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Important video that's very very relevant to this thread and should be in the OP
learn about Orthodox Christianity for oneLet me ask my question another way.
Is there a school of thought or teacher that can be found in history that shares your biblical breakdown or did it originate with you in the 21st century?
learn about Orthodox Christianity for one
Home - Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America - Orthodox Church
Orthodox Christianity is a communion of self governing Churches, united by a common faith and spirituality. The Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America, headquartered in New York City, is an Eparchy of the Ecumenical Patriarchate. The mission of the Archdiocese is to proclaim the Gospel of Christ...goarch.org
and two, when you look at Solomons temple consider it as a mystical interpretation of a temple rather than a literal one. And you will start reading everything differently.
I insinuated to @Koichos that best possible path forward for Israel was to abandon the need for "temple buildings" altogether and to trust in the Ox cart that Aaron fashioned (the infamous golden calf)
counterintutively we are all still cycling through it and it in itself is tied to Egypt. So its the lone bridge to the ancient world
maybe you're hearing what you want to heargood looking out on the link
According to the Orthodox websites, they believe in the death, burial , and resurrection of Jesus....as well as his 2nd coming, judgment and coming eternal kingdom.
In our exchanges you laughed when I brought up the stripes of Christ cleansing the nation and told me not to fall for the tricks of Herod.
The GOARCH state they did not create a new doctrine but proclaimed what has always been taught via the Ecumenical Council. "Everything after Genesis is spiritual bread" is not what was taught at the councils.
The Orthodox Church say the 2nd coming of Christ is not a metaphor or allegory...that it is something that will happen.
When I read your posts, I dont hear that from you. Thats why I asked where your teachings originated from.
maybe you're hearing what you want to hear
indeed the 2nd coming will happen to you
and in the liturgies we regularly mention: "I will celebrate your two comings"...why dont you read the transcript of the Divine Liturgy for yourself
The Divine Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom - Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America - Orthodox Church
Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostomoswww.goarch.org
one of the biggest misconceptions about "the day of judgment" is that its a day thats coming. You live in the day of judgment as we speak. The last judgment will be your realization about everything I've said to you.
just dont forget Nyusersatet
God told Noah to fashion an ark (in hebrew - a box or word) that the waters could not overturn it
Hebrew Concordance: tê·ḇaṯ -- 2 Occurrences
biblehub.com
see...you dont see the words you OR I sayIm not hearing what I want to hear, im reading the text on the Orthodox website that says "His 2nd coming is not a myth, or allegory, or an empty promise"
Im just trying to figure out why you and me was going back n forth on the topics of
The 2nd coming
Will there be a future kingdom on Earth
Did Jesus die and if so, for what purpose
Herod
etc
11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
read what I said to you again, but slowly*edit
you saying we living in the day of judgment as we speak, the Orthodox website says there will be a future judgement that no man can predict. Also when we go back to the text, specific events will happen to signify that event. That hasn't happened yet.
The last judgment will be your realization about everything I've said to you.
At that time, Jesus went up on the mountain, and called to him those whom he desired; and they came to him. And he appointed twelve, to be with him, and to be sent out to preach and have authority to cast out demons: Simon whom he surnamed Peter; James the son of Zebedee and John the brother of James, whom he surnamed Boanerges, that is, sons of thunder; Andrew and Philip and Bartholomew, and Matthew, and Thomas, and James the son of Alphaios, and Thaddaios, and Simon the Cananaean, and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him. Then he went home; and the crowd came together again, so that they could not even eat. And when his family heard it, they went out to seize him, for people were saying, "He is beside himself."
see...you dont see the words you OR I say
I keep trying to show you the world that is close to the words but you seem to not notice yet
here is some words from Jesus himself that will lend credence to what I'm saying...
John 3:11
why would he say....we and our? In the Quran the terms we and our are used to a great extent by comparison. There is a true unified reason for this @Sunalmighty this actually is building on what I mentioned to you in the other thread
Surah Al-Baqarah - 155 - Quran.com
We will certainly test you with a touch of fear and famine and loss of property, life, and crops. Give good news to those who patiently endure—quran.com
i think both events have more than one interpretationThe "we" in this context can be interpreted in different ways, some scholars say Jesus is speaking for his apostles since the story starts off with Nicodemus sneaking off in the middle of the night to learn from Christ. He couldn't do it in the day because he was a public Pharisee.
v 13 Christ says he will be lifted up the same way Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness to heal Israel.
If I remember correctly you have an issue with both those events.
8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.
i think both events have more than one interpretation
remember...if Gods word is eternal...what are the ramifications of that?
Isaiah 40:8
now while I do subscribe to Orthodox thinking (hesychasm and palamism) I am not interested in becoming "Like God" the mistake of Eve and the serpent in the garden...
there is power in the repetition of earnest prayer
well before the time of Jesus greeks believed in Asklepios as a divine healer and teacher of mysteriesYou're going to have to breakdown your reasoning for citing Mark 3. Earlier in the thread you told @Chrishaune demonic theology was a greek invention, but Christ is giving the apostles the ability to heal and cast out demons in v15.
Sidenote: David played the harp to rid Saul of evil spirits that plagued him. The concept of ridding evil spirits/demons goes back to the Tanakh. (1 Samuel 16:14-23)