some weird shyt.

Agreed. He also ties his personal experience into themes that certainly have importance within "blackness." Complexion, Blacker The Berry, You Ain't Gotta Lie, etc. But I think so much media and fan interest was on that aspect, plus the activist era that 2015/2016 was amplified it. In some ways a lot of the album is similar to many sophomore albums, or followups to extremely successful albums. A lot of doubt, fear, depression.

Another thing the album reminds me of a lot is Common's verse on Respiration, about going back home and realizing his man had never been outside of Chicago. Kendrick has mentioned it before but his trip to (South) Africa greatly impacted him, and when he came back home he couldn't get his homies to think beyond the block. Then he realized the similarities between Compton and what he learned about Africa.

I agree it's all open to interpretation, I just wish more critics focused on it as more than "the black album."

 

[AMcV'88]

no way people sit and watch this shyt ?

this first four seconds were enough for me not take him seriously

can't fault him though, there is an audience of bozo's that need someone to affirm or tell them how to think

 

[Playaz Eyez]

the shyt is transparent projection of these weird narratives they have about trying to cast kendrick as some messiah figure. The triple-standards and backstabbing of rhetoric is nakedly opportunistic. It’s just odd.

This “culture” convo is bunch of BLM rejects trying to gatekeep blackness to the expense of anyone who doesn’t comply with the hotep Neo-soul “real hip hop” circles. The same people talking about rejecting commercialism want their own tastes to be revered and elevated as financial successes. It’s all over the place.

…not to mention…Drake IS of the culture and it explains why they have to to try so hard to exclude him. It’s just very odd.

Again…ask yourself why J Cole and Ebro are accepted at this moment and Drake isn’t.

I’ve only watched about 30 minutes of the video and I can tell why you and the 7 other people that dapped your post feel this way. He was directly talking to yall and hit dogs are hollering And based on this thread being at 17 pages, I know yall Aubrey Angels and Owlettes have been punching the air on every single page.

 

[Legal]

So what makes u of it? If loving it, studying it, and participating in it doesn't?

I get what he's trying to say. Say, for example, you really like Japan. You can study Japanese culture, you can love it, and participate in it as much as possible, but truthfully speaking, you will never be culturally seen as Japanese. You're merely someone with great appreciation for that culture. There are plenty of white folks that legit have the same love, study, and participation of other cultures that acknowledge that they will never actually be OF those cultures, even if they make their interest of that culture their career.

I think the problem here is that hip hop culture and black culture are so closely intertwined. With the stuff that's apparently being said in the video, like not taking the easy layup of hitting Kendrick with a never ending line of hotep jokes, that's more about black (and more specifically, black American) culture, not hip hop. Anyone that appreciates the art can, in theory, be part of hip hop culture. Actually being IN black culture is different. And really, Drake's problem is the same as most mixed kids who have parents that didn't stay together: he has a complicated relationship with his own blackness via the strained relationships between his parents. Also doesn't help that he's a Canadian in a culture largely driven by American sensibilities.

 

[spliz]

I get what he's trying to say. Say, for example, you really like Japan. You can study Japanese culture, you can love it, and participate in it as much as possible, but truthfully speaking, you will never be culturally seen as Japanese. You're merely someone with great appreciation for that culture. There are plenty of white folks that legit have the same love, study, and participation of other cultures that acknowledge that they will never actually be OF those cultures, even if they make their interest of that culture their career.

I think the problem here is that hip hop culture and black culture are so closely intertwined. With the stuff that's apparently being said in the video, like not taking the easy layup of hitting Kendrick with a never ending line of hotep jokes, that's more about black (and more specifically, black American) culture, not hip hop. Anyone that appreciates the art can, in theory, be part of hip hop culture. Actually being IN black culture is different. And really, Drake's problem is the same as most mixed kids who have parents that didn't stay together: he has a complicated relationship with his own blackness via the strained relationships between his parents. Also doesn't help that he's a Canadian in a culture largely driven by American sensibilities.

Japan is a ethnicity and culture. Hip hop is black culture that others participate in. It's an action. And if u have the actions of someone who is intertwined with the culture. Paid ur dues. And participate. How are u not of it? That's like saying Slick Rick and Monie Love wasn't of the culture because they were from UK. Drake has a black American father. Explain how he's not of the culture? If a half white half Japanese person has a parent that lives in Japan. Spent every summer in Japan. Got in tune with Japanese customs etc etc and lived there for over half their life. Yes. They would be of that culture. Was Brandon Lee not of Chinese culture because his mom's was white? Even tho like I said before. Racial culture is a whole different argument from Hip Hop culture.

 

[bnew]

Japan is a ethnicity and culture. Hip hop is black culture that others participate in. It's an action. And if u have the actions of someone who is intertwined with the culture. Paid ur dues. And participate. How are u not of it? That's like saying Slick Rick and Monie Love wasn't of the culture because they were from UK. Drake has a black American father. Explain how he's not of the culture? If a half white half Japanese person has a parent that lives in Japan. Spent every summer in Japan. Got in tune with Japanese customs etc etc and lived there for over half their life. Yes. They would be of that culture. Was Brandon Lee not of Chinese culture because his mom's was white? Even tho like I said before. Racial culture is a whole different argument from Hip Hop culture.

wasn't drakes black american father incarcerated for much of his young life? didn't he come back to discover his son had did blackface?

 

[spliz]

wasn't drakes black american father incarcerated for much of his young life? didn't he come back to discover his son had did blackface?

No. Apparently he couldn't enter Canada for legal issues but he wasn't locked up. Also.

 

[Jaguar93]

1.1M views

 

[bnew]

No. Apparently he couldn't enter Canada for legal issues but he wasn't locked up. Also.

according to this video he was incarcerated for only 3 years



he was allowed back into canada after 15 years,

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I’ve only watched about 30 minutes of the video and I can tell why you and the 7 other people that dapped your post feel this way. He was directly talking to yall and hit dogs are hollering And based on this thread being at 17 pages, I know yall Aubrey Angels and Owlettes have been punching the air on every single page.

FD argues like a bitter loser. Dudes critiques have no substance and he assumes things people who agree with him already think. He doesn’t define anything.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

FD argues like a bitter loser. Dudes critiques have no substance and he assumes things people who agree with him already think. He doesn’t define anything.

This was my second time watching one of his videos. I’m 2:15hr into the video during a workout and this is simply not true at all. If you’re a fan of hip hop/rap, you should enjoy this a lot. It’s very thorough, detailed, and every point is backed up by something tangible. Now if you’re one of those types of music fans where you’re a fan of the artist but not the genre itself (like sports fans who are player fans but don’t actually pay attention to teams), then you probably won’t like it. I don’t know how much of the video you watched, but just by your wording here, you’re a hit dog hollering like I mentioned beforehand. He struck you with points that you were offended by.

 

[Jigganaut]

This was my second time watching one of his videos. I’m 2:15hr into the video during a workout and this is simply not true at all. If you’re a fan of hip hop/rap, you should enjoy this a lot. It’s very thorough, detailed, and every point is backed up by something tangible. Now if you’re one of those types of music fans where you’re a fan of the artist but not the genre itself (like sports fans who are player fans but don’t actually pay attention to teams), then you probably won’t like it. I don’t know how much of the video you watched, but just by your wording here, you’re a hit dog hollering like I mentioned beforehand. He struck you with points that you were offended by.

I'm sure you're on the opposite end of that spectrum though correct?

 

[The Pledge]

That mother fukker Nap is this insufferable during a recap thread, imagine if he wasn’t banned during the actual battle

 

[Cat piss martini]

Dont know if drake is a homosexual
but he's a fakkit for sure.