"Even Meek Mill Can't Even Comeback From This" 2019 Philadelphia Eagles Season Thread

[gangreen]

Breh

Nelson Agholor has ZERO value...none...finito

shyt...teams may offer a seven round pick If we promise not to call them about offering them Nelson Agholor
1 He isnt very good
2 He makes 9.5 M
3 He isnt very good
4 He is on the last year of his deal
5 He isnt very good

you wanna bring in another old ass DE who is prolly a game away from breaking his leg, rupturing his spleen....tearing his ACL...old muhfukkas break down....
I think we should call Cincy but not for those old bums- I want William Jackson- I doubt they will trade him but worth a phone call

He a throw in.I'm tryna get rid of this nikka. He in the deal is like complementary finger wipes when u order some wings from wingstop.

Dont want him taking a roster spot if u bring in AJ Green.


As for the aging DE question

Im not liking the pressure Barnett, Sweat and Curry are generating. 30 year old Carlos Dunlap is still getting pressure and is a proven 6 foot 6 280 pound body to add to the rotation. Who can pass rush and is good in run defense too.

At this point, Any cornerback short of Patrick Peterson is not worth it to me. We just gotta hold our nose and hope Mills, darby, douglas, jones, maddox and leblanc hold up and/or figure it out and the scheme finally starts to work.

I think adding another pass rush would help the scheme and stop Schwartz from blitzing the linebackers and safeties where mostly bad things have happened.

Our success in 2017 was the pass rush and solid run defense. The pass rush will make the corners better.

 

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

He a throw in.I'm tryna get rid of this nikka. He in the deal is like complementary finger wipes when u order some wings from wingstop.

Dont want him taking a roster spot if u bring in AJ Green.


As for the aging DE question

Im not liking the pressure Barnett, Sweat and Curry are generating. 30 year old Carlos Dunlap is still getting pressure and is a proven 6 foot 6 280 pound body to add to the rotation. Who can get pass rush and is good in run defense too.

At this point, Any cornerback short of Patrick Peterson is not worth it to me. We just gotta hold our nose and hope Mills, darby, douglas, jones, maddox and leblanc hold up and/or figure it out and the scheme finally starts to work.

I think adding another pass rush would help the scheme and stop Schwartz from blitzing the linebackers and safeties where mostly bad things have happened.

Our success in 2017 was the pass rush and solid run defense. The pass rush will make the corners better.

Williams is a really good corner and young, he plays in cincy so he is way under the radar. He is by far better than any cb we have. I am not saying give up a first but i would drop a 2nd rounder on him, i doubt cincy will move him but he is such an upgrade

 

[gangreen]

Williams is a really good corner and young, he plays in cincy so he is way under the radar. He is by far better than any cb we have. I am not saying give up a first but i would drop a 2nd rounder on him, i doubt cincy will move him but he is such an upgrade

Yea, he got alot of potential and has been tested. He can ball.

But Yea, I think in a rebuild, it's not likely yge bengals are gonna deal him. Teams like that are most likely unloading contracts to clear capspace along with getting draft picks.

Hell they would deal Kirkpatrick before him cause Williams is not making any real money and Kirkpatrick is.

But like I said, anything short of Patrick Peterson and previously Ramsey, I'm reluctant to trade high draft capital like a first or second for a less than a certain thing corner.

We won the superbowl with Mills, Darby and Robinson but our strength that year was the d line that was stingy in the run game and rushed the passer to cause turnovers. We weren't blitzing like we are now so the pass rush is the problem.

That Clowney trade would have helped alot especially after we lost Malik Jackson.

I think a solid pass rusher will help with Darby and Mills coming back and is better for Schwartz scheme wise. I think Carlos Dunlap could be had. and AJ Green is a game changer number one receiver already but is even more valuable if DeSean reinjures that abdomen

I think it makes sense

 

[Controversy]

I'm hearing Wentz is getting thrown under the bus again even tho he's been far & away our best & most consistent offensive player

 

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

I'm hearing Wentz is getting thrown under the bus again even tho he's been far & away our best & most consistent offensive player

Clean house...im tired of these dudes running to josina like a hoe

 

[greenvale]

I'm hearing Wentz is getting thrown under the bus again even tho he's been far & away our best & most consistent offensive player

That’s crazy. the problem is 100% coaching

 

[gangreen]

I'm hearing Wentz is getting thrown under the bus again even tho he's been far & away our best & most consistent offensive player

Meh, it's really nothing. Seems like a frustrated player regarding the offensive playcalling more than so Wentz.

Last years anonymous source was more damning.

I think Wentz has been solid and he has been checking it down, alot of throws to running backs than in previous years from him.

I'm starting to think it's someone on defense who doesn't know shyt about anything on offense or at worst an offensive lineman.

 

[Controversy]

If I were a betting man, I'm gonna say Kelce, Lane or Peters

 

[FLORIDA BOI]

Meh, it's really nothing. Seems like a frustrated player regarding the offensive playcalling more than so Wentz.

Last years anonymous source was more damning.

I think Wentz has been solid and he has been checking it down, alot of throws to running backs than in previous years from him.

I'm starting to think it's someone on defense who doesn't know shyt about anything on offense or at worst an offensive lineman.

I keep sayin it Wentz doin too much . c'mon y'all don't disregard what they sayin. Where there's smoke there's fire , offense .

Hit nelson on a 4 yard drag and let him try to get off. Nawl Carson gunnin it into ertz in double coverage . now ertz be bringing the bytches down but damn you live by that you gone die by that. I think thatsbwhat they sayin.

 

[Controversy]

I keep sayin it Wentz doin too much . c'mon y'all don't disregard what they sayin. Where there's smoke there's fire , offense .

Hit nelson on a 4 yard drag and let him try to get off. Nawl Carson gunnin it into ertz in double coverage . now ertz be bringing the bytches down but damn you live by that you gone die by that. I think thatsbwhat they sayin.

hollins nor Agholor can create separation

 

[gangreen]

I keep sayin it Wentz doin too much . c'mon y'all don't disregard what they sayin. Where there's smoke there's fire , offense .

Hit nelson on a 4 yard drag and let him try to get off. Nawl Carson gunnin it into ertz in double coverage . now ertz be bringing the bytches down but damn you live by that you gone die by that. I think thatsbwhat they sayin.

Who is they thi, it seems to be one frustrated player.

I'm not discrediting what u saying but are u watching these games.

Alshon is getting his targets and Ertz is too. Last game, Alshon had 12 targets and Ertz had 9.

I admit they should design playcalls for Agholor because he is trash tracking the football for the deep passes but we have seen he occasionally makes magic underneath with the ball in his hands.

The play calls that are not designed for Nelson underneath is more of an indictment on the offensive playbook and scheme, that's more to do with Pederson and Groh than Wentz.

But He has been checking it down. Sanders has been catching out of the backfield alot. It's the only thing that seems to be working really.

2017 wasnt an aberration and Wentz was thriving in 2017 but I admit Wentz and the offense hasn't been the same since Reich and DeFilippo left.

Overall, I'm tellin ya, Wentz is special.

 

[So UnThotful]

Only person I can think of is Jeffery is talking to Josina

They close, but I don't think he's complaining about it himself. He could be just passing on the info to Josina about another player

And on this subject, Wentz has put this team in position to win the games. I'm fine how's he's played. For those who remember

#GGG

 

[FLORIDA BOI]

Who is they thi, it seems to be one frustrated player.

I'm not discrediting what u saying but are u watching these games.

Alshon is getting his targets and Ertz is too. Last game, Alshon had 12 targets and Ertz had 9.

I admit they should design playcalls for Agholor because he is trash tracking the football for the deep passes but we have seen he occasionally makes magic underneath with the ball in his hands.

The play calls that are not designed for Nelson underneath is more of an indictment on the offensive playbook and scheme, that's more to do with Pederson and Groh than Wentz.

But He has been checking it down. Sanders has been catching out of the backfield alot. It's the only thing that seems to be working really.

2017 wasnt an aberration and Wentz was thriving in 2017 but I admit Wentz and the offense hasn't been the same since Reich and DeFilippo left.

Overall, I'm tellin ya, Wentz is special.

I was just usin that as a example .not sayin that's exactly how it went.bru there's to many contested catches there's rarely anybody running wide open.

I aint sayin Wentz trash by no means but the offense runs different under him. Can't blame Wentz for these drops but I can tell something ain't clickin.

Josina be on point , she didn't make this shyt up. This a good week to fix this shyt .

 

[KingCesar]

Overall, I'm tellin ya, Wentz is special.

When you consider 1) just how bad his supporting cast and defense have been and 2) how much better he’s been at not taking sacks, throwing less INTs, and not fumbling once, there’s a serious argument to be made here that Wentz is playing some of his best football right now. Last I checked (around Week 4 or so), Wentz was something like 10th in the league when it came to Time to Throw, which shows just how much faster he’s been at getting rid of the ball and processing through his reads. He’s been one of the league’s best QBs on 3rd Down. I don’t know how much stock people put into PFF here, but they have Wentz ranked 2nd in their evaluation of him (behind only Wilson, and ahead of Dak, Rodgers, and Brady). And watching the film, I don’t see how anyone blames the offensive struggles on Wentz “doing too much”. He’s been the only consistent part of the offense and unquestionably it’s best player.

It’s only because of Wentz that the Eagles were in position to win in Weeks 2 and 3, and both times the receivers failed to catch near-perfect passes from him. There are several examples in the recent Vikings game of Wentz delivering good passes to Alshon, Hollins, Ertz, etc. and them simply dropping the ball. His most reliable deep threat receiver since DJax went down has been freaking Miles Sanders. Seriously, just look at this:



That’s the team’s #1 receiver, failing to make a play on a perfectly thrown pass that would have tied the game 24-24. Now look at what Thielen and Diggs were doing on the other side. They not only caught passes, they made plays with them after doing so. The one game where Wentz had a receiver capable of doing that – DeSean Jackson, Week 1 against the Redskins – Wentz converted something like 12/13 3rd Downs, threw for 313 yards and three TD passes (two of which were 50+ yards), lead the team to 32 points, and had a 71% completion percentage.

None of the team’s receivers – except for DJax, whose injury has really fukked the offense – can create separation, none of them are viable deep threats, have one of – if not the most – lowest YPC in the NFL (which is why it’d be stupid to check down to Agholor and expect that he’ll turn a 4-yard catch into an 80-yard TD, as if he’s suddenly OBJ), and are one of the leading groups in terms of dropped passes.

 

[FLORIDA BOI]

When you consider 1) just how bad his supporting cast and defense have been and 2) how much better he’s been at not taking sacks, throwing less INTs, and not fumbling once, there’s a serious argument to be made here that Wentz is playing some of his best football right now. Last I checked (around Week 4 or so), Wentz was something like 10th in the league when it came to Time to Throw, which shows just how much faster he’s been at getting rid of the ball and processing through his reads. He’s been one of the league’s best QBs on 3rd Down. I don’t know how much stock people put into PFF here, but they have Wentz ranked 2nd in their evaluation of him (behind only Wilson, and ahead of Dak, Rodgers, and Brady). And watching the film, I don’t see how anyone blames the offensive struggles on Wentz “doing too much”. He’s been the only consistent part of the offense and unquestionably it’s best player.

It’s only because of Wentz that the Eagles were in position to win in Weeks 2 and 3, and both times the receivers failed to catch near-perfect passes from him. There are several examples in the recent Vikings game of Wentz delivering good passes to Alshon, Hollins, Ertz, etc. and them simply dropping the ball. His most reliable deep threat receiver since DJax went down has been freaking Miles Sanders. Seriously, just look at this:



That’s the team’s #1 receiver, failing to make a play on a perfectly thrown pass that would have tied the game 24-24. Now look at what Thielen and Diggs were doing on the other side. They not only caught passes, they made plays with them after doing so. The one game where Wentz had a receiver capable of doing that – DeSean Jackson, Week 1 against the Redskins – Wentz converted something like 12/13 3rd Downs, threw for 313 yards and three TD passes (two of which were 50+ yards), lead the team to 32 points, and had a 71% completion percentage.

None of the team’s receivers – except for DJax, whose injury has really fukked the offense – can create separation, none of them are viable deep threats, have one of – if not the most – lowest YPC in the NFL (which is why it’d be stupid to check down to Agholor and expect that he’ll turn a 4-yard catch into an 80-yard TD, as if he’s suddenly OBJ), and are one of the leading groups in terms of dropped passes.

I see something completely different on that play . why didn't he lead him up the sideline . that's my exact problem right there .

PFF had mahomes a couple weeks ago ranked below DAK


Bru these same WRs are sayin they balled under Foles.matter of fact this is how the offense looked before Foles came in last year too.

I think Wentz has played ok but we talkin bout makin the offense more consistent and reliable . Wentz along with others gotta play better.