Everyone just gave a pass to the NOI for the hit on Malcolm X huh?

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Blacks in America partaking in Islam has been here for hundreds of years. From some Africans already being Muslim when they came off the slave boats to these shores, to the doctrine/teachings of Noble Drew Ali and the Moorish Science Temple, to the doctrine of WD Fard Muhammed that gave birth to the NOI, to the revamp of the black muslim movement led by Warith Deen in the late 70's.

No i understand it in that sense of the where's and the who's just never the why, not that any other religion is much better but especially in the inner city Islam seems the go to religion
 

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No i understand it in that sense of the where's and the who's just never the why, not that any other religion is much better but especially in the inner city Islam seems the go to religion

Well that goes back to the NOI days where majority of the members were ex drug dealers, murderers, etc. Since Elijah was really the only prominent leader that preached to blacks to "send the cracker to the cemetery" if need be, a lot of us gravitated towards that during the time. And as these followers got old and started having children and grandchildren of their own, the offsprings become in gulf in that, especially during the time of when Warith took over. It's basically how each family passes down their set of believes to the next generations. Plus, a lot of brothers relate to the story of the Prophet Muhammad and find some form of discipline in the religion that they may not get in others. A lot of brothers and sisters use Islam as a crutch to stay on the righteous path although a lot of us fail to do so. That's our downfall because a lot of times, we wanna continue to play the street role and be a Muslim. But in reality, you either have to choose one or the other.
 

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In a 1994 interview, Gabe Pressman asked Shabazz whether Farrakhan "had anything to do" with Malcolm X's death. She replied: "Of course, yes. Nobody kept it a secret. It was a badge of honor. Everybody talked about it, yes."
 

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It's why I don't really rock with Farrakhan like that. When I found this shyt out and found out he was Malcolm's understudy I couldn't fukk wit em. But I could definitely see John Ali being an agent who's job it was to debacle the whole thing. fukked up all around.
 

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It's why I don't really rock with Farrakhan like that. When I found this shyt out and found out he was Malcolm's understudy I couldn't fukk wit em. But I could definitely see John Ali being an agent who's job it was to debacle the whole thing. fukked up all around.

For sure,, the FBIt was buckwild back then. Operating at different protocols depending on each field office.

There is this too:
FBI used mafia capo to find bodies of Ku Klux Klan victims | World news | The Guardian

Where they hired mafia members to "interrogate" KKK members while at the same time trying to bust up the Crime Families.
 

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For sure,, the FBIt was buckwild back then. Operating at different protocols depending on each field office.

There is this too:
FBI used mafia capo to find bodies of Ku Klux Klan victims | World news | The Guardian

Where they hired mafia members to "interrogate" KKK members while at the same time trying to bust up the Crime Families.

J.Edgar Hoover was arguably the dirtiest most criminal cop of them all. I thought the mob truly made it when they helped the Allies during WWII. You know Luch and them was like :win:.
 

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J.Edgar Hoover was arguably the dirtiest most criminal cop of them all. I thought the mob truly made it when they helped the Allies during WWII. You know Luch and them was like :win:.

The Mob ran heavy back in the day. You should make a Mob/Mafia thread. There are a lot of cats here who might not know the history.
 

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lol, I'm not an expert on the mob like that but I know little tidbits here and there cuz that lifestyle is fascinating to me. Might make the thread after work if it ain't been made already.
 

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lol, I'm not an expert on the mob like that but I know little tidbits here and there cuz that lifestyle is fascinating to me. Might make the thread after work if it ain't been made already.

I'll add on it. I've read a lot on it due to my paternal family coming from Sicily, I was fascinated by it for a short stint. Just completely savage, brutal people who were just extremely intelligent in business aspects and extortion.

It's really an American story. Italians, Jews, Irish, and Black crime families.

People always forget that the Jewish dudes bossed up heavy back then.
 

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I'll add on it. I've read a lot on it due to my paternal family coming from Sicily, I was fascinated by it for a short stint. Just completely savage, brutal people who were just extremely intelligent in business aspects and extortion.

It's really an American story. Italians, Jews, Irish, and Black crime families.

People always forget that the Jewish dudes bossed up heavy back then.

Germans too, the streets were way different back then. When people think of the streets now they gotta remember that it's the grandchild of that era. The mob itself has a mystique in the underworld that few if any can boast. Demonic geniuses.
 

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Germans too, the streets were way different back then. When people think of the streets now they gotta remember that it's the grandchild of that era. The mob itself has a mystique in the underworld that few if any can boast. Demonic geniuses.

Oh yeah, to compare any of the street life, or even Mafia, of the present day to back then is ridiculous. Those dudes had politicians, entertainers, judges, police and everything in their back pockets.

Even the Cartels around Central and South America don't have the influence they had back then. The Cartels have much more firepower and money, but not influence IMO.
 

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did you know malcolm was still writing letters to Mr Muhammad copping pleas (no diss to malcolm) after and before he made Hajj. Elijah was upset that his right hand man, national spokesman went dirty on him, but hey, elijah's own sons (akbar and wallace) sided with Malcolm and questioned their pop's quasi doctrine on Islam..there are so many sides and strings that tie up alot of bullshyt that people assume and think they know.
 

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If your going to show that Farrakhan clip, show the FULL footage and not the cropped out clip so you can get the full context of the speech.

















As I've said, a lot of ya'll need to do yall homework and connnect ALL the dots
 
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