Fast-food workers walkout to protest low wages

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Huffington Post article is making "presumptions". The minimum wage increases haven't been as monumental as a jump to $15. But if you have noticed, increases in minimum wage has resulted in increases in a cost of a meal and menu items at all the fast food restaurants.
McDonald's restaurants are franchises. The corporation makes money on franchise fees and property rental. The McDonald's corporation franchise fee is the same whether or not minimum wage is higher. It affects the bottom line for the franchise owner. The franchise owner has to pay the higher minimum wage, not the corporation. If you've ever been to a McDonald's in Manhattan, all the prices for everything is higher. It's allowed though. Those franchise owner have higher expenses than a McDonald's in Montana.
So if minimum wage is increased, it's the franchise owner who has to eat it if the prices stay the same according to nationally set prices by the corporation. Franchise owners are not allowed to set their own prices. There are marketing people who set the national prices accordingly to be competitive against Burger King and Wendy's. The way franchise owners would maintain profitability is to increase food prices. Which as I've stated earlier, has occurred with previous minimum wage increases.

The Huff Po piece isnt making presumptions....its defeating the right wing apocalyptic nonsense that increasing worker wages and benefits to livable figures, will somehow trigger 20 dollar big macs, businesses closing left and right, and all this other crazy sht that has no basis in economic reality, just for franchises to stay afloat. Im not sure what your argument is here. If absorbing the wage increase means such a negligible price hike for a couple of Mcdonalds food items, then why does corporate not do that?

Again, this is class warfare you're expressing (they dont deserve it because I say so!), and Ill repeat --- for someone so concerned with the health of the economy and small businesses, I cant for the life of me understand why you would not want the public to have more discretionary income to spend on dining out, entertainment, ext so that these businesses can respond to the demand by expanding, which further fuels and grows economy.

Talking about biting your own nose off to spite your face. Oh well, at least 1% owns about half the wealth of this country. Thats whats really important, and what we must fight for with every ounce of our being.
 

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:heh: so because you work at Micky D's you shouldn't be able to feed yourselves and put a roof over your head?


I look forward to seeing your families thrown off of roofs in the future
shyt is ridiculous. I genuinely think people love believing they're better than someone else based on their own occupation or achievements. Minimum wage workers are still human beings and deserve to be able to feed, house and cloth themselves. It blows my mind that you can work 40 hours a week and not even be able to live off that. And please, lets not even bring CEO to worker wage ratios up.
 

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And please, lets not even bring CEO to worker wage ratios up.

It's not the CEO of McDonalds who's determining individual franchises pay structure. Just like CVS, just like the mechanic at an Exxon station....its determined by the person who owns the business.
 

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once again, the capitalists of the coli are exposed as the pieces of shyt that they truly are. capitalism is slavery (and feudalism)

No dude. Just no. You sound like an idiot. The only social responsibility Mcdonald's has is to increase its profits. The higher Mcdonald's profits are, the more efficiently they are providing people with their service. Mcdonalds is a company with a black electrical engineer as its ceo. :salute:To Don Thompson. If these workers want to make what he makes they can do what he did. Government is too ineffective to possibly implement some bullshyt zero growth fantasy.

No one in this world owes anyone else shyt. At the end of the day social contracts are the only thing between us and a constant state of war.

Do you guys realize 17 cents on the dollar is a lot of money in terms of a percentage of revenue? If I was Mcdonalds anyone that strikes is fired.

The computer you typed that from, the clothes on your back, and everything else good in your life came from someone else's self interest. There are billions of people in this world that would kill to work in a mcdonalds kitchen for half of the wage-floored $7.25 rate. Mcdonalds aint a career.
 

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It's not the CEO of McDonalds who's determining individual franchises pay structure. Just like CVS, just like the mechanic at an Exxon station....its determined by the person who owns the business.


The company could easily set the pay rates for the franchises. Hell, if your store isn't up to spec or kitchen isn't up to spec they can tell you to tear it down and or replace things at your own expense.


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keep swinging for companies, and you'll wind up swinging from lamp poles when the revolution comes
 

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If the company could easily set the pay rates for the franchises. Hell if your store isn't up to spec or kitchen isn't up to spec they can tell you to tear it down and or replace things at your own expense.


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keep swinging for companies, and you'll wind up swinging from lamp poles when the revolution comes

So you'd prefer to eliminate the frachisee, and have fast food operated via corporate?

Should a McDonalds cashier in NY be paid more than one in Florida? Why?
 

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The Huff Po piece isnt making presumptions....its defeating the right wing apocalyptic nonsense that increasing worker wages and benefits to livable figures, will somehow trigger 20 dollar big macs, businesses closing left and right, and all this other crazy sht that has no basis in economic reality, just for franchises to stay afloat. Im not sure what your argument is here. If absorbing the wage increase means such a negligible price hike for a couple of Mcdonalds food items, then why does corporate not do that?
The franchise owner absorbs it, not the big wigs at corporate. You can't differentiate that, maybe because you don't understand that business model.

[quote="No_bammer_weed]Again, this is class warfare you're expressing (they dont deserve it because I say so!), and Ill repeat --- for someone so concerned with the health of the economy and small businesses, I cant for the life of me understand why you would not want the public to have more discretionary income to spend on dining out, entertainment, ext so that these businesses can respond to the demand by expanding, which further fuels and grows economy.[/quote]
They don't deserve it? Yeah, for the most part. It depends. I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth. I've been laid off multiple times. I've had to apply for unemployment insurance until I got another job. I didn't coast it. So, when I say I work and studied for a higher standard of living, I don't expect a sluggard who does nothing to improve his skills or knowledge and expect to get paid as much as me. That type of person can go to communist country where you get paid the same regardless of your experience or knowledge.

[quote="No_bammer_weed]Talking about biting your own nose off to spite your face. Oh well, at least 1% owns about half the wealth of this country. Thats whats really important, and what we must fight for with every ounce of our being.[/quote]
So Jay-Z, P-Diddy, and Michael Jordan have taken advantage of the masses by selling their product for a profit which has, through the years, amassed into a huge personal fortune? No, they used their business acumen to grow their wealth. Not everyone who has money knows what to do with it. Communism is not the way.
 

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The computer you typed that from, the clothes on your back, and everything else good in your life came from someone else's self interest. There are billions of people in this world that would kill to work in a mcdonalds kitchen for half of the wage-floored $7.25 rate. Mcdonalds aint a career.

We aren't talking about everyone else in the world and what they would like and want, we're talking about Merica. lol at your nonsense.
The country(taxpayers) end up carrying the burden of these companies poor practices then the finger gets pointed else where.
Lets address the actual problem.
 

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So you'd prefer to eliminate the frachisee, and have fast food operated via corporate?

Should a McDonalds cashier in NY be paid more than one in Florida? Why?

Franchises have rules set by corporate, that's the way it is. Did I loose you somehow?

I don't think the guy in Nebraska needs to be paid as much as the guy in NYC but you could make an argument for it.
If the guy in Nebraska maid as much as the guy in NY he would be less of a burden on the state.
A lot of people want it both ways in America. ie pay him nothing wait wait wait!!! why does he get food stamps and hud etc etc!!!? Government is bad!
 

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We aren't talking about everyone else in the world and what they would like and want, we're talking about Merica. lol at your nonsense.
The country(taxpayers) end up carrying the burden of these companies poor practices then the finger gets pointed else where.
Lets address the actual problem.


The actual problem is our government is not for the people. Every problem with corporations is a problem with government. These corporations are government created legal entities.

The actual problem is Americans hate each other so much that they never do anything cooperatively, at best 51 percent of us bully the other 49 percent at any given time.

The actual problem is that none of the values associated with private land ownership really apply now that were not in the age of '40 acres and a mule'.

The actual problem is that people are too stupid to use the political process for what it is there for, they would rather use it to wage war on each other.

The actual problem is that these fast food workers could be working on taking our infrastructure to the next level, high speed rail, internet, more education , more sustainable energy solutions.

If were talking about america, then no one owes you shyt. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness baby. (Slavery reparations are an exception to this, but thats neither here nor there).
 

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Franchises have rules set by corporate, that's the way it is. Did I loose you somehow?

I don't think the guy in Nebraska needs to be paid as much as the guy in NYC but you could make an argument for it.
If the guy in Nebraska maid as much as the guy in NY he would be less of a burden on the state.
A lot of people want it both ways in America. ie pay him nothing wait wait wait!!! why does he get food stamps and hud etc etc!!!? Government is bad!

Corporate doesn't dictate wages for McDonalds-its determined by the guy who took the risk on of opening up or purchasing the business(god forbid, I know) The rules set by corporate are the products they can sell and at what time they can sell it. Like when McDonalds seasonly introduces a new sandwich the franchisee is notified by corporate that its coming down the pike and you have to carry it in the restaurant.

If the independent business owner doesnt have the ability to determine his pay structure- there's absolutely zero reason to take on the risk of buying a franchise.

As far as the food stamps- if these folks werent working at Mcdonalds they'd more than likely be receiving even more gvt assistance.
 

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Corporate doesn't dictate wages for McDonalds-its determined by the guy who took the risk on of opening up or purchasing the business(god forbid, I know) The rules set by corporate are the products they can sell and at what time they can sell it. Like when McDonalds seasonly introduces a new sandwich the franchisee is notified by corporate that its coming down the pike and you have to carry it in the restaurant.

If the independent business owner doesnt have the ability to determine his pay structure- there's absolutely zero reason to take on the risk of buying a franchise.

They could, that's my point. There are tons of rules and standards set, don't be coy.

that last sentence :heh:
 

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The actual problem is our government is not for the people. Every problem with corporations is a problem with government. These corporations are government created legal entities.

The actual problem is Americans hate each other so much that they never do anything cooperatively, at best 51 percent of us bully the other 49 percent at any given time.

The actual problem is that none of the values associated with private land ownership really apply now that were not in the age of '40 acres and a mule'.

The actual problem is that people are too stupid to use the political process for what it is there for, they would rather use it to wage war on each other.

The actual problem is that these fast food workers could be working on taking our infrastructure to the next level, high speed rail, internet, more education , more sustainable energy solutions.

If were talking about america, then no one owes you shyt. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness baby. (Slavery reparations are an exception to this, but thats neither here nor there).

thanks for playing
 
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