European Soccer Clubs create new league

Dorian Breh

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This is starting to feel like the coup on Hitler that fell by the wayside.



So all the stars should be on a few teams?

The stars should be on whatever teams gonna pay the most for they services :unimpressed:

Explain why its like that in every job from trading stocks to acting in movies to building fighter jets but not in American sports :jbhmm:
 

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The stars should be on whatever teams gonna pay the most for they services :unimpressed:

Explain why its like that in every job from trading stocks to acting in movies to building fighter jets but not in American sports :jbhmm:

So should there even be small market teams?
 

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So should there even be small market teams?

For sure.

In fact there should be more of them!

Off top should be a team in Seattle, Tampa, Vegas, Pittsburgh, Austin, St Louis, Baltimore, San Diego, anywhere that they want em.

Maybe 60 is too many but 50 seems reasonable, then split them into a Premier league plus whatever you wanna call the losers league.

Like in England most big market teams would be pretty secure in the top league a big part of the reason for that would be the threat of relegation and losing the premier league TV contracts and advertising revenue.
 

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For sure.

In fact there should be more of them!

Off top should be a team in Seattle, Tampa, Vegas, Pittsburgh, Austin, St Louis, Baltimore, San Diego, anywhere that they want em.

Maybe 60 is too many but 50 seems reasonable, then split them into a Premier league plus whatever you wanna call the losers league.

Like in England most big market teams would be pretty secure in the top league a big part of the reason for that would be the threat of relegation and losing the premier league TV contracts and advertising revenue.

Americans are different. They won't attend if they don't think they'll have a chance.
 

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There's no competition for the Big soccer/football leagues in Europe though. They make the law of the land because that's all there is on the big pro level. They're not fighting behemoths like NFL, MLB, NBA, College Football, NHL for consumers dollars and viewership. I hate tanking and other limitations just like the next guy but pro/rel really works if there's only one or two pro sports leagues in a country. Look at the Coli and see how we can diss the NFL one minute or diss the NBA the next because we have other sports to fall back on and prefer one over the other. Can't truly diss the American locked pro league system when we have the plethora of choices that we have.

This is a bit of a disengenous argument though. The PL still has to fight for viewers across the globe and internet. Their competition is never just limited to their country. It's not even limited to sports. They also have to battle Netflix and Disney+ for the next generation of fans. The options that every has isn't limited to just sports anymore.

For me, Pro/Rel is just a mechanism to ensure owners aren't just collecting checks and sitting on their hands, but there are zero permanent mechanisms from preventing a team from pulling another Philly or the Sterling Clippers or the current Timberwolves where they clearly haven't been trying for multiple years. That's just bad business and the NBA commissioner deserves to be shyt on for letting them get away with it and probably why they've lost a ton of fans. At least put something in place to prevent a purposefully losing team from making bank just by existing in a league with a good TV deal and collecting profit sharing. The NFL has a system that has at least manufactured parity to the point that only the Jets are still somehow fukking it up.
 

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Lol man what

this shyt really got y’all thinkin the European football system is fair and balanced wow

nothing to do with that but everything to do with how billionaires over here have no checks & balances on how they run their teams

owners get to bullshyt for years and still make a profit/don't face demotion for a poor job
 

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This is a bit of a disengenous argument though. The PL still has to fight for viewers across the globe and internet. Their competition is never just limited to their country. It's not even limited to sports. They also have to battle Netflix and Disney+ for the next generation of fans. The options that every has isn't limited to just sports anymore.

For me, Pro/Rel is just a mechanism to ensure owners aren't just collecting checks and sitting on their hands, but there are zero permanent mechanisms from preventing a team from pulling another Philly or the Sterling Clippers or the current Timberwolves where they clearly haven't been trying for multiple years. That's just bad business and the NBA commissioner deserves to be shyt on for letting them get away with it and probably why they've lost a ton of fans. At least put something in place to prevent a purposefully losing team from making bank just by existing in a league with a good TV deal and collecting profit sharing. The NFL has a system that has at least manufactured parity to the point that only the Jets are still somehow fukking it up.
I'm not even against Pro/Rel tbh but their system isn't all that great as most of the teams are poor, cash strapped, in debt, and there's a huge gap between the haves and the have nots way worse than the American way of doing things. So big is the gap that the "top dogs" wanted to split from the lesser clubs to form a Super League. Lets face facts, they'll always be shyt teams no matter what. There's no such thing as a good team without there being a bad team. Imo teams like the Timberwolves have been trying, the Kings have been trying. They just keep striking out in one way or the other. The lesser franchises in MLB are ten times worse. They literally dump players or keep their salaries to the lowest point possible. But the way the game is set up these days they can still win games and make the postseason like the Rays do. American leagues, mostly the NBA, is fighting for viewers worldwide as well and are up against streaming television just like the next guy. I've been to Europe & South America a couple of times and it was a different world from my point of view when there's no football, basketball, or baseball being discussed. Soccer/football runs the sporting world over there. That being the only big game in town and country definitely plays a part.
 
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