Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald

[Spin]

I guess my problem is what you're saying is that people can't voice their opinion. Like basically any time people now have an opinion about art, literature, music, if it doesn't make the artist feel good, they have to "stop whining". I'm voicing my opinion. Whether you or JKR thinks it "worthy of consideration" really doesn't mean much to me. I'm on a Internet forum. I had a problem with the way race was handled in the movie. I don't expect Warner Bros or JKR to change anything because of what I said on the Coli. But I'm expressing my opinion on why I think race was handled poorly here and I might not pay money for another JRK film as a result.

And I'm sorry as much lip service JKR gives to diversity and social justice, she brings that critique on herself. You can't talk all that woke shyt on Twitter every day and then not be judged by the same shyt you criticize everyone else for. It don't work like that. She claims to be woke and for diversity, but she only uses it as a plot device and falls into tired tropes, and I'm glad she's getting ripped for it because you should act like you know something when you don't.

Jason Blum pointed this out with his own production Get Out. It made him see his bias as a liberal when he initially thought he was trying to help in the past. His solution is let the black film makers make the movies themselves (Get Out, BlacKkKlansman). He funds them not for diversity reasons, but because they make money.

I don't know the backstory on the original characters, but if JKR originally wrote the characters one way and wants to change them up for "diversity" reasons then she shouldn't half ass it. It's lazy and gives credibility that people in Hollywood just give lip service to diversity. All they have to do is consult with someone outside of their circle before they make such choices.

I enjoy the wizard/fantasy films and thought this was ok. It had its moments but felt like there was no urgency in the plot.

 

[23Barrettcity]

Saw it liked it enjoyed the ending . Wasn’t as much Dumbledore as I was expecting

 

[Sad Bunny]

I like the special effects and seeing the new magical creatures, but the plot was pretty trash.

Zoe Kravitz is fukking beautiful.

 

[Kooley_High]

Good movie, but more focused on build up

 

[Deltron]

thought it was good overall but a little too fanservicey with the name drops, locations, etc. Thought the whole Nagini thing was , knowing how she'll end up...but I guess I'll enjoy her being a good guy

and seeing a young ass Dumbledore

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and another Hogwarts alum

is weird.

I hope to god Credence

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ain't a Dumbledore...

I hate that trope.

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would rather have G lie to Creed to get him to join

Zoe Kravitz

 

[YaThreadTrashB!]

This was a mess! Information dumps all over the place. And a lot of it didn't make sense and fukked up what the HP books established. Also character development was destroyed. Especially one character in particular, whose actions made no damn sense. There were moments where you could see the kind of movie it could have been, but overall, this was the worst entry in the entire wizarding world franchise. I might not see the next one. J.K. Rowling fukking up her legacy. She better think hard before moving forward.

I'd give this a 3 1/2. The only great thing I can say is there was a lot of black folks. I just wish we had a better wizarding film to shine in.

What was the problem with the information?


JK Rowling approves of all the information that gets put out there

 

[Sensitive Christian Grey]

Too many threads to consider it ok, I found it mediocre.

Liked the art direction but action was unfulfilling since the plot was disjointed because of all the characters

Zoe Kravitz...man I can't help but feel like this girl just can't act

Depp and Law were good. Also younger Newt was spot on with his mannerisms that I hated him just as much

 

[Makavalli]

My kids love harry potter but i was sitting there like wtf. Visuals were cool but the dialogue and history i guess went over my head

 

[Electric Ladyland]

movie was all over the place. it was alright 6/10

the first one was great

 

[Deltron]

My kids love harry potter but i was sitting there like wtf. Visuals were cool but the dialogue and history i guess went over my head

as a vet of the series, they making some shyt up on the fly that goes against some of the shyt they established in the books/pottermore.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I did not like this. I still love the world and even like the characters but this movie was trying to do way too much without the time it needed to do it. It wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a 6 hr cut of this in a Warner bros basement. While I liked the themes it tried to throw in and the echoes to our present day politics, it just never really came together as a cohesive narrative.

Storylines happened and then didn’t happen, characters did things just to move the story along even if it made no sense based on the prior movie (Queenie), and the most interesting character sacrificed themself for no real reason.

There’s a lot of telling and not showing in this movie. We hear of how great Grindelwalds talking skills are and his powers of persuasion, but don’t really get to see them in action. And Johnny was just ok.

The stuff at Hogwarts seemed there just to remind us of Hogwarts.

And then there’s Newt. He’s way too passive and reactive as a character. It’s hard to root for a guy who just lets things happen rather than actively making choices. Yes inaction is a choice but it’s not the right choice for the lead of a story.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I guess my problem is what you're saying is that people can't voice their opinion. Like basically any time people now have an opinion about art, literature, music, if it doesn't make the artist feel good, they have to "stop whining". I'm voicing my opinion. Whether you or JKR thinks it "worthy of consideration" really doesn't mean much to me. I'm on a Internet forum. I had a problem with the way race was handled in the movie. I don't expect Warner Bros or JKR to change anything because of what I said on the Coli. But I'm expressing my opinion on why I think race was handled poorly here and I might not pay money for another JRK film as a result.

And I'm sorry as much lip service JKR gives to diversity and social justice, she brings that critique on herself. You can't talk all that woke shyt on Twitter every day and then not be judged by the same shyt you criticize everyone else for. It don't work like that. She claims to be woke and for diversity, but she only uses it as a plot device and falls into tired tropes, and I'm glad she's getting ripped for it because you should act like you know something when you don't.

I don’t think that’s a blind spot for her at all. I truly do believe she is as woke as she claims to be. Her problem is she’s making the transition from novel writing to screenwriting and it’s not easy for her. It was easier with part one because there was less to do. She wasn’t trying to cram as much plot and character into the first one as this one. She bit off A LOT more than she could chew and it showed. Either that or this movie was edited down a lot to not make for a 5 or 6 hr experience. That third act info dump is something easier to do in a book than on screen.

She’s got the right ideas but she needs someone to help her hone them for a movie narrative

 

[MartyMcFly]

Zoe the gawdess never disappoints

Yeah and they didn’t do right by her character at all. She was the most interesting character in the whole movie. She had genuine conflict and actual drama going on. She was three dimensional and they made her a sacrifice in the end that ultimately meant nothing. There was no reason for her to do what she did

 

[Deltron]

And then there’s Newt. He’s way too passive and reactive as a character. It’s hard to root for a guy who just lets things happen rather than actively making choices. Yes inaction is a choice but it’s not the right choice for the lead of a story.

probably gonna minimize his roles even more going forward...he's just gonna be a plot device

 

[Bboystyle]

How is junky depp's performance in this?