Father Son Duo Kills Man over Trash Dispute - GRAPHIC

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Orange shirt threatened to kill them several times, instead of putting the battery in his back his wife should've talked him into going home.

You are allowed to argue and threat someone that is threatening you.

If I say "ima beat your ass" and you say "fukk you I'll beat your ass!" Then I proceed to beat the brakes off you, nobody is exonerated because of who made threats first or the fact that threats were exchanged .

Wow, be unarmed and make threats to armed men, brehs.

Have a wife that don't tell you to fall back, brehs.

Them pudgy fukks were cowards. You don't pull that thing out unless you intend to shoot. Brandishing is illegal. They had no intention to harm but like leaving a loaded pistol in a playpen around a curious toddler it was inevitable that the worst was going to happen .
Tell a duo with a pistol and a shotgun that they’re dead and you’re going to kill them while you stand 3ft in front of them unarmed brehs

Them dudes were p*ssy. Pulling out the tools just to talk. If someone draws on me and doesn't immediately fire ima call them out too. I won't stand around and argue for 5 mins cause believe if I'm now already strapped (which I usually am) I'm going to get it.

crazy thing is that the dude with the pistol let off warning shots and then the dude decided to try to throw a bat after that and got his head blown off
Warning shots are illegal in 50 states. Thats some made up movie shyt.
Not sure why everybody is saying they were itching to kill. They gave that man all the time in the world to go home even after he kept saying he's going to kill them.

Dumbass wife " You not going to shoot my husband". That type of stuff was pumping up the husband ego.
They definitely weren't itching but waiting around with the guns out something was bound to happen .Theses fools are going to be some sort of prohibited firearm parties. They violated a gank of rules for ccw and non ccw.

If someone doesn't shoot you immediately it's safe to assume you won't be shot, that being said don't stand around and argue for 5 more minutes.
Threaten someone who has a gun drawn on you brehs

It’s hard to feel bad for the guy, the two with the guns gave him plenty of time out. He pretty much just committed suicide. RIP though.
Orange shirt could've smelled the bytch in them. Pulling the tools out just to chat. They weren't about shyt.

They would've really been scared had he walked away and went in the house. They would've been sleeping in shifts on some :lupe: when is he coming back, shyt.
Your wife is supposed to talk you down from doing dumb shyt.:picard:

Also why the fukk are you threatening armed men? They gave him so many opportunities to walk away:mjlol:

Armed men aren't supposed to "give opportunities" . :mjlol: that's what's laughable .

A firearm isn't a bargaining tool, reasoning tool, tool of negotiation, a tool to intimidate or elicit fear, you pull it out to shoot and to kill, not injure.

All this pulling it out to talk and try to persuade and shyt is wrong . And it's not normal. So to everybody on the coli. Do not pull your guns out to talk to people and if someone pulls their gun on you, don't attempt to talk to them.

And stop watching movies. Understand Denzel has to deliver dialogue while there's a gun to his head to further the plot of the scene. He has to say something witty, cunning or smart. That is scripted, you will be killed .

Bring fist to a gun fight brehs. Threaten to kill killers without a weapon meant for killing brehs. I'm sorry shyt was damn near suicide.

If you pulled a gun out on your neighbor, the person who lives right next to you, who you know is crazy, are you going to not shoot and let him go in his house? Obviously he ain't gonna let this shyt go or forget about it, but you're going to let him walk away?

How you gon make death threats at two dudes thats strapped up and you not tooled up yourself?:gucci:

Well deserved L right there.

He earned his L. Once he realized they were just gonna stand their brandishing their guns he should've went and got his.

He threw the bat at the guys with the guns after the warning shots?


I still feel these rednecks took it too damn far I don't feel their life was necessarily threatened in that moment

Blowing someone's head off is a last resort you got no choice action cuz he pulled a gun or a knife on you

at least shoot at the leg if someone is coming at you with a bat

And once you got a dude with a shotgun and a handgun and you only have a batmammoths time to take it down a few notches go home and call the police over the dispute ...even if he had a gun himself...2 guns vs 1

Warning shots are illegal. They are from movies. They really serve no purpose in real life.

Their lives were not in danger at any point. The fact that they had their guns drawn and they didn't immediately shoot shows that.

Claiming their life was in danger would be like you claiming your child's life is in danger of they fell in a lake or pool and you decide to take your shirt, pants, shoes and socks off before jumping in to rescue them.

It wasn't even pump faking

Everyone knew what the situation was... and he proceeded to escalate anyway

Let this be a lesson to you nikkas who won't let "disrespect" slide

They was pumping hard. Pulling it out just to talk. I really believe they would've let orange shirt go home too on some " :smugfavre: we showed him" then their family would've been crying on the news when he inevitably came back.

They should've never let their guns be seen until the point of firing. They are both in for charges.

I haven’t been in a fight or confrontation since high school. This guy was off his meds so there’s an exception but as a grown man/woman, you should be able to diffuse the situation.

His wife knew he was unstable so she should’ve diffused it, unless she’s just as crazy too (so it seems).

When there is a firearm involved there is no situation to diffuse. It's the last line of defense and last resort .you don't pull it out to talk, persuade, intimidate, negotiate .you pull it out to get rid of an immediate threat .The fact that they stood around trading insults and threats shows there was no immediate threat.
Goddamn they lit him the fukk up.

What was this muthafukka thinking talking all that big shyt???:ohhh:

He was thinking they were p*ssy for brandishing their weapons. Dads feet didnt move an inch the whole video, that's how you know he was scared..

HE SPECIFICALLY SAID: "I am going to DISARM YOU and put a bullet directly through his skull!"
He's HUGE and YOUNGER THAN THE OLD MAN!
What part of this makes his "not in danger" This is 100% SELF-DEFENSE! :mindblown:




Put the guns down WHERE? AARON already said he was going to take the gun and put a bullet through both of their heads. He looked faster than them BOTH! All he had to do was NOT ATTACK. :ld:

You're allowed to insult or threaten people when the situation has already escalated past the point of threats .

Threats weren't the cause of the situation and the situation escalated well past the point of what he said she matters.

If his life was in danger he would've pulled out and shot. The fact that they chose to stand around and argue while armed is exactly why they weren't in danger. In all states where ccw is licensed they just violated.

This is what happens when people get too comfortable around guns, neither the husband or wife had enough sense to realize how much danger they were actually in. They actually thought it was a game or something

Orange shirt was stupid. He was strung along but he was stupid. When the guns came out his initial reaction should've been :whoa: after 15 seconds (which would've seemed like 5-10 minutes with guns pointed on him) he should've realized they were flexing and he wasn't going to get shot then called them pussies and went into the house and called 911 or came back with his own gun.

He was wild dumb for just standing their shouting.
Die over crusty box springs brehs:francis:

Whole shyt could've been avoided if breh would've just walked away. He thought they was p*ssy and it backfired.......literally
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They were p*ssy. If your life is indeed in danger and you save your life that doesn't make you p*ssy. If you stand around with your gun out toward someone you know would beat your ass and argue to the point where you close your eyes and fire...yeah you're p*ssy.

They are all p*ssy because one of them knew when to call it quits and they all were too stupid to walk away.

It's like a fight at school when everyone is crowded around but the two kids in the middle don't really want to fight but they do it anyway. Just worthless all around.
Why the fukk would you tell somebody with a gun that you're gonna kill them? He's basically dead because of his ego. Couldn't let it go and back down.

You have to shoot me in the back because of you pull it on me and give me any chance to either pull my gun out from my pants or go get one you're dead.


Just about everybody in that scenario is stupid, but what the fukk is wrong with the dead breh?! CONTINUOUSLY sending death threats to two dudes with guns constantly telling you what's gonna happen if you escalate?! Like WTF. And his wife ain't even tell him to fall back:what:

Think you're invincible crehs

How stupid are they? Realistically, you gonna let someone walk away or have the chance to come back blasting? This ain't some random fool, they can look out the windows and see each other looking back. That shyt don't make sense .

Now if their sole intention was murdering him they would have immediately ran up and shot him. That was clearly not their intent. No way this is murder.

The fact that Dead Aaron proclaimed that HE WOULD KILL THEM over and over, should pretty much seal this case. The video is the icing.

Youre right and wrong .

If they would have just ran up on him and shot .Yes murder.

If they would've remained concealed until their life was in danger then I pulled out and shot, that is self defense.

Waiting around brandishing a gun and losing an argument before you decide to shoot someone will send you straight to jail.

By the way you can make threats to someone who has pulled a gun or knife on you. Especially when you are just standing around arguing.

You can claim self defense against a threat unless the threat is imminent. Keyword imminent .
Also, you're disregarding the warnings "come within 3 feet of me and I'll kill you", warning shots, and the fact that dude with the bat swung first. All that shyt counts.

It doesn't count. It's illegal and will get your rights to own or carry firearms away. Stop watching movies. Learn about your local gun legislation.

If I'm the fat white boy:
"This is a man who threatened to disarm my father and shoot him in the head with his own gun. This man is obviously physically out-tooling me or my dad. I used the equalizer in order to make sure that in the case that my dad missed his target, that we would not both be in danger."

What part of this do the Dead Aaron defenders NOT UNDERSTAND? :dwillhuh:

You don't understand gun legislation. It's not self defense if you stand around arguing.

If the threat of danger is not imminent you have no claim to self defense.

It's not the dead man's opportunity to walk away, it's the gun owners responsibility to walk away. If you have the ability or opportunity to walk away then you don't need to resort to the use of a firearm .A firearm is a last resort.

The father wasn’t threatened, he shot into the air

Exactly. There was no imminent threat.
They weren’t the ones talking tough breh
They weren't talking, they were brandishing. No matter how you slice it, then to fools have lost their ability to own or carry firearms.
i mean, the guy gave him plenty of chances to walk away. He wasn't gonna shoot unless he was physically provoked
As the gun owner he doesn't give opportunities.
Like I've stated multiple times. A firearm isn't a bargaining tool, a tool of negotiation, intimidation, persuasion, etc. You pull it out to shoot and stop an active threat (something happening right now) or stop an imminent threat (someone walking towards you with a knife).

The fact that these dummies stood around arguing, and talking about what they will or won't do can and can't do and what he should and shouldn't do shows their life wasn't in danger and violate various ordinances of ccw nationally.

Here's shy that matters. If my Missouri ccw is reciprocated in Texas, and Texas decides "Well we feel they did nothing wrong" but Missouri insists that they violated, Missouri can decide not to reciprocate with Texas meaning if you have ccw in Texas and are carrying in MO you are illegally carrying and if you have ccw from MO and are carrying in Texas you will be carrying illegally .

Not all states reciprocate. Meaning have one doesn't mean your cool everywhere.

As a gun owner you have to protect your rights and understand them otherwise shooting the guy who stole your car radio from your driveway may have prevented your radio from being stolen but now you don't get to own guns, so whatll protect you next time?
 
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you're reading some of that out of context. i'm not arguing if brandishing is illegal or not, i'm arguing a clear attempt at deescalation by one party versus the other in relation to the point of "intent to murder". right after that I said you could debate the quality or authenticity of those attempts, but you can't deny they occurred. a warning shot's intent and legality are two different things as well. @nikkahs B. Wildin

Texas open carry doesn't apply to shotguns so yeah, the kid is screwed their in regards to that.

and a guy with a bat shouting he wants to kill you is a threat in all 50 states :dead: cmon breh

losing your guns is whatever tbh.... they exist for a specific moment and if they do their job in that moment, then they were worth it. if you're living a life where you gotta clutch your guns that often then you gotta more problems than maintaining a permit.
 

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They was pumping hard. Pulling it out just to talk. I really believe they would've let orange shirt go home too on some " :smugfavre: we showed him" then their family would've been crying on the news when he inevitably came back.

They should've never let their guns be seen until the point of firing. They are both in for charges.
What difference did it make? In the end they were victorious

Their REAL best course of action would have been to turn around and go the fukk home. When you have this long of a non-violent confrontation before a shooting, a LOT of bad decisions had to have been made
 

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You are allowed to argue and threat someone that is threatening you.

If I say "ima beat your ass" and you say "fukk you I'll beat your ass!" Then I proceed to beat the brakes off you, nobody is exonerated because of who made threats first or the fact that threats were exchanged .



Them pudgy fukks were cowards. You don't pull that thing out unless you intend to shoot. Brandishing is illegal. They had no intention to harm but like leaving a loaded pistol in a playpen around a curious toddler it was inevitable that the worst was going to happen .


Them dudes were p*ssy. Pulling out the tools just to talk. If someone draws on me and doesn't immediately fire ima call them out too. I won't stand around and argue for 5 mins cause believe if I'm now already strapped (which I usually am) I'm going to get it.


Warning shots are illegal in 50 states. Thats some made up movie shyt.

They definitely weren't itching but waiting around with the guns out something was bound to happen .Theses fools are going to be some sort of prohibited firearm parties. They violated a gank of rules for ccw and non ccw.

If someone doesn't shoot you immediately it's safe to assume you won't be shot, that being said don't stand around and argue for 5 more minutes.

Orange shirt could've smelled the bytch in them. Pulling the tools out just to chat. They weren't about shyt.

They would've really been scared had he walked away and went in the house. They would've been sleeping in shifts on some :lupe: when is he coming back, shyt.


Armed men aren't supposed to "give opportunities" . :mjlol: that's what's laughable .

A firearm isn't a bargaining tool, reasoning tool, tool of negotiation, a tool to intimidate or elicit fear, you pull it out to shoot and to kill, not injure.

All this pulling it out to talk and try to persuade and shyt is wrong . And it's not normal. So to everybody on the coli. Do not pull your guns out to talk to people and if someone pulls their gun on you, don't attempt to talk to them.

And stop watching movies. Understand Denzel has to deliver dialogue while there's a gun to his head to further the plot of the scene. He has to say something witty, cunning or smart. That is scripted, you will be killed .



If you pulled a gun out on your neighbor, the person who lives right next to you, who you know is crazy, are you going to not shoot and let him go in his house? Obviously he ain't gonna let this shyt go or forget about it, but you're going to let him walk away?



He earned his L. Once he realized they were just gonna stand their brandishing their guns he should've went and got his.



Warning shots are illegal. They are from movies. They really serve no purpose in real life.

Their lives were not in danger at any point. The fact that they had their guns drawn and they didn't immediately shoot shows that.

Claiming their life was in danger would be like you claiming your child's life is in danger of they fell in a lake or pool and you decide to take your shirt, pants, shoes and socks off before jumping in to rescue them.



They was pumping hard. Pulling it out just to talk. I really believe they would've let orange shirt go home too on some " :smugfavre: we showed him" then their family would've been crying on the news when he inevitably came back.

They should've never let their guns be seen until the point of firing. They are both in for charges.



When there is a firearm involved there is no situation to diffuse. It's the last line of defense and last resort .you don't pull it out to talk, persuade, intimidate, negotiate .you pull it out to get rid of an immediate threat .The fact that they stood around trading insults and threats shows there was no immediate threat.


He was thinking they were p*ssy for brandishing their weapons. Dads feet didnt move an inch the whole video, that's how you know he was scared..



You're allowed to insult or threaten people when the situation has already escalated past the point of threats .

Threats weren't the cause of the situation and the situation escalated well past the point of what he said she matters.

If his life was in danger he would've pulled out and shot. The fact that they chose to stand around and argue while armed is exactly why they weren't in danger. In all states where ccw is licensed they just violated.



Orange shirt was stupid. He was strung along but he was stupid. When the guns came out his initial reaction should've been :whoa: after 15 seconds (which would've seemed like 5-10 minutes with guns pointed on him) he should've realized they were flexing and he wasn't going to get shot then called them pussies and went into the house and called 911 or came back with his own gun.

He was wild dumb for just standing their shouting.


They were p*ssy. If your life is indeed in danger and you save your life that doesn't make you p*ssy. If you stand around with your gun out toward someone you know would beat your ass and argue to the point where you close your eyes and fire...yeah you're p*ssy.

They are all p*ssy because one of them knew when to call it quits and they all were too stupid to walk away.

It's like a fight at school when everyone is crowded around but the two kids in the middle don't really want to fight but they do it anyway. Just worthless all around.


You have to shoot me in the back because of you pull it on me and give me any chance to either pull my gun out from my pants or go get one you're dead.




How stupid are they? Realistically, you gonna let someone walk away or have the chance to come back blasting? This ain't some random fool, they can look out the windows and see each other looking back. That shyt don't make sense .



Youre right and wrong .

If they would have just ran up on him and shot .Yes murder.

If they would've remained concealed until their life was in danger then I pulled out and shot, that is self defense.

Waiting around brandishing a gun and losing an argument before you decide to shoot someone will send you straight to jail.

By the way you can make threats to someone who has pulled a gun or knife on you. Especially when you are just standing around arguing.

You can claim self defense against a threat unless the threat is imminent. Keyword imminent .


It doesn't count. It's illegal and will get your rights to own or carry firearms away. Stop watching movies. Learn about your local gun legislation.



You don't understand gun legislation. It's not self defense if you stand around arguing.

If the threat of danger is not imminent you have no claim to self defense.

It's not the dead man's opportunity to walk away, it's the gun owners responsibility to walk away. If you have the ability or opportunity to walk away then you don't need to resort to the use of a firearm .A firearm is a last resort.



Exactly. There was no imminent threat.

They weren't talking, they were brandishing. No matter how you slice it, then to fools have lost their ability to own or carry firearms.

As the gun owner he doesn't give opportunities.
Like I've stated multiple times. A firearm isn't a bargaining tool, a tool of negotiation, intimidation, persuasion, etc. You pull it out to shoot and stop an active threat (something happening right now) or stop an imminent threat (someone walking towards you with a knife).

The fact that these dummies stood around arguing, and talking about what they will or won't do can and can't do and what he should and shouldn't do shows their life wasn't in danger and violate various ordinances of ccw nationally.

Here's shy that matters. If my Missouri ccw is reciprocated in Texas, and Texas decides "Well we feel they did nothing wrong" but Missouri insists that they violated, Missouri can decide not to reciprocate with Texas meaning if you have ccw in Texas and are carrying in MO you are illegally carrying and if you have ccw from MO and are carrying in Texas you will be carrying illegally .

Not all states reciprocate. Meaning have one doesn't mean your cool everywhere.

As a gun owner you have to protect your rights and understand them otherwise shooting the guy who stole your car radio from your driveway may have prevented your radio from being stolen but now you don't get to own guns, so whatll protect you next time?

:francis: Not sure why I was quoted in this long one but if I see guns and I'm lackin', I'm out. I don't care if the dudes totin' are cowards or the gung-ho guns. I'm out.
 

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you're reading some of that out of context. i'm not arguing if brandishing is illegal or not, i'm arguing a clear attempt at deescalation by one party versus the other in relation to the point of "intent to murder". right after that I said you could debate the quality or authenticity of those attempts, but you can't deny they occurred. a warning shot's intent and legality are two different things as well. @nikkahs B. Wildin

Texas open carry doesn't apply to shotguns so yeah, the kid is screwed their in regards to that.

and a guy with a bat shouting he wants to kill you is a threat in all 50 states :dead: cmon breh

losing your guns is whatever tbh.... they exist for a specific moment and if they do their job in that moment, then they were worth it. if you're living a life where you gotta clutch your guns that often then you gotta more problems than maintaining a permit.


Losing your guns isn't whatever it's rhetoric like this why they don't want black to have guns and why gun owners and rights in general are threatened.

Secondly what is the intent of a warning shot? How do you properly execute a warning shot. Explain to me a safe and rational time to use a warning shot? Bullets have to go somewhere so tell me, do you shoot straight up in the air? Point the gun up and away from you? Do you shoot the ground?

A gun is not a de-escalation tool. It's a last line of defense .You pull it out to cease an imminent threat by destroying a target. :yeshrug: you can argue against legislation but this is how it's written .
 

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What difference did it make? In the end they were victorious

Their REAL best course of action would have been to turn around and go the fukk home. When you have this long of a non-violent confrontation before a shooting, a LOT of bad decisions had to have been made

Victorious my ass they are going to jail. That ain't a victory. I wouldn't advocate for any coli member to think like that. While your in jail someone may come shoot up your cribs killin your baby mom's or whoever else is up in there.
 

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:francis: Not sure why I was quoted in this long one but if I see guns and I'm lackin', I'm out. I don't care if the dudes totin' are cowards or the gung-ho guns. I'm out.


You would be blessed and smart to do so.

The way theses fools talk around here you should expect someone to pull a burner out on you then have a discussion.

Thats not real life.

If someone pulls out on you and they don't shoot immediately, count your blessing and exit the situation.

Most importantly don't try to be some Dumb ass who pulls a gun out on some one just to talk!!!!!

nikkas really be watching TV seeing someone pull a gun on somewhere else and say "get the fukk outta here!" Then that person runs away scared never to be seen again in the show or movie. That will get you killed or arrested.
 
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