Father's letter to gay son disowning him

[Fillerguy]

if the idea of semen puddling in the the intestines is disgusting, you my friend are a homophobe




edit: lol@ puddling

im afraid that not how it works. you keep creating these false dichotomies like you actually have a point. Personally male on male intimacy and female on female intimacy (most days) make me uncomfortable. 80 year olds who have sex, mayonnaise sandwich eaters, southern accents and Lebron stans make me uncomfortable too but Im no closer to discriminating against them than I am gays. The world wasnt made with my comfortable level in mind. Im against discriminating against a group of people if any Just laws were not violated.

 

[fscballin]

Personally male on male intimacy and female on female intimacy (most days) make me uncomfortable.

so its not wrong to be uncomfortable, its just wrong to vocalize your discomfort

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Vic I've seen you call other posters "fakkits" in the past, and you make fun of brazilian jujitsu for being "gay," so how can you then turn around and accuse people of homophobia? what's with all these threads about homosexuality lately?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Vic I've seen you call other posters "fakkits" in the past, and you make fun of brazilian jujitsu for being "gay," so how can you then turn around and accuse people of homophobia? what's with all these threads about homosexuality lately?

You are not properly schooled in the ways of the troll.

And I made two threads about homosexuality, lol. Where are you guys coming up with this from? I made a thread trolling Mowgli and this one. The Frank Ocean joint was from months ago and wasn't about homosexuality.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

It's not a matter of "supporting" the practice so much as minding your business. I find the thought pretty nasty too, but I just think that consenting adults should be able to do what they want as long as it doesn't infringe on anybody else's rights.

Personally I would rather not sit around worrying/thinking about what gay people do in graphic detail.

If you find homosexuality disgusting then you're a "homophobe" according to the majority of liberals/progressives. Do you embrace that label?

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

"you queens and your homosexual agenda"

"you're an in the closet gay, that must be why you hate gays so much"

"the sport you like makes you a secret gay"

"fakkits are devils lifestyle blah blah blah"


I think we can do better honestly. I know homosexuality is a hot button topic, but does literally every topic on this forum have to turn into a sad ass circle of people accusing each other of being gays or whatever because of their views? It's childish, to be honest, and i see it on both sides. Higher Learning should be above stupid 2 bit attempted character assassination and focus on argumentation. I realize that the rest of this forum has a posting style that encourages disrespect, but at least here you should be able to leave those things behind and talk out issues without resorting to insults and tactics that wouldn't have even flown in high school debates.

, thats just my 2 cents, im sure some fukkboy is going to call me a fakkit or something after this but I'm just saying this isnt how it should be.

 

[The Real]

If you find homosexuality disgusting then you're a "homophobe" according to the majority of liberals/progressives. Do you embrace that label?

Nah, this is a pure strawman. No one has ever said you have to start finding homosexual attraction or gay sex appealing in order to be anti-homophobia. That's a ridiculous notion. People who are wired, by DNA and environment, for heterosexuality are probably never going to enjoy or embrace the thought of homosexuality on a visceral or emotional level. The point is that you can also logically understand that your feelings do not merit irrational displays of hatred or fear (like not sitting next to someone who might be gay on public transportation, not being friends or disowning family with homosexuals, etc.) or curtailing the rights of people who are homosexual. Gay people feel just as disgusted by heterosexual sex.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

If you find homosexuality disgusting then you're a "homophobe" according to the majority of liberals/progressives. Do you embrace that label?

That's ridiculous. Perez Hilton isn't the majority of liberals/progressives.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Nah, this is a pure strawman. No one has ever said you have to start finding gay sex appealing in order to be anti-homophobia. That's a ridiculous notion. People who are wired, by DNA and environment, for heterosexuality are never going to enjoy or embrace the thought of homosexuality on a visceral or emotional level. The point is that you can also logically understand that your feelings do not merit curtailing the rights of people who are homosexual. Gay people feel just as disgusted by heterosexual sex.

Well that just goes to show that the whole idea behind labeling people "homophobes" for being disgusted by the homosexual lifestyle is complete bullshyt, and a tool used by the pro homosexual crowd to slander people for no good reason. We don't call those homosexuals who are disgusted by the straight lifestyle "heterophobes," na, cause they were just "born that way"

 

[GetInTheTruck]

That's ridiculous. Perez Hilton isn't the majority of liberals/progressives.

Go to a forum that is primarily liberal, like NeoGaf, and say that you find homosexuality to be "disgusting," even though you have no problems with homosexuals as individuals. See how many times you get called a homophobe before getting banned.

 

[The Real]

Well that just goes to show that the whole idea behind labeling people "homophobes" for being disgusted by the homosexual lifestyle is complete bullshyt, and a tool used by the pro homosexual crowd to slander people for no good reason. We don't call those homosexuals who are disgusted by the straight lifestyle "heterophobes," na, cause they were just "born that way"

Irrational disgust is homophobic, though. I'm never going to want to see men kissing or having sex with each other, but I recognize that as my own personal disaste, nothing more. That also doesn't mean seeing two men holding hands in the street fills me with disgust or automatically conjures up explicit images of gay sex (it doesn't, I'm indifferent to it) or that I'm not going to sit next to someone on the train because they might be gay, or that I'm going to reject friendship with someone because they might be gay. That is homophobia.

 

[acri1]

so its not wrong to be uncomfortable, its just wrong to vocalize your discomfort

Strawman. The issue isn't whether it makes you uncomfortable. The problem is when you want to limit consenting adults' rights just because something makes you uncomfortable.

If you find homosexuality disgusting then you're a "homophobe" according to the majority of liberals/progressives. Do you embrace that label?

Nah, this is a pure strawman. No one has ever said you have to start finding homosexual attraction or gay sex appealing in order to be anti-homophobia. That's a ridiculous notion. People who are wired, by DNA and environment, for heterosexuality are probably never going to enjoy or embrace the thought of homosexuality on a visceral or emotional level. The point is that you can also logically understand that your feelings do not merit irrational displays of hatred or fear (like not sitting next to someone who might be gay on public transportation, not being friends or disowning family with homosexuals, etc.) or curtailing the rights of people who are homosexual. Gay people feel just as disgusted by heterosexual sex.

What he said.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Well that just goes to show that the whole idea behind labeling people "homophobes" for being disgusted by the homosexual lifestyle is complete bullshyt, and a tool used by the pro homosexual crowd to slander people for no good reason. We don't call those homosexuals who are disgusted by the straight lifestyle "heterophobes," na, cause they were just "born that way"

That makes no sense at all. The issue at play is not peoples' personal taste and sense of revulsion or attraction to individual sex acts. It is whether or not people who have an orientation of being attracted to the same sex should be ostracized, demonized, and discriminated against.

If your entire summation of "the homosexual lifestyle" is simply the sex acts that they might perform, then you have a very narrow lens and fixated on sex in a pretty strange way. Is the entirety of your attraction and relationships with women limited to the sexual acts you do?

I wouldn't call anyone a homophobe for being disgusted by the thought or sight of two men having sex because I disgusted by that. But I have the wisdom to not say this person should be demonized or hated just because they happen to do something in their bedroom I find disgusting. Wise people can distinguish that.

If you're saying that it's bullshyt to say that anyone who finds two men fukking each disgusting is a homophobe, then I agree. But when you get into this "I don't accept the homosexual lifestyle, fukk these fakkits" stuff, that is ignorance, that is homophobia, and that is bigotry. It seems you can't separate the value of someone's humanity from what sex acts they perform.

 

[fscballin]

Strawman. The issue isn't whether it makes you uncomfortable. The problem is when you want to limit consenting adults' rights just because something makes you uncomfortable.





What he said.

if I do not consider it normal activity, why should I want to normalizing it in any way shape form or fashion?

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Go to a forum that is primarily liberal, like NeoGaf, and say that you find homosexuality to be "disgusting," even though you have no problems with homosexuals as individuals. See how many times you get called a homophobe before getting banned.

I post on NeoGAF frequently and to be honest, you deserve a banning on GAF for something like that. Most of the time when people are giving their aesthetic opinion on homosexuality in the types of topics there, they're either derailing the fukk out of an issues thread or plain trolling. I think gay sex is gross, but i wouldnt drop my opinion on it needlessly in say, the chick fil a thread because it serves no purpose to the topic.

Bannings on NeoGAF are all about context. Guys like Mclaren and JGS for example have posted anti-gay shyt on there for years and only copped bans for either intentionally derailing a thread or being snarky as fukk.

i bet someone got permed