Evangelical Christians are beginning to complain that Jesus is too weak, woke, and liberal.

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Let me ask my question another way.

Is there a school of thought or teacher that can be found in history that shares your biblical breakdown or did it originate with you in the 21st century?
learn about Orthodox Christianity for one

and two, when you look at Solomons temple consider it as a mystical interpretation of a temple rather than a literal one. And you will start reading everything differently.

I insinuated to @Koichos that best possible path forward for Israel was to abandon the need for "temple buildings" altogether and to trust in the Ox cart that Aaron fashioned (the infamous golden calf)


counterintutively we are all still cycling through it and it in itself is tied to Egypt. So its the lone bridge to the ancient world :wow:
 

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I watched it start with the Golden Dawn, then grow to the Proud Boys
The "Lets form own clubs", the no blacks allowed boys
The "we hate women" so we yell it out loud boy's
Then blame all of our issues on Muslims and brown boys
The we hate feminists, but naw were not sexists
The I heart Trumps mixed in with the Brexits
Racists, fascists, bigots, hypocrites
The ones with the haircuts that make them look like Hitler kids
The Confederate flag waving, go back to black slaving
The right to own guns and aim them at black babies
The genocide deniers and foreign war suppliers
Ain't never read the Bible but swear their lord is higher
The all lives matter and the home first figures
The ones who call em a kyke and call me a nikka
shyt they'll call my sister a dyke, but that's still my little sister
The ones who bytch quick as I approach em with my fists up
The shyt disturbers in Virginia I'ma really red pill ya
With facts to counteract all the bullshyt y'all deliver
The Gavins, Milo's, can't forget Richard Spencer
4-Chan, Subreddit, cross burning, Klan members
fukking right I said it, this beef I ain't deading
Till I'm suspect number one, the black man you hating
Equipped with my dikk, voice, and education
fukk your ethnostate bytch, ain't no time for segregation
See, we're Jim Crows grandsons, your bytch finds us handsome
We'll take the alt-right hostage and hold your flag for ransome
I said,
We're Jim Crows grandsons, your bytch finds us handsome
We'll take the alt-right hostage and hold your flags for ransome


I wrote that the day after that Virginia bullshyt. Gets realer and realer ever day...
 

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learn about Orthodox Christianity for one

and two, when you look at Solomons temple consider it as a mystical interpretation of a temple rather than a literal one. And you will start reading everything differently.

I insinuated to @Koichos that best possible path forward for Israel was to abandon the need for "temple buildings" altogether and to trust in the Ox cart that Aaron fashioned (the infamous golden calf)


counterintutively we are all still cycling through it and it in itself is tied to Egypt. So its the lone bridge to the ancient world :wow:


good looking out on the link

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According to the Orthodox websites, they believe in the death, burial , and resurrection of Jesus....as well as his 2nd coming, judgment and coming eternal kingdom.

In our exchanges you laughed when I brought up the stripes of Christ cleansing the nation and told me not to fall for the tricks of Herod.


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The GOARCH state they did not create a new doctrine but proclaimed what has always been taught via the Ecumenical Council. "Everything after Genesis is spiritual bread" is not what was taught at the councils.


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The Orthodox Church say the 2nd coming of Christ is not a metaphor or allegory...that it is something that will happen.

When I read your posts, I dont hear that from you. Thats why I asked where your teachings originated from.
 

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good looking out on the link

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MY2xeBM.png

According to the Orthodox websites, they believe in the death, burial , and resurrection of Jesus....as well as his 2nd coming, judgment and coming eternal kingdom.

In our exchanges you laughed when I brought up the stripes of Christ cleansing the nation and told me not to fall for the tricks of Herod.


1OVKeeK.png


The GOARCH state they did not create a new doctrine but proclaimed what has always been taught via the Ecumenical Council. "Everything after Genesis is spiritual bread" is not what was taught at the councils.


7CENwYf.png


The Orthodox Church say the 2nd coming of Christ is not a metaphor or allegory...that it is something that will happen.

When I read your posts, I dont hear that from you. Thats why I asked where your teachings originated from.
maybe you're hearing what you want to hear

indeed the 2nd coming will happen to you

and in the liturgies we regularly mention: "I will celebrate your two comings"...why dont you read the transcript of the Divine Liturgy for yourself

one of the biggest misconceptions about "the day of judgment" is that its a day thats coming. You live in the day of judgment as we speak. The last judgment will be your realization about everything I've said to you.

just dont forget Nyusersatet

God told Noah to fashion an ark (in hebrew - a box or word) that the waters could not overturn it :youngsabo:
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maybe you're hearing what you want to hear

indeed the 2nd coming will happen to you

and in the liturgies we regularly mention: "I will celebrate your two comings"...why dont you read the transcript of the Divine Liturgy for yourself

one of the biggest misconceptions about "the day of judgment" is that its a day thats coming. You live in the day of judgment as we speak. The last judgment will be your realization about everything I've said to you.

just dont forget Nyusersatet

God told Noah to fashion an ark (in hebrew - a box or word) that the waters could not overturn it :youngsabo:
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Im not hearing what I want to hear, im reading the text on the Orthodox website that says "His 2nd coming is not a myth, or allegory, or an empty promise" :pachaha:


Im just trying to figure out why you and me was going back n forth on the topics of

The 2nd coming
Will there be a future kingdom on Earth
Did Jesus die and if so, for what purpose
Herod
etc

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you saying we living in the day of judgment as we speak, the Orthodox website says there will be a future judgement that no man can predict. Also when we go back to the text, specific events will happen to signify that event. That hasn't happened yet.
 

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Im not hearing what I want to hear, im reading the text on the Orthodox website that says "His 2nd coming is not a myth, or allegory, or an empty promise" :pachaha:


Im just trying to figure out why you and me was going back n forth on the topics of

The 2nd coming
Will there be a future kingdom on Earth
Did Jesus die and if so, for what purpose
Herod
etc

:hubie:
see...you dont see the words you OR I say

I keep trying to show you the world that is close to the words but you seem to not notice yet

here is some words from Jesus himself that will lend credence to what I'm saying...

John 3:11

11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

why would he say....we and our? In the Quran the terms we and our are used to a great extent by comparison. There is a true unified reason for this @Sunalmighty this actually is building on what I mentioned to you in the other thread
 

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you saying we living in the day of judgment as we speak, the Orthodox website says there will be a future judgement that no man can predict. Also when we go back to the text, specific events will happen to signify that event. That hasn't happened yet.
read what I said to you again, but slowly

The last judgment will be your realization about everything I've said to you.

The Gospel According to Mark 3:13-21​

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At that time, Jesus went up on the mountain, and called to him those whom he desired; and they came to him. And he appointed twelve, to be with him, and to be sent out to preach and have authority to cast out demons: Simon whom he surnamed Peter; James the son of Zebedee and John the brother of James, whom he surnamed Boanerges, that is, sons of thunder; Andrew and Philip and Bartholomew, and Matthew, and Thomas, and James the son of Alphaios, and Thaddaios, and Simon the Cananaean, and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him. Then he went home; and the crowd came together again, so that they could not even eat. And when his family heard it, they went out to seize him, for people were saying, "He is beside himself."
 

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see...you dont see the words you OR I say

I keep trying to show you the world that is close to the words but you seem to not notice yet

here is some words from Jesus himself that will lend credence to what I'm saying...

John 3:11



why would he say....we and our? In the Quran the terms we and our are used to a great extent by comparison. There is a true unified reason for this @Sunalmighty this actually is building on what I mentioned to you in the other thread

The "we" in this context can be interpreted in different ways, some scholars say Jesus is speaking for his apostles since the story starts off with Nicodemus sneaking off in the middle of the night to learn from Christ. He couldn't do it in the day because he was a public Pharisee.

v 13 Christ says he will be lifted up the same way Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness to heal Israel.

If I remember correctly you have an issue with both those events.
 
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The "we" in this context can be interpreted in different ways, some scholars say Jesus is speaking for his apostles since the story starts off with Nicodemus sneaking off in the middle of the night to learn from Christ. He couldn't do it in the day because he was a public Pharisee.

v 13 Christ says he will be lifted up the same way Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness to heal Israel.

If I remember correctly you have an issue with both those events.
i think both events have more than one interpretation

remember...if Gods word is eternal...what are the ramifications of that?

Isaiah 40:8

8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

now while I do subscribe to Orthodox thinking (hesychasm and palamism) I am not interested in becoming "Like God" the mistake of Eve and the serpent in the garden...

there is power in the repetition of earnest prayer
 

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You're going to have to breakdown your reasoning for citing Mark 3. Earlier in the thread you told @Chrishaune demonic theology was a greek invention, but Christ is giving the apostles the ability to heal and cast out demons in v15.

Sidenote: David played the harp to rid Saul of evil spirits that plagued him. The concept of ridding evil spirits/demons goes back to the Tanakh. (1 Samuel 16:14-23)
 
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i think both events have more than one interpretation

remember...if Gods word is eternal...what are the ramifications of that?

Isaiah 40:8



now while I do subscribe to Orthodox thinking (hesychasm and palamism) I am not interested in becoming "Like God" the mistake of Eve and the serpent in the garden...

there is power in the repetition of earnest prayer

why dont you want to be "like god" when you were made in the image of him?

Psalm 82:6​

6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.​


If Gods word is eternal, shouldn't this statement be as well?
 
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You're going to have to breakdown your reasoning for citing Mark 3. Earlier in the thread you told @Chrishaune demonic theology was a greek invention, but Christ is giving the apostles the ability to heal and cast out demons in v15.

Sidenote: David played the harp to rid Saul of evil spirits that plagued him. The concept of ridding evil spirits/demons goes back to the Tanakh. (1 Samuel 16:14-23)
well before the time of Jesus greeks believed in Asklepios as a divine healer and teacher of mysteries

furthermore the Greeks had obviously a long standing series of beliefs that goes back to Arcadia

just remember in greek a "Daemon" is an external voice that seems to repeat itself. Creating bodies for them and letting your imagination go crazy is the extra that I am warning against.
 
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