Fat Joe Says “From The Birthplace To Its Inception, He Is Hip Hop”

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Huge difference between some black people not liking it because it was new and different and majority of Hispanics not liking it because they hated black people and culture.

No it's not a huge difference. You aren't telling the whole story when you bring up how PRs despised Hip Hop in the beginning but leave out that there were Black Americans who despised it too . You made it about ethnicity when Cholly Rock is pointing out that there are Black people taking credit for something they despised in the beginning just like what u are doing with PRs. So if you are going to say it about PRs you also have to say it about Black Americans because Cholly Rock has an issue with just giving it to Black Americans as a whole as if there wasn't any who despised it in the beginning too.
 

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Your statement that they "added to it later on" is stupid.

Eminem also added to Hip hop later on, does that mean we should give credit to cacs?

thats not what he is saying. Eminem didnt add to anything, he became a participant. Nothing Eminem did hadnt been done already conceptually, he just took pieces of G Rap, AZ, Masta Ace, Redman, etc...and Outsidaz put him D early. Puerto Ricans actually contributed to the culture, the just didnt create it. We want to give Ricans their proper respect just in the correct context. I dont feel as the mass on Ricans feel Joe speaks for them.
 

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The minority of Puerto Rican kids that devoted their life to Hip Hop were fully Americanized and grew up with these black kids from the sandbox and were ostracized from the older gen of PR because they looked at it these kids abandoning their rich culture. You also gotta understand that salsa in the 70s was big fukking time in the city among anyone who spoke Spanish.
And this is the issue with your logic.

You're trying to give credit for the creation of hip hop to an entire ethnicity when you're admitting that it was just a handful of Puerto Ricans sneaking off to black parties against their people's wishes.

It's crazy how people like fat Joe can pretend like hip hop was some collaborative effort when he probably wasn't even allowed to have black friends at the time.
 

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thats not what he is saying. Eminem didnt add to anything, he became a participant. Nothing Eminem did hadnt been done already conceptually, he just took pieces of G Rap, AZ, Masta Ace, Redman, etc...and Outsidaz put him D early. Puerto Ricans actually contributed to the culture, the just didnt create it. We want to give Ricans their proper respect just in the correct context. I dont feel as the mass on Ricans feel Joe speaks for them.
Just like Puerto Ricans became participants.
 

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And this is the issue with your logic.

You're trying to give credit for the creation of hip hop to an entire ethnicity when you're admitting that it was just a handful of Puerto Ricans sneaking off to black parties against their people's wishes.

It's crazy how people like fat Joe can pretend like hip hop was some collaborative effort when he probably wasn't even allowed to have black friends at the time.
Breh stfu. When did I give its a creation to a whole ethnicity?
 

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Em is a popular rapper who used a format that was already in place. Dr Dre is a pioneer, Em is not. by that logic, Canadians created hip hop thanks to Drake
Just like Puerto Ricans used a platform that was already in place, but they want 50 percent of the credit for its creation.

fukk outta here.
 

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I give them more credit than that. they were early adopters. I am not shytting on Ricans.
I am shytting on Ricans, they deserve zero credit. Respect the handful of individuals that were there early, but Puerto Ricans in general get zero credit.
 

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These idiots think Hip Hop was this very popular thing that everyone participated in at the very start. Hip Hop was a very niche and rebellious thing to be apart of back then. The older black gen was not fukking with that shyt at all for a very long time. It was literally noise to them. And they lack context. There was many different musically and culture movements going on in the city at the very same time. That’s why it was a very interesting time in the city during that era. The minority of Puerto Rican kids that devoted their life to Hip Hop were fully Americanized and grew up with these black kids from the sandbox and were ostracized from the older gen of PR because they looked at it these kids abandoning their rich culture. You also gotta understand that salsa in the 70s was big fukking time in the city among anyone who spoke Spanish.


Exactly. You can tell who doesn't know the actual history by the one sided skewed narratives they paint.
 

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Just like Puerto Ricans used a platform that was already in place, but they want 50 percent of the credit for its creation.

fukk outta here.

I think they did add to it and have some contributions. I dont understand what Em added, you would have to elaborate
 
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