Everything was going as planned until HE happened NBA

[Curtis Nightfish]

x one hundred trillion

 

[O.T.I.S.]

How do you mentally own a guy you barely beat once out of 2 tries BEFORE KD

 

[Gotright]

How do you mentally own a guy you barely beat once out of 3 tries BEFORE KD

3 times?

 

[Killer Instinct]

Let's be real: if LeBron had 7 rings, I highly doubt that most Jordan believers would give him #1 GOAT status.

Of course not. Jordan was simply the superior player.

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

Def fukked up Bron's championships.

Now they goal post moving to put him over all time greats since having more chips than Mike ain't happening

Championships are not a barometer of individual greatness in a TEAM sport

Basketball isn't golf
It isn't tennis

You are not.out there all alone....

 

[Bledswole]

Disagree. 2011 Finals was bad imo.

There's still cats I'm takin over him. Not many. But there are some.

Ok.

Who?

 

[Rekkapryde]

Ok.

Who?

Earvin
Dream
Wilt

Off the top.

 

[HabitualChiller]

Of course not. Jordan was simply the superior player.

LeBron is better than Jordan.

 

[ROFL_GUY]

Lecac

 

[Killer Instinct]

LeBron is better than Jordan.

Never has been. Never will be. Presently or historically.

 

[HabitualChiller]

Never has been. Never will be. Presently or historically.

K

 

[Bledswole]

Earvin
Dream
Wilt

Off the top.

I’ll say Kareem MJ and Magic all got a case over LeBron and that’s it.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

It wasn’t jsut Steph.. ppl give him too much credit. Klay and Draymond and evening Kerr deserve a lot of credit. Contrary to popular belief mark Jackson probably doesn’t get them to the promise land. And klay is just as important and Steph.

It was KD that threw off the balanced. If Kd stays with okc, Kd and west would have probably have a ring and so would harden and cp3 or the spurs get another ring with kawhi.

I wouldn’t be surprise if bron still only has 3 rings if Kd stays in okc. Dude was growing more dependent on his teammates as the years go by.

Don't forget how vital Iggy was too. Without Iggy you would have had LeBron and a bunch of scrubs taking out Steph, Klay, Draymond, and Barnes in 2015.

 

[Rigby.]

GS without KD gives Bron chances to have several finals wins over the best regular season dynasty ever (I think they maintain that status regardless). GS with KD is just unbeatable lol

 

[Professor Emeritus]

If Sabonis came over in 89 he would have fukked up Jordan's titles but yall wanna play dumb.

Lets talk about it

like jordan would have struggled against a cac

MJ couldn't beat Bill Lame-beer and the Pistons in 1989 and 1990, but he would have taken out Sabonis and the Blazers in 1991-1992-1993? Blazers with washed-ass Kevin Duckworth at center were beating Chicago by 13 in the 4th of Game 6 until the Bulls' bench made that big run with MJ sitting, but you don't think replacing an almost worthless Duckworth with a top-3 center would have tipped the scales?

MJ ain't doing nothing to stop a 7'3" 290lb athletic monster with soft hands and a 3pt shot. This is a guy who was playing The Admiral to a standstill in the 1980s, he would have been huge for Portland if the USSR had let him come over before they fukked up his legs. Sabonis was basically a bigger Embiid with Jokic-level passing skills, while 1992 Duckworth was basically Cody Zeller.

This is young sabonis before injuries:




Drexler
Porter
Kersey
Buck
Sabonis

is a much better lineup than:

Isaiah
Dumars
Rodman
Laimbeer
Edwards


Detroit had a good defense but Dumars was basically their only scorer. Isiah was shooting like shyt at that point in his career and Pistons only had 3 players averaging double figures in the series. Portland had a ton of length and athleticism at the wings and a workman rebounder/defender at PF, all they needed was a rim-protecting stopper like Sabonis and their defense would have been monstrous. Then on offense, how would the Bulls have stopped 7'3" Sabonis inside without letting Drexler/Porter/Kersey run wild on the cuts and midrange shots?

Arvydas would have devoured those trash-ass Chicago centers and then dropped dimes to everyone else on the regular. This was washed Sabonis when he finally came in 1995 after all the leg injuries, can you imagine if he gotten here 6 years earlier?