Faith is nothing more than stupidity

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We live in a Monotheistic, Polytheistic and Idolatry society.

Everyone falls into one of these categories.
 

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"Faith" is expectation you have based on what you've previously seen from something. That sounds exactly like "logic", doesn't it?

It seems like some of you hear the word "faith" and automatically think of one of the satelite definitions of it...

well it sure does seem like you changed around the definition of the word to fit your argument, and what have you seen in life to gain the expectation that god exists?
 

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Nope...i'm giving you the Bible's definition of faith...it's at Hebrews 11:1.



I've already mentioned that in this thread.

you actually haven't given any examples of anything that proves(or even gives the idea) god exists. you're whole argument for god existing seems to be based in the bible which everyone knows was written by man. :manny:

and that hebrews 11:1 doesnt say anything of significance to support your argument, just that faith is believing in something that you hope for that you have no proof of.
 

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and that hebrews 11:1 doesnt say anything of significance to support your argument, just that faith is believing in something that you hope for that you have no proof of.

What translation did you read?
 

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People who don't have faith can't hope to understand it, so don't bother trying.

No, I understand it completely. However, I feel that it's more important that the things I believe are actually or likely to be true. And believing in things because I fear the consequence of not believing or because it makes me feel good or whatever is not a pathway to truth. Believing something despite contradicting evidence usually leads to believing in false things.

we put faith in things everyday, trivializing it by making it an extension of religion is stupid and pointless

No... we don't. Faith in a religious sense is not at all the same as 'faith' how you're using it. When I "use faith", I'm making a reasonable assumption that a claim or position is likely to be true based on past experience or some sort of tangible evidence. Religious faith requires believing claims that either have no demonstrable evidence, or it contradicts things we know to be true. There has never been proof of miracles, and many miracle claims in the bible, for example, have not, and could not happen...outside of the bible. This type of faith is not reasonable.
 

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You don't have faith that the bridge won't fall when you cross it.

You cross it because you have crossed it or have seen others cross it, and you know that the probability of it failing is low. Therefore, you are actually making a subconscious decision based on some form of evidence.

But sometimes the bridge fails:

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You assume you're car is going to start because you are not aware of any issues and it probably started fine the last time.
 

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Couple of suggestions for faith based people.

1. Don't reference the Bible or books of faith as sources for arguments on logic or proof. It's a book that poorly supports your view...that's it. It is full of tales basically, now compare to a science book...shiiid; lets take a field trip mah ninja!

2. Arguing on the logic of faith is not an argument. It is "in this context" an admission to being of childlike mental capacity.

3. Just don't..:noah:
 

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Faith is not stupidity.

YOU personally can't understand believing in something without evidence, but that's your own outlook. Your personal outlook on life isn't what everyone else subscribes to. I've known many people who've been through it all... had the money, the women and had all the other luxuries this world provided them, but they never felt satisfaction until they've put their faith in Jesus. They didn't find satisfaction with all of the riches of the world. They found their fulfillment in their faith. This notion that if you have faith that you are somehow some kind of dunce is an ignorant assumption. I can go on with this argument, but these circular arguments get very tiring.
 

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And let the religion vs non religious wars continue

by the way. I don't think human beings have the capacity to understand "God" or "Creator" in any sense or form what so ever. Especially since we can't get along with people's skin color, religious preference, or even sexual preference. Arguing about whether there is a God or not seems pointless. But please continue.
 

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Faith in a religious sense is not at all the same as 'faith' how you're using it. When I "use faith", I'm making a reasonable assumption that a claim or position is likely to be true based on past experience or some sort of tangible evidence.

You don't have faith that the bridge won't fall when you cross it.

You cross it because you have crossed it or have seen others cross it, and you know that the probability of it failing is low. Therefore, you are actually making a subconscious decision based on some form of evidence.

Now...read these again, and tell me how it's different from what I said....


You have "faith" in something based on its track record.
 

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Arguing about whether there is a God or not seems pointless.

Well, I have to disagree. While I think we don't, and may never be able to know if a god exists, our beliefs influence our behaviors. If I see people making bad decisions based on what I feel are misguided beliefs, then sure, I'm going to try to explain why I think everyone should abandon them.

Taadow said:
Now...read these again, and tell me how it's different from what I said....

I don't think it is different :huh:
 
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